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President Trump has been steadfastly assuring the world that the United States government does not wish to start the war it has already started by assassinating Iran’s top general.
“We are a peace-loving nation and my administration remains firmly committed to establishing peace and harmony among the nations in the world,” Trump said in a speech at his luxury Mar-a-Lago getaway on Friday. “We do not seek war, we do not seek nation-building, we do not seek regime change, but as president I will never hesitate to defend the safety of the American people.”
“We took action last night to stop a war. We did not take action to start a war,” the president added.
To be clear, in no way is any part of this a thing. Assassinating a nation’s most senior military official, and then claiming that you do not wish to start a war with that nation, is not a thing.
America is at war with Iran currently. What that war will end up looking like is anyone’s guess right now, but there is no question that a war has been initiated. If any nation had assassinated a top US general via airstrike and then openly admitted to it, the US would immediately be at war with that nation. Without question. An extreme military retaliation would be in the works within minutes of the announcement, and the entire political/media class would fully support that retaliation in whatever form it took.
This may come as a surprise to some Americans, but that same principle holds true for other nations as well.
“His departure to God does not end his path or his mission, but a forceful revenge awaits the criminals who have his blood and the blood of the other martyrs last night on their hands,” Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said in a statement on Friday.
And, I mean, of course. Of course “forceful revenge” from Iran is in the mail. Only by the most bizarre American exceptionalist mental contortions could this not be blindingly obvious. The question isn’t if Iran will retaliate with extreme force, but when and where. Nobody with any functioning matter between their ears would expect anything else.
We’re at war with Iran. It’s not a potentiality any more. It just happened. Adjust your frame of reference accordingly
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) January 3, 2020
And of course the US government is now spouting completely unsubstantiated claims about General Qassem Soleimani, and of course the mass media are uncritically repeating those claims as fact, and of course the propagandized masses are regurgitating what their perception management screens have told them to believe. Trump administration officials are claiming without any evidence at all that Soleimani was plotting “imminent attacks on American diplomats and military personnel”, even going so far as trying to marry him to the 9/11 attacks and a host of other unsubstantiated excuses.
Anyone who believes any of this is a brainwashed imbecile. Because of the US government’s extensive history of lying to manufacture support for preexisting military agendas, the only sane response to unsubstantiated US government claims about targeted nations is absolute skepticism. That skepticism should remain in place until mountains of independently verifiable proof of the claims made has been provided. This is the only acceptable level of evidence that critical thinking permits in a post-Iraq invasion world.
This should be extremely obvious to everyone. The fact that it isn’t is the result of generations of increasingly sophisticated propaganda manipulating the way people think about war, what it is, and how it works. My social media notifications are currently flooded with Trump supporters assuring me that Soleimani was a “bad guy” and Trump is therefore a “good guy”, and that assassinating the top military official of a sovereign nation is a perfectly sane and acceptable thing for a government to do.
“I Oppose Interventionism, But-” But Nothing. Stop Being A Pro Bono CIA Propagandist.
Wrote this last year about apologists for Trump’s warmongering, and it applies equally to the “but Soleimani was a BAD GUY!” propaganda line they’re regurgitating today.https://t.co/GICxN6pzVW
— Caitlin Johnstone ⏳ (@caitoz) January 4, 2020
Don’t do this. Don’t advance war propaganda narratives for the US government.
Those who spread war propaganda are participating in that war just as much as those who actually go and fight in it, only they’re playing a far safer, far more cowardly, and far more dishonest role. A man who flies to Iran and murders Iranians with firearms is at least engaging in the war in a way that he will have to grapple with existentially for the rest of his life. A man who regurgitates Fox News propaganda on Twitter will then eat a pizza, have a wank, go to bed and sleep like a baby. But they both facilitated mass murder based on lies and American supremacist imperialism.
The war that Trump has started must be opposed forcefully and aggressively. Do everything you can to wake people up to what’s going on. This could get very, very ugly.
I’m going to keep following this important story and publishing regular updates as it unfolds. I encourage everyone else to pay close attention to it as well. Trump’s war with Iran should be front and center for everyone who cares about humanity.
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361 Comments on "“We Do Not Seek War,” Says President Who Just Started A War"
Davy on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 12:26 pm
“Iraq Votes To Expel US Troops As Iranian MPs Chant “Death To America”
https://tinyurl.com/tqc93kb zero hedge
“During an emergency parliamentary session this morning, the Iraqi government just voted to have foreign troops removed from the country.”
“Interim Iraqi prime minister, Adil Abdul Mahdi, stressed during the session, that while the US government notified the Iraqi military of the planned strike on Soleimani, his government denied Washington permission to continue with the operation.”
