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President Trump has been steadfastly assuring the world that the United States government does not wish to start the war it has already started by assassinating Iran’s top general.
“We are a peace-loving nation and my administration remains firmly committed to establishing peace and harmony among the nations in the world,” Trump said in a speech at his luxury Mar-a-Lago getaway on Friday. “We do not seek war, we do not seek nation-building, we do not seek regime change, but as president I will never hesitate to defend the safety of the American people.”
“We took action last night to stop a war. We did not take action to start a war,” the president added.
To be clear, in no way is any part of this a thing. Assassinating a nation’s most senior military official, and then claiming that you do not wish to start a war with that nation, is not a thing.
America is at war with Iran currently. What that war will end up looking like is anyone’s guess right now, but there is no question that a war has been initiated. If any nation had assassinated a top US general via airstrike and then openly admitted to it, the US would immediately be at war with that nation. Without question. An extreme military retaliation would be in the works within minutes of the announcement, and the entire political/media class would fully support that retaliation in whatever form it took.
This may come as a surprise to some Americans, but that same principle holds true for other nations as well.
“His departure to God does not end his path or his mission, but a forceful revenge awaits the criminals who have his blood and the blood of the other martyrs last night on their hands,” Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said in a statement on Friday.
And, I mean, of course. Of course “forceful revenge” from Iran is in the mail. Only by the most bizarre American exceptionalist mental contortions could this not be blindingly obvious. The question isn’t if Iran will retaliate with extreme force, but when and where. Nobody with any functioning matter between their ears would expect anything else.
We’re at war with Iran. It’s not a potentiality any more. It just happened. Adjust your frame of reference accordingly
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) January 3, 2020
And of course the US government is now spouting completely unsubstantiated claims about General Qassem Soleimani, and of course the mass media are uncritically repeating those claims as fact, and of course the propagandized masses are regurgitating what their perception management screens have told them to believe. Trump administration officials are claiming without any evidence at all that Soleimani was plotting “imminent attacks on American diplomats and military personnel”, even going so far as trying to marry him to the 9/11 attacks and a host of other unsubstantiated excuses.
Anyone who believes any of this is a brainwashed imbecile. Because of the US government’s extensive history of lying to manufacture support for preexisting military agendas, the only sane response to unsubstantiated US government claims about targeted nations is absolute skepticism. That skepticism should remain in place until mountains of independently verifiable proof of the claims made has been provided. This is the only acceptable level of evidence that critical thinking permits in a post-Iraq invasion world.
This should be extremely obvious to everyone. The fact that it isn’t is the result of generations of increasingly sophisticated propaganda manipulating the way people think about war, what it is, and how it works. My social media notifications are currently flooded with Trump supporters assuring me that Soleimani was a “bad guy” and Trump is therefore a “good guy”, and that assassinating the top military official of a sovereign nation is a perfectly sane and acceptable thing for a government to do.
“I Oppose Interventionism, But-” But Nothing. Stop Being A Pro Bono CIA Propagandist.
Wrote this last year about apologists for Trump’s warmongering, and it applies equally to the “but Soleimani was a BAD GUY!” propaganda line they’re regurgitating today.https://t.co/GICxN6pzVW
— Caitlin Johnstone ⏳ (@caitoz) January 4, 2020
Don’t do this. Don’t advance war propaganda narratives for the US government.
Those who spread war propaganda are participating in that war just as much as those who actually go and fight in it, only they’re playing a far safer, far more cowardly, and far more dishonest role. A man who flies to Iran and murders Iranians with firearms is at least engaging in the war in a way that he will have to grapple with existentially for the rest of his life. A man who regurgitates Fox News propaganda on Twitter will then eat a pizza, have a wank, go to bed and sleep like a baby. But they both facilitated mass murder based on lies and American supremacist imperialism.
The war that Trump has started must be opposed forcefully and aggressively. Do everything you can to wake people up to what’s going on. This could get very, very ugly.
I’m going to keep following this important story and publishing regular updates as it unfolds. I encourage everyone else to pay close attention to it as well. Trump’s war with Iran should be front and center for everyone who cares about humanity.