“Meanwhile, as the Iraqi government voted, the Iranian parliament took to the Parliament podium to chant “death to America.””
“After a speech by parliamentary Speaker Ali Larjani, who exclaimed “Mr. Trump, this is the voice of the Iranian nation,” MPs surged united to the podium…”
JuanP is stupid on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 12:30 pm
juanPee is a loser. He is a high school drop out who thinks he is bright. Instead he floods the forum with mindless bs. Hopefully one day he will be banned.
This is from stupid:
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REAL Green on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 12:45 pm
Humpty Dumpty
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
All the king’s horses and all the king’s men
Couldn’t put Humpty together again.
-Mother Goose
Duncan Idaho on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 12:49 pm
“Who is going to rushing to enlist to fight a war for Iranian oil? Hard to imagine even a generation of red state deplorables tearing themselves away from game consoles and meth pipes to do that.”
Cloggie on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 1:15 pm
Iran canceled nuclear deal with Obama, supported by the entire world:
https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/us-iran-soleimani-tensions-live-intl-01-05-20/index.html
Richard Guenette on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 1:58 pm
Iran did the right thing by canceling the nuclear “deal”.
Davy on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 2:06 pm
“The USA Doubles Down On Its Saudi Allegiance”
https://tinyurl.com/ra4ubws zero hedge
“For the United States to abandon proxy warfare and directly kill one of Iran’s most senior political figures has changed international politics in a fundamental way. It is a massive error. Its ramifications are profound and complex.”
“There is also a lesson to be learned here in that this morning there will be excitement and satisfaction in the palaces of Washington, Tel Aviv, Riyadh and Tehran. All of the political elites will see prospects for gain from the new fluidity. While for ordinary people in all those countries there is only the certainty of more conflict, death and economic loss, for the political elite, the arms manufacturers, the military and security services and allied interests, the hedge funds, speculators and oil companies, there are the sweet smells of cash and power.”
“Through all this the Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi had until now tiptoed with great care. Pro-Iranian yet a long term American client, his government maintained a form of impartiality based on an open hand to accept massive bribes from anybody. That is now over. He is pro-Iranian now”
Richard Guunette on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 2:06 pm
Miami is home to most of the South American gimmigrant population plaguing the US
Davy on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 2:16 pm
The REAL plague in the US is in Palm Beach Ricky. At Mar-A-Lago resort and spa.
Davy on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 2:27 pm
“Iran Will “No Longer Observe Any LImits” On Uranium Enrichment”
https://tinyurl.com/vkpz6gq zero hedge
“”The Islamic Republic will no longer observe any limits on the operational aspects of its nuclear program, to include uranium enrichment capacity, enrichment percentage, levels of enriched material and research and development,” Fars reported, citing a statement from the government.”
“As a reminder, President Trump started the process of unwinding Obama’s signature foreign policy deal in May 2018, when he withdrew the U.S. from the deal, setting off a chain of events that have seen tensions rise to the point where the two countries may now be on the brink of war.”
GO TRUMP!
Cloggie on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 3:31 pm
“Trump’s America stands utterly alone”
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/05/opinions/trump-allies-soleimani-iran-conflict-andelman/index.html
Written by a (((David Andelman))), a professional “holocaust”-survivor.
The jews are getting nervous that Donnie could manouver their precious ZOG into a war the US could lose. They have nothing against beating up Eyeran, but the US ending up in a conflict with the rest of the world is not too sexy. It has yet to dawn on our sheeny friends that Donnie could do this on purpose. Donnie as the US Trojan horse.
Poor jews, first the holohoax, now this.
Cloggie on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 3:34 pm
Look mobby, soon this will happen to all of you:
https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/bild-1303655-1497856.html
Cloggie on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 3:41 pm
Freudian slip:
https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/476844-netanyahu-corrects-himself-after-calling-israel
“Netanyahu corrects himself after calling Israel a ‘nuclear power’”
Our friends begin to stumble…, they are making too many mistakes and as such make themselves vulnerable. That’s good.
Cloggie on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 4:26 pm
*** Iraq to throw out US troops ***
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7853907/Iraqs-Parliament-calls-expulsion-U-S-troops.html
“Iraq’s parliament votes to expel ALL 5,000 US troops after Qassem Soleimani killing – stoking fears of sectarian civil war and ISIS resurgence as Shia militias fight anti-government protesters”
Expect scenes like these:
https://www.newsweek.com/last-helicopter-evacuating-saigon-321254
The US won’t look good. PNAC going down like a B737-Max.
joe on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 4:33 pm
the bigger danger is that Iran gets the bomb. when it does, Saudi will buy some from Pakistan and Turkey will build their own. how long will israel last then? sadly trump has thrown down the gauntlet and only a fool could not the reason for this. if Russia aids iran in any way then they cant finish their gas pipe network into Europe. if Russia fails to prevent the US destroying Irans nuclear facilties (facilities built by Russia) as must be the goal of all this then they lose serious face. that said gaining Europe and Mediterranean gas domination might be worth a nuclear programme and even an Ayatollah. eyes on the prize guys. oil is about to get blown up. (in more ways than one)
makati1 on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 5:22 pm
joe, Maybe North Korea has the right idea. “Rocket Man” will never give up nukes or the ability to use them. It is the insurance policy that guarantees their freedom from the Empire.