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361 Comments on "“We Do Not Seek War,” Says President Who Just Started A War"
Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 12:47 pm
“US Slams Russia, China For Blocking UN Statement On Baghdad Embassy Attack”
https://tinyurl.com/yg7dkajo zero hedge
“More international fall out after the US targeted assassination of Gen. Qasem Soleimani— and in a worrisome for Washington — China and Russia once again find themselves allies in thwarting US plans.”
“He [Lavrov] said that the actions of a UN member state to eliminate officials of another UN member state on the territory of a third sovereign state “flagrantly violate the principles of international law and deserve condemnation.””
“Similarly China has stood against Washington’s unilateral military action, with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi saying the US must not “abuse force” and instead pursue mutual dialogue.”
“The dangerous US military operation violates the basic norms of international relations and will aggravate regional tensions and turbulence,” Wang told Javad Zarif in a phone call days ago.”
“Diplomatically speaking, the US faces an uphill battle on the UN National Security Council, considering its already provoked the ire of two of its formidable members, who increasingly find themselves in close cooperation blocking US initiatives.”
Anonymouse on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 1:00 pm
Exceptionalturd dumbass says….
“Other than military intervention against an unjust and illegal occupying force hell bent on destabilizing the entire region”
You just described the uNited Snakes (and jewsland) to a tee , RoFLMAO! Yes, ‘you’ are the bad guys. Always have been…..
What a dumbass!!
JuanP on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 1:15 pm
Great comment Anon. Pass the popcorn
JuanP on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 1:17 pm
Full woke kick ass comment. Pass the popcorn
JuanP on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 1:19 pm
What a fucking great day to jab Amerkans. They are going down. Long live Russia and China
Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 1:35 pm
Bullys that keep on bullying after their noses have been bloodied, always end up getting beaten to a pulp. We need to learn how to get along with the other kids in the sandbox.
Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 2:21 pm
Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 1:35 pm
Fake comment. I never said that. I know all about bullying, so, the only reason I would say something stupid like that, is because juanP is trying to imply I am a stupid bully. Or Something like that.
Please ban stupid.
Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 2:34 pm
“US Army Tells Iraq It Is Preparing To “Move Out” Out Of “Respect For Sovereignty””
https://tinyurl.com/yg26gg9c zero hedge
“As it turns out, President Trump’s decision to kill Iranian General and revolutionary icon Qasem Suleimani – an attack that millions of Trump’s liberal critics warned could risk starting WWIII – might have given the US exactly the cover it needs to pull out of Iraq, once and for all.“
“Ending the US troop presence in Iraq has been a longtime goal of non-interventionists like Ron Paul and his son, Rand.”
“Though, even without troops in Iraq, the US will still have plenty of elbow room to bully Iran.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/USBASE.jpg?itok=-V6fnyLy
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 2:55 pm
Welcome to the identitarian 21st century:
India is now officially a Hindu state. 200 million muslims no longer exist.
https://www.spiegel.de/plus/indien-premier-narendra-modi-ein-nationalist-und-seine-200-millionen-feinde-a-00000000-0002-0001-0000-000168763995
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 2:59 pm
German news confirms that the US announced it will withdraw from Iraq.
Perhaps they can turn one of the largest US embassies world-wide in a mosque. The name “Green zone” can be kept.
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 3:14 pm
German 21:45 news: Germany will begin withdrawing from Iraq TONIGHT.
They probably want to avoid embarrassing Saigon-chopper scenes.
So and now another episode of “das boot”.
No, not the trunk of your klunker, you idiot.lol
DerHundistLos on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 3:14 pm
Right, Davy. We heard the exact same crap with respect to Afghanistan. “Peace talks with the Afghanistan guerillas will give Trump the cover he needs to withdraw all US troops.”
Instead, President Dump INCREASED US troop numbers.
DerHundistLos on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 3:20 pm
Bad news, Davy. Looks like your Zero Hedge article about the brilliant mind of Trump using the assassination as cover to withdraw US troops is pure BS. What else is new with Trump, Liar in Chief
(AP) The US has no plans to pull out of Iraq, Defense Secretary Mark Esper told reporters after a letter to the government in Baghdad informing them of redeployment plans was published online.
“There’s been no decision to leave Iraq. Period,” Esper told reporters at the Pentagon on Monday, in what appears to have been an off-camera briefing.
Anonymouse on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 3:26 pm
What? Pure BS you say? From Delusional Davy? Say it isnt so. From Kloggjude, certainly that would come as no surprise, but from widdle Daby?
What a shocker…
Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 3:27 pm
Oops, looks like the killings will continue until morale improves after all……
LMFAO!
“Amphibious Assault Ship Bataan With 2,000 Marines On Board Is Headed Toward Iraq”
https://tinyurl.com/ye2v3svx zero hedge
“The Iraqi parliament voted on Sunday to expel US troops out of the country but so far, it appears that nobody in the US got the memo. In fact quite the contrary.”
“According to the US Naval Institute, amid rising tensions with Iran, the US Navy is scrapping an exercise with Morocco as it redirects the amphibious assault ship USS Bataan (LHD-5) and embarked 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit with roughly 2,000 marines on board to the Middle East, a defense official confirmed to USNI news.”
“The Marines will join soldiers from the Fort Bragg, N.C.-based 82nd Airborne who have been sent to Iraq as a security measure following the U.S. operation that killed a top Iranian military leader on Thursday. In total when the 5,000 sailors and marines from the Bataan arrive in Iraq, the US will have added roughly 10,000 troops in Iraq in the last week.”
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 3:34 pm
The upcoming confrontation could get nuclear soon:
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/477558-iran-trump-nuclear-fordow/
“Iran holds all the cards in coming Middle East conflict with US – unless Trump is ready to drop a tactical NUKE”
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 3:39 pm
Conflicting signals regarding alleged US withdrawal from Iraq:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7858201/US-led-military-coalition-says-WITHDRAW-Iraq-parliament-voted-troops-leave.html
“BREAKING NEWS: Defense secretary says U.S. troops are NOT withdrawing from Iraq despite general’s letter to the contrary after country’s parliament voted for anti-ISIS troops to leave in wake of Qassem Soleimani’s death”
fwsmj on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 3:50 pm
Y whitey supertard trump fired Navy secretary who is responisble for muzzie burial at sea as a muzzie but it’s not a muzzie. Now we risk lives to retrieve dead muzzie and handled burial ceremnony to Dutch Navy? Our navy is so weak it can no longer equipped to perform ceremonial burial as muzzie of dead muzzie? this is serious gap in our defnese capability.
petition change.org to reinstate whitey supertard NAVYsecretary now
thank you this post has been funded and supported by supertard madkat
Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 3:53 pm
Who the fuck do they think they are telling us to get are military out of their country?
stupid sand niggers
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 3:58 pm
Was Trump’s motivation “wag the dog”, to distract attention from the impeachment circus?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/06/us-allies-trump-suleimani-killing-reaction-response
“US allies distance themselves from Trump decision to assassinate Suleimani”
full woke supremacist muzzie jerk maximum low english you know the difference between a burger and a burger that has strength a real burger would take all over all the spaces in your mouth and you just go hmm umm dayme dayme daymn dayme my man on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 4:00 pm
i really miss little big brother joe. i appointed him supertard and his title is “the lover” (of muzzies). i want to say happy new year to supertard joe and may his new year be joyful, wonderous, full of wealth, health, and most importantly muzzies free.
i apologize to supertard rock, i wish he comes back.
for my little big brother joe supertard i wish him peace (not the kind of peace wasa alikum then turn around and stab him), no i wish him real peace as safety and long life in the company of young luscious women amen
may (((supremetard))) watch over my little big brother joe supertard always
joe on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 4:03 pm
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 11:37 am
Brave but rare US dissident Paul Craig Roberts: “Putin’s Hour Is at Hand, He Has No Choice But to Block Any US/Israeli Attack on Iran”
My guess is he will not have to block anything. Clearly the US IS going to take all Iranian nuclear facilities but it must happen when the fall out will cover China, not Israel. Now that all foreign forces have been ordered out of Iraq, there is no supply line to Syria. Stabbing the Kurds in the back was a MISTAKE. Putin will have to take losing its investment in Irans nuclear power stations on the chin. Russia is weeks away from securing European gas supply forever. Money in what drives the US, energy money. Supporting Iran now will cause Germany to have to quit Nordstream 2. Russia can cut Europe off forever from the US if it just holds it nerve.