Likewise, if Iran had nukes, the Jews would run and hide, as their tiny patch of land, called Israel, could be destroyed in minutes. it would either create a ‘MAD’ scenario or the end of the world. Israel is the problem and if it was subdued, the ME could go back to normal. Israel is proof that religion is dangerous. Belief (brainwashing) over reality.
Maybe Turkey will take the US nukes stored there and kick out the Amerikans? Yep, this is going to be an ‘interesting’ year. Pass the popcorn.
full woke supremacist muzzie jerk low english i knew something wrong when a pretty little white girl ran to a black man arms dead giveaway deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed giveaway on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 5:44 pm
this is my master treaties. i don’t waste time on this forum. it’s lame.
muzzie bribe went with isis to make babies and now want to go back. what the world going to. this is ok but supertard big muzzie beard SAWS swt pbuh is banned from UK and harrassed by AA.
muzzie in UK wore fake suicide vest “to kill and be killed for allah”, a version of suicide by cops killed two people and shot by UK cops. cops say “unsure of motive”
Muzzie in France stabbed elderly and 4 others, cops say “unsure of motives”.
muzzi baghdadi got roasted and Navy gave muzzie burrial at sea. But muzzie is not a muzzie but it was burried as a muzzie. muzzie died like a dog but neither a dog or a muzzie. muzzie is not a muzzie but was burried at sea as a muzzie.
then whitey supertard trump roasted muzzie suelimani and Navy risked sailors lives to scoop in with helicopers to retrieve muzzie remaining for burrial at sea as muzzi. muzzie soleimani is not a muzzie but was burried at sea as a muzzie. muzzie roasted and identified with ring on finger. muzzie is not a muzzie. the name means “man who brings peace”, no sheeett
muzzie detonated in philipines christmas wounding people.
muzzies killed 11 christian in nigeria to “send message”
muzzie omama prevented roasting of muzzie soleimani. this muzzie is dead and was burried as muzzie by Dutch navy.
supertard big muzzie beard SAWS pbuh swt reported muzzies in ger comprise of 40% of jizya payment to the tune of 4 billion euros per month. with that money they could go REAL GREEN or FAKE GREEN, it doesn’t matter that would’d been prosperious without the rapey rapey and stabby muzzies. The scale of jizya is incredible. it’s all out in the open if you just listen to the UK muzzie andy choudary.
muzzie sabotage airliner and got loved 1000x in the form of reporting of “union dispute”. supertard big muzzie beard SAWS pbuh swtreported it’s actually jihad.
Then in astralia muzzie with big grin and smug looking face with a hat and meat grinder practically begged to be amputated and put on muzzie hamster wheel. cops love him 100000x more and are puzzled why he did this. i’m scratching my head too which has thinning hair
Muzzie in NZ allah acbar and went after cop with axe. Cops loved muzzie 10000x love conquer all. No tweet AOC SAWS pbuh swt , not siri Lanka, not when muzzie shot 6 cops on philadelphia. 25 billion tweet on Christchurch though
then there we deceptions of deep green, real green, deep deep green, fake fake green, and all the permutations of green. when AOC SAWS pbuh swt – (ZOMG i’m amazed at the technology in a sink food grinder) failed, the greta SAWS pbuh swt deception kicked in. I belived everything even the fantastic flying goat story.
for many years, centuries, million, quadrillion of years since (((supremetard))) SAWS pbuh swt created heaven and earth and before supertards SAWS pbuh swt big muzzie beard and glenn roberts put up web sites, i warned tards and supertards about muzzies.
i made no progress sort of like banging head against concrete, concrete wins everytime
but then i “reverted” to a supremacist muzzie jerk and I’m the best of humanity allah has created. i wear a muzzie dress and i pee sitting down holding up the bathroom line. this made supertard SAWS pbuh swt have bladder infection but the love for muzzies only intensified.
and now i have superpower, big goat SAWS pbuh swt is feeling intense heat. all stops are pulled it seems – even supertard Robert Inget the controlled libtard opposition is deployed to censor me. but uppertard SAWS pbuh swt is not going to destroy free speech for someones love of muzzie. supertard SIS SAWS pbuh swt dropped the appeal and that’s final. it’s now as good as case law. supertard SIS SAWS pbuh is back being occupied with his bunker and learjet and auto keltecs and he said absolutely do not bother him. so it’s set in stone that uppertard SAWS swt pbuh is not going to modify this forum
JuanP is stupid on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 5:47 pm
This is the kind of shit makato supports! what a pathetic old man
This is from stupid:
full woke supremacist muzzie jerk low english i knew something wrong when a pretty little white girl ran to a black man arms dead giveaway deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed giveaway said this is my master treaties. i don’t waste time on…
JuanP on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 5:54 pm
But a deeper cause of this increased derangement may stem from events that began September 11, 2012 – the Obama administration’s behavior in the aftermath of the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi, Libya. As most will recall, the administration sent Susan Rice to inform the nation that the lethal terror attack occurred because of a spontaneous emotional reaction to an amateur anti-Islamic video that barely anyone had ever watched. It was not a planned attack by a terror group, Rice said. That was a despicable lie. Kenneth Timmerman wrote in the NY Post in June 2014: “My sources, meanwhile, say Suleymani [sic] was involved in an even more direct attack on the U.S.—the killing of Ambassador Christopher Stevens in Benghazi, Libya.” Timmerman goes on to detail a complicated and clever plot behind Benghazi worthy of the evil mastermind Qasem Soleimani. (Read it here.) If this is true – and it seems vastly more likely than Susan Rice’s “explanation” – then what just occurred at Baghdad Airport is a prime, and highly-justified, example of that old saw: what goes around comes around.
Davy on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 6:02 pm
“Chris Hedges: The American Empire Will Not Die With A Whimper, But A Bang”
https://tinyurl.com/w4mrryt zero hedge
“The assassination by the United States of Gen. Qassem Soleimani, the head of Iran’s elite Quds Force, near Baghdad’s airport will ignite widespread retaliatory attacks against U.S. targets from Shiites, who form the majority in Iraq. It will activate Iranian-backed militias and insurgents in Lebanon and Syria and throughout the Middle East. The existing mayhem, violence, failed states and war, the result of nearly two decades of U.S. blunders and miscalculations in the region, will become an even wider and more dangerous conflagration. The consequences are ominous. Not only will the U.S. swiftly find itself under siege in Iraq and perhaps driven out of the country—there is only a paltry force of 5,200 U.S. troops in Iraq, all U.S. citizens in Iraq have been told to leave the country “immediately” and the embassy and consular services have been closed—but the situation could also draw us into a war directly with Iran. The American Empire, it seems, will die not with a whimper but a bang.”
“The targeting of Soleimani, who was killed by a MQ-9 Reaper drone that fired missiles into his convoy as he was leaving the Baghdad airport, also took the life of Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the deputy commander of Iran-backed militias in Iraq known as the Popular Mobilization Forces, along with other Iraqi Shiite militia leaders. The strike may temporarily bolster the political fortunes of the two beleaguered architects of the assassination, Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, but it is an act of imperial suicide by the United States. There can be no positive outcome. It opens up the possibility of an Armageddon-type scenario relished by the lunatic fringes of the Christian right.”
“A war with Iran would see it use its Chinese-supplied anti-ship missiles, mines and coastal artillery to shut down the Strait of Hormuz, which is the corridor for 20% of the world’s oil supply. Oil prices would double, perhaps triple, devastating the global economy. The retaliatory strikes by Iran on Israel, as well as on American military installations in Iraq, would leave hundreds, maybe thousands, of dead. The Shiites in the region, from Saudi Arabia to Pakistan, would see an attack on Iran as a religious war against Shiism. The 2 million Shiites in Saudi Arabia, concentrated in the oil-rich Eastern province, the Shiite majority in Iraq and the Shiite communities in Bahrain, Pakistan and Turkey would turn in fury on us and our dwindling allies. There would be an increase in terrorist attacks, including on American soil, and widespread sabotage of oil production in the Persian Gulf. Hezbollah in southern Lebanon would renew attacks on northern Israel. War with Iran would trigger a long and widening regional conflict that, by the time it was done, would terminate the American Empire and leave in its wake mounds of corpses and smoldering ruins. Let us hope for a miracle to pull us back from this Dr. Strangelove self-immolation.”