REAL Green on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 4:08 pm
In this 2011 video, Donald Trump predicted a ‘weak and ineffective’ President Obama would attack Iran in order to win a second term.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/videos/trump-predicted-obama-would-attack-iran-to-get-elected/vi-BBYA6oX
joe on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 4:10 pm
my mistake, iraqi resolution is non binding. However it may not be long until foreign forces leave on their own (all except US that is).
Kevin Cobley on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 4:55 pm
The Saudi’s bombed New York, there was zero retaliation.
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 5:19 pm
“The Saudi’s bombed New York, there was zero retaliation.”
Bombing Israel, the true culpritt, is traditionally a bridge too far for the Americans.
https://youtu.be/sw4UDcmOqp4
Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 5:41 pm
The Saudis bombed New York as a trick to get America riled up for wars in the Middle East. Most Americans don’t even no where the ME is. Never mind the differences between A-rab and Eye-ran. Besides they all live in the dessert and ride camels and wear turbins anyways.
Duncan Idaho on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 5:41 pm
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper comes to the job as a former aerospace lobbyist
Lets be honest:
The People Around Trump Are Totally Unqualified to Stop the Iran Crisis
(even if they were smart enough to want it)
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 5:52 pm
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran!
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 5:56 pm
Mumbai protest: Gateway Of India
Protest are breaking out everywhere!
Worldwide workers revolution of the proliferate!
makati1 on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 6:05 pm
If anyone thinks that the US can use “tactical nukes”, and get away with it, you better think again. Do you think Iran would not destroy the ME (Saudi) oil fields if that happens? I see large oily black clouds over the Saudi oil fields as all the wells are on fire. Remember the Kuwaiti fiasco? Iran can bomb the ME back into the stone age without nukes. Their missiles easily cover all of the ME as far as Italy. For you geography challenged Amerikans, that is 2,000 miles from Iran.
BTW: the wind pattern today would put any fallout from Iran over Saudi Arabia. Oops!
Sissyfuss on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 6:10 pm
“Bolton agrees to testify in the Senate, however his mustache will plead the Fifth.”
Attn: Outcast Searcher on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 7:49 pm
@ Outcast Searcher
A family member, friend, or good samaritan should drop a hit of ‘cid in your food or drink. It would do wonders for getting the stick stuck up your arse out.
On a personal note, I prefer window pane acid.
JuanP is stupid on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 8:29 pm
stupid
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full woke supremacist muzzie jerk maximum low english you know the difference between a burger and a burger that has strength a real burger would take all over all the spaces in your mouth and you just go hmm umm dayme dayme daymn dayme my man said i really miss little big brother joe. i appointed…
Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 9:10 pm
@Attn: Outcast Searcher
The last time I dropped window pane was back in the early eightys. They don’t make it any more.
stupid
JuanP is stupid is stupid on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 9:16 pm
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Davy / REAL GREEN on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 9:26 pm
I would give up my left nut and sac for either a brief cornholin’ or a brisk cornhuskin’- either or- penetrators choice.
I like being bottom.
REAL Green is REAL stupid on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 9:28 pm
Per REAL Green:
“I would give up my left nut and sac for either a brief cornholin’ or a brisk cornhuskin’- either or- penetrators choice.”
“I like being bottom.”
JuanP is stupid is stupid is stupid on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 9:54 pm
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Davy on Tue, 7th Jan 2020 12:12 am
“For you geography challenged Amerikans, that is 2,000 miles from Iran.”
All the distances over there are in kilometers makato. I should know cause I’ve been in Italy. I bet you’ve never even been there.
dumbass
Cloggie on Tue, 7th Jan 2020 1:05 am
You thought the B737 Max was bad?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7857793/Never-threaten-Iranian-nation-Rouhani-tells-Trump.html
“Is Iran threatening another Lockerbie? President Rouhani makes sinister veiled reference to 1988 Pan Am bombing that killed 270 people as incredible photos show Qassem Soleimani’s funeral from space”
Cloggie on Tue, 7th Jan 2020 1:39 am
Trump about to kill Tesla too:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/01/eric-peters/orange-man-lobs-one-at-tesla/
…leaving the e-car business to the Europeans, who are already the largest regular car builders in the world, with Japan #2 and Anglos and Chinese nowhere to be seen
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2019/08/18/e-vehicles-2025-and-the-winner-is-volkswagen/
“E-Vehicles 2025 – and the Winner is… Volkswagen!”