“Iran, which has vowed “harsh retaliation,” is already reeling under the crippling economic sanctions imposed by the Trump administration when it unilaterally withdrew in 2018 from the Iranian nuclear arms deal. Tensions in Iraq between the U.S. and the Shiite majority, at the same time, have been escalating. On Dec. 27 Katyusha rockets were fired at a military base in Kirkuk where U.S. forces are stationed. An American civilian contractor was killed and several U.S. military personnel were wounded. The U.S. responded on Dec. 29 by bombing sites belonging to the Iranian-backed Kataib Hezbollah militia. Two days later Iranian-backed militias attacked the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, vandalizing and destroying parts of the building and causing its closure. But this attack will soon look like child’s play.”
“Iraq after our 2003 invasion and occupation has been destroyed as a unified country. Its once-modern infrastructure is in ruins. Electrical and water services are, at best, erratic. There is high unemployment and discontent over widespread government corruption that has led to bloody street protests. Warring militias and ethnic factions have carved out competing and antagonistic enclaves. At the same time, the war in Afghanistan is lost, as the Afghanistan Papers published by The Washington Post detail. Libya is a failed state. Yemen after five years of unrelenting Saudi airstrikes and a blockade is enduring one of the world’s worst humanitarian disasters. The “moderate” rebels we funded and armed in Syria at a cost of $500 million, after instigating a lawless reign of terror, have been beaten and driven out of the country. The monetary cost for this military folly, the greatest strategic blunder in American history, is between $5 trillion and $7 trillion.”
“So why go to war with Iran? Why walk away from a nuclear agreement that Iran did not violate? Why demonize a government that is the mortal enemy of the Taliban, along with other jihadist groups, including al-Qaida and Islamic State? Why shatter the de facto alliance we have with Iran in Iraq and Afghanistan? Why further destabilize a region already dangerously volatile?”
“The generals and politicians who launched and prosecuted these wars are not about to take the blame for the quagmires they created. They need a scapegoat. It is Iran. The hundreds of thousands of dead and maimed, including at least 200,000 civilians, and the millions driven from their homes into displacement and refugee camps cannot, they insist, be the result of our failed and misguided policies. The proliferation of radical jihadist groups and militias, many of which we initially trained and armed, along with the continued worldwide terrorist attacks, have to be someone else’s fault. The generals, the CIA, the private contractors and weapons manufacturers who have grown rich off these conflicts, the politicians such as George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump, along with all the “experts” and celebrity pundits who serve as cheerleaders for endless war, have convinced themselves, and want to convince us, that Iran is responsible for our catastrophe.”
“The chaos and instability we unleashed in the Middle East, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan, left Iran as the dominant country in the region. Washington empowered its nemesis. It has no idea how to reverse its mistake other than to attack Iran.”
“Trump and Netanyahu, as well as Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, are mired in scandal. They believe a new war would divert attention from their foreign and domestic crises. But they have no more rational strategy for war with Iran than they did for the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Syria. European allies, whom Trump alienated when he walked away from the Iranian nuclear agreement, will not cooperate with Washington if the U.S. goes to war with Iran. The Pentagon lacks the hundreds of thousands of troops it would need to attack and occupy Iran. And the Trump administration’s view that the marginal and discredited Iranian resistance group Mujahedeen-e-Khalq (MEK), which fought alongside Saddam Hussein in the war against Iran and is seen by most Iranians as composed of traitors, is a viable counterforce to the Iranian government is ludicrous.”
“International law, along with the rights of 80 million people in Iran, is ignored just as the rights of the peoples of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Syria were ignored. The Iranians, whatever they feel about their despotic regime, would not see the United States as allies or liberators. They do not want to be occupied. They would resist.”
A war with Iran would be seen throughout the region as a war against Shiism. But these are calculations that the ideologues, who know little about the instrument of war and even less about the cultures or peoples they seek to dominate, cannot fathom. Attacking Iran would be no more successful than the Israeli airstrikes on Lebanon in 2006, which failed to break Hezbollah and united most Lebanese behind that militant group. The Israeli bombing did not pacify 4 million Lebanese. What will happen if we begin to pound a country of 80 million people whose land mass is three times the size of France?
The United States, like Israel, has become a pariah that shreds, violates or absents itself from international law. We launch preemptive wars, which under international law is defined as a “crime of aggression,” based on fabricated evidence. We, as citizens, must hold our government accountable for these crimes. If we do not, we will be complicit in the codification of a new world order, one that would have terrifying consequences. It would be a world without treaties, statutes and laws. It would be a world where any nation, from a rogue nuclear state to a great imperial power, would be able to invoke its domestic laws to annul its obligations to others. Such a new order would undo five decades of international cooperation—largely put in place by the United States—and thrust us into a Hobbesian nightmare. Diplomacy, broad cooperation, treaties and law, all the mechanisms designed to civilize the global community, would be replaced by savagery.
JuanP on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 6:03 pm
Wow this is great
https://www.tiktok.com/@slowcrow/video/6777858709155613958
makati1 on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 6:07 pm
Watching the US destroy itself this year will be another “what goes around, comes around” example. With very few exceptions, the US government is a psychotic, suicidal bunch taking the country to new lows. How low can it go?
I doubt it has one real ally in this adventure. Certainly the EU wants no part of the coming fiasco, nor does any Asian countries. Ditto, Africa and the rest of the Amerikas. Hmm. Amerika stands alone in its new world order. Trump has managed to isolate it more than even pre the world wars.
JuanP on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 6:11 pm
“As an Iranian, I want to thank you with all my heart”
Iranians and Iraqis are celebrating after the Pentagon, under the direction of President Trump, carried out an airstrike in Baghdad that killed Iranian military leader Qasem Soleimani.
The action came in response to an Iran-led attack on the US embassy in Iraq.
Soleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ elite Quds Force, a designated terror group since 2007, was despised by many in Iran, and by Iraqis who have been subject to a campaign of terror in their own country at the hands of forces operating in lockstep with the Iranian military.
JuanP on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 6:16 pm
As creeps like Rep. Ilhan Omar denounce the rubout of Iranian terrorist kingpin Qassem Soleimani as the killing of a “foreign official,” the press calls him “a farm boy” or “icon,” and stupid Hollywood celebrities send their condolences to “the Iranian people,” (who are celebrating, actually) the ugly hard reality remains that Qassem Soleimani, leader of the terrorist Quds force, was a monster, a stone-cold killer of innocents, the driving force behind Iran as a state sponsor of terror. His funeral song should be “That Smell.” He stunk of death all around him and liked the stench. According to the Washington Post:
“The warfront is mankind’s lost paradise,” Soleimani said in a 2009 interview. “One type of paradise that is portrayed for mankind is streams, beautiful nymphs and greeneries. But there is another kind of paradise. … The warfront was the lost paradise of the human beings, indeed.”
Cloggie on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 6:56 pm
Oh dear…
https://russia-insider.com/en/only-17-hungarians-believe-holocaust-happened-21-poland/ri28091
“Only 17% of Hungarians Believe the ‘Holocaust’ Happened, 21% in Poland”
One of the key assets of ZOG going through the shitter. The other one is the Fed.
Davy on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 8:44 pm
Got any links JuanP?
dumbass
JuanP on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 8:49 pm
eat shit and die
REAL Green on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 8:55 pm
We need to see the docter JuanP.
REAL Bad like.
Davy on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 9:22 pm
“Wow this is great”
https://www.tiktok.com/@slowcrow/video/6777858709155613958
Coming from a dumbass redneck hillbilly like you JuanP.
Not surprising at all. You uneducated gunny sack full o’ goat shit.
full woke supremacist muzzie jerk low english i knew some wrong when a pretty little white girl ran to a black man arms dead giveaway deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed giveaway on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 9:27 pm
Y did the navy risk seal lives and scoop in with helis to grab remaining of dead muzzie suleimani for burial as muzzie at sea
THEN
gave it to Dutch navy to bury dead muzzie as muzzie at sea?
godlikeproduction has nothing!
nothing from lunaticoutpost
full woke supremacist muzzie jerk low english i knew some wrong when a pretty little white girl ran to a black man arms dead giveaway deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed giveaway on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 11:08 pm
muzzies mourn death of muzzei soleimani
who was burried at sea by navy as a muzie but it’s not a muzzie.
muzzies mouned deth of muzzie in canada
muzzies mourned deth of muzzie died like a dog soleimani in UK
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 2:36 am
Brexit is now “Mission Accomplished”, thank God, now comes the next stage in the unraveling of Anglosphere (“Globalstan”): the sequence of events in the Middle East.