Thanks Donnie! Americans prefer to drive in regular BMWs, Mercs, Audis and VWs rather than libtard Tesla’s, that’s ok.
/snikker
Cloggie on Tue, 7th Jan 2020 2:07 am
Ah the Japanese! The Germans of Asia:
https://cleantechnica.com/2020/01/06/sony-shocks-announces-electric-car/
“Sony Shocks — Announces Electric Car”
Bye-bye walkman.lol!
makati1 on Tue, 7th Jan 2020 2:22 am
The mile is used only in: Liberia, Myanmar, the United Kingdom and the United States. If I put it in kilometers, the response of Amerikans would be: “DUH!
WHAT?
makati1 on Tue, 7th Jan 2020 2:23 am
Too little, too late Cloggie.
Cloggie on Tue, 7th Jan 2020 2:27 am
More details about the Sony e-car:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2020/01/07/bye-bye-walkman-sony-announces-electric-car/
“Bye-bye Walkman – Sony Announces Electric Car”
Cloggie on Tue, 7th Jan 2020 2:39 am
More autonomous driving advances;
https://cleantechnica.com/2020/01/06/bosch-says-it-has-lidar-sensors-ready-to-go-but-offers-few-details/
“Bosch Says It Has Lidar Sensors Ready To Go, But Offers Few Details”
Lidar is car radar, an essential element of autonomous driving. While Australia is on fire, the possibility of destroying the car economy without destroying the economy itself, looms at the horizon.
The first of them is cost. Lidar units that can see up to 200 meters ahead and have good horizontal and vertical resolution can cost $10,000 or more. Some early self-driving systems like the ones under development by Uber and Waymo use as many as 6 Lidar units. It’s easy to understand why customers might be reluctant to shell out $60,000 extra just to buy a car that drives itself.
Right. Customers no, but companies yes… if they can put a 60k car on the road that drives all the time and has 4-7 paying customers on board. This technology has the potential to offer an alternative to every biped owning a planet destroying car. Instead private car ownership can now be phased out and replaced by a corporate owned national car system of autonomous cars where every existing road is going to be a quasi-railroad, where cities are car-free and buses bring you from the city to the ring-road around the city and platforms where you can embark on a autonomous driving car.
All we need to make that vision reality is to have Donnie to blow up the Middle East for us and trigger a global car reset that no peace-time politician has the power to implement, just on the basis of reason alone (apart from Europe of course).
JuanP is stupid on Tue, 7th Jan 2020 3:53 am
Nightly stupid so mindlessly impressive.
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Davy on Tue, 7th Jan 2020 3:58 am
“Lidar is car radar, an essential element of autonomous driving… It’s easy to understand why customers might be reluctant to shell out $60,000 extra just to buy a car that drives itself.”
It is likely in the cards that automobiles themselves will be too expensive for many at some point so self driving cars are just a toy of the techie rich and delusional. There are lots of modern toys slated for obsolescence as the collapse process gains speed.
Davy on Tue, 7th Jan 2020 4:06 am
“Trump about to kill Tesla too: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/01/eric-peters/orange-man-lobs-one-at-tesla/ leaving the e-car business to the Europeans, who are already the largest regular car builders in the world, with Japan #2 and Anglos and Chinese nowhere to be seen”
EV’s are vital but not the future. They do not scale up at a time when civilization is scaling down. They will fill a niche that is necessary. Electric power has many benefits but it does not replace fossil fuel transport KW=KW this is because all the other support infrastructure that come with electric vehicles. The lifecycle cost doesn’t pencil out well. One wonders how long such huge subsidies can be maintained when so much in the new renewable world is subsidized. Yea, fossil fuels are subsidized too but they are not being built out new and with quantities that will have to be huge to be a transition paradigm.