The guessing is now what comes next, once Soleimani will have been buried. Options:
– Halting all shipping in the Gulf
– Taking down a western plane flying over the Gulf or Iran
– Creating a new hostage crisis, this time not with 52 but with 5000 US hostages. 5000 Americans in the hands of Tehran, on public display, could exercise some serious restraint on the options Donnie has.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7854807/Trump-familys-two-week-vacation-comes-end.html
“Donald Trump warns ally Iraq will be hit with crippling sanctions if they kick out US troops over the killing of Soleimani and threatens ‘major retaliation’ if Iran launches revenge attack”
I personally hope the first, so that all oil and gas shipping from the Gulf to Europe and China will come to a grinding halt, mobilizing tout Eurasia against the Great Satan, forcing Europe to overcome the western “alliance” and complete North Stream in record time and next South Stream, making crucial Russia stinking rich in the process with 200 euro oil and gas, forcing Europe now to get real serious with the transition and drop that prudent 2050 target and go for 2030 instead.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/01/03/netherlands-sustainable-by-2030/
“Netherlands Sustainable by 2030”
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/03/24/the-netherlands-fossil-free-in-2030/
“The Netherlands Fossil Free in 2030”
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/hans-josef-fell-accelerating-the-global-transition-to-100-renewable-energy/
“Hans-Josef Fell – Accelerating the Global Transition to 100% Renewable Energy by 2030”
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/05/16/by-2030-you-wont-own-a-car/
“By 2030 You Won’t Own a Car”
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 4:27 am
Trump’s deplorables don’t want war, they’ll get it anyway:
https://www.spiegel.de/video/iran-usa-krise-donald-trump-nach-dem-raketenangriff-video-99031452.html
Millions are attending the funeral of Soleimani, the most popular Iranian to date, the Khomeini 2.0, who this time didn’t die a natural death, but was killed by arch-enemy ZOG. Eurasia just got hold of an extra highly motivated army of 80 million, that can and will be sicked against empire. Expect the rulers of KSA to shit in their pants, because they are the next regime change and than there is Egypt.
https://www.spiegel.de/video/livestream-begraebnis-von-general-soleimani-in-iran-video-99031451.html
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 5:15 am
Russian-German Iran-consultations, on initiative of Putin. Merkel will travel to Moscow on Saturday:
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/iran-krise-angela-merkel-trifft-sich-mit-wladimir-putin-a-1303779.html
Today there will be German-French-British consultations about Iran and its announcement it has cancelled the nuclear agreement. The German FM described the American action as “not very helpful”. He also said that every Iraqi decision (like throwing out foreign troops, incl. Bundeswehr) will be respected.
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 5:44 am
Trump’s buddies at the comment section of the DailyMail are not amused with the action of Trump in Baghdad:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7854807/Trump-familys-two-week-vacation-comes-end.html#comments
This stunt could cost DJT his reelection in 2020.
ScottMcG, Denver, 10 hours ago
I hope he enjoyed golfing today while thousands of United States soldiers lined up to go fight the war he started.
Pro: 1418
Con: 817
planopatusa, planotx, 9 hours ago
Donny Jr and Eric should line up to go fight for Daddy.
Pro: 1089
Con: 335
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 5:48 am
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7855843/Irans-supreme-leader-Ali-Khamenei-prays-coffin-Qassem-Soleimani.html
“Iran’s supreme leader Ali Khamenei weeps over Soleimani’s coffin at Tehran funeral as assassinated warlord’s daughter warns that families of US troops are ‘waiting for the death of their children'”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7855927/Boris-Johnson-summons-ministers-crisis-meeting-amid-Iran-threats.html
“We will kill British troops, warns Iran: Boris Johnson summons ministers for crisis meeting as Iranian commander threatens UK soldiers after PM BACKS Donald Trump over Qassem Soleimani killing”
Note that Britain was NOT consulted in advance, very much unlike Israel. Netanyahu even twittered in veiled language that something grave was about to happen, hours in advance. Now British war ships are in the Iranian cross-hairs.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7855763/Iranian-general-vows-revenge-airstrikes.html
“Replacement for slain Iranian general Qassem Soleimani vows revenge for U.S. airstrikes in chilling threat issued on state TV – as his daughter swears death to American soldiers”
JuanP on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 5:57 am
The German government said Friday that the United States had reason to strike and kill a the top commander of the Iranian Quds Force late Thursday in Baghdad after the Iranian regime provided support to its militias that targeted U.S. citizens and facilities in Iraq.
The surprise support from Germany on the targeted killing of Iranian Quds Force Gen. Qassem Soleimani was validated by German government spokeswoman Ulrike Demmer in a statement that was posted on Twitter by U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell.
Grenell has long stressed the need for European partners to get on the same page with the United States regarding Iran and has worked extensively behind the scenes to push German officials to support U.S. policy on the issue.
“The American action was a reaction to a series of military provocations for which Iran is responsible,” said Demmer.
German government spokeswoman Ulrike Demmer, “The American action was a reaction to a series of military provocations for which Iran is responsible.”
— Richard Grenell (@RichardGrenell) January 3, 2020
Moreover, German officials have been well aware of the extensive reach of the Iran Quds Force and its umbrella agency the Iranian Revolutionary Guard operations, which works directly under the authority of the Iranian regime.
For example, in January, 2019 Germany revoked the license of Iranian airliner Mahan Air, after evidence revealed it provided support, including financial, to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards (IRGC).
Grenell was instrumental in working with the German government to ensure that the Iranian airliner’s license was revoked.
At the time, a German foreign ministry spokesman said his nation, “revoked the license of an Iranian airline because it has been transporting military equipment and personnel to Syria and other Middle East war zones.”
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 6:22 am
Sacha Baron Cohen Burns Mark Zuckerberg At Golden Globes For Spreading ‘Nazi Propaganda’
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sacha-baron-cohen-golden-globes-mark-zuckerberg_n_5e12bacae4b0843d3614d2da
Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 8:14 am
“The Cause Of America’s Dysfunctionality”
https://tinyurl.com/yhh8ub3n zero hedge
“In analyzing the causes for the dysfunctional nature of American society (e.g., soaring suicide rates, especially among young people, massive drug addiction and alcoholism, and widespread violence, including irrational mass killings), among the things to consider is the replacement of America’s founding economic, monetary, and governmental system with a different system.”
“Ironically, even though they live under an opposite type of system from that of their American ancestors, today’s Americans are themselves convinced that they live lives of freedom. That sentiment is best manifested by the eagerness of modern-day Americans to thank imperial troops serving in faraway lands for protecting “our freedom” by killing and destroying people over there.”
“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
“Psychological denial of reality with respect to freedom as well as the abandonment of America’s good founding principles are the root cause of the dysfunctional nature of American society today.”
Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 8:31 am
“Pelosi: House To Introduce ‘War Powers Resolution’ To Limit Trump In Iran”
https://tinyurl.com/ygn82lbs zero hedge
“In a move which is sure to enrage President Trump, Nancy Pelosi said in a Sunday letter to colleagues that the House will introduce an vote on a “War Powers Resolution” which will “limit the President’s military actions regarding Iran.””
“”Last week, the Trump Administration conducted a provocative and disproportionate military airstrike targeting high-level Iranian military officials. This action endangered our servicemembers, diplomats and others by risking a serious escalation of tensions with Iran,” reads the letter.”
“As Members of Congress, our first responsibility is to keep the American people safe. For this reason, we are concerned that the Administration took this action without the consultation of Congress and without respect for Congress’s war powers granted to it by the Constitution.”
“The Resolution is similar to one introduced in the Senate by Tim Kaine, and “reasserts Congress’s long-established oversight responsibilities by mandating that if no further Congressional action is taken, the Administration’s military hostilities with regard to Iran cease within 30 days.””
“Former CIA and DoD analyst Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-NY) will lead the House Resolution.”
JuanP is stupid on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 8:37 am
One thing about juanPee’s Davy ID theft practices it is good education for him. It requires him to do a little research. I am glad he is getting used to Zero Hedge too. This is a big step for a guy that dropped out of high school and fucked off his whole life.
This is from stupid
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Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 9:05 am
“The United States’ Assassination of Iranian Military Leader Violates International Law”
https://tinyurl.com/yew538pm common dreams
“The killing of Qasem Soleimani, a top Iranian military commander, by the United States marks a terrible escalation between the United States and Iran, which U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo described as a “defensive action””
“But Pompeo is wrong on this point. The United States most likely committed an act of aggression against Iran and killed Soleimani in violation of human rights law”
“Under the UN Charter, Iran and the United States have a legal obligation to settle their disputes peacefully. As a permanent member of the UN Security Council, the United States has the ability at any time to discuss threats against it. It has chosen not to do this, instead using almost-certainly illegal force against another UN member country. The consequences will be grave.”
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 9:32 am
Sacha Baron Cohen Burns Mark Zuckerberg At Golden Globes For Spreading ‘Nazi Propaganda’
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sacha-baron-cohen-golden-globes-mark-zuckerberg_n_5e12bacae4b0843d3614d2da
Uh-oh, panic in the kosher hen-house! LOL
Cohen is right of course, the free internet is a hotbed for undesirable opinions, the Cohens of this world want to suppress.
Too little, too late. The internet is far bigger than Facebook and although the jews DO control the MSM in Anglosphere, as well as Facebook, they don’t control the internet. And freedom of speech is a US constitutional right. Zuckerbook has a real dilemma here: do they seriously want to sensor millions of daily posts? This could backfire and fuel centuries old conspiracy theories about jewish control.
Never mind, since the Trump presidency the cat is out of the bag and there is nothing the media masters can do any more to stop devolution/secession or even CW.
Rear guard fight. When future historians will write the history of the downfall of empire, the internet will be pointed at as the main catalyst to escape from Washington.
This video is the perfect illustration for the state of affairs in America until 2016: smart jews making fun of low-IQ whites, a la empire dave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWeMWD-Yagg
That is the difference between Europeans on the one hand and mentally slower Russians and Americans on the other. The Europeans throw jews in the concentration camp, where they belong; jews and their merry band of bolsheviks in contrast throw Russians in the Gulag and kill them by the millions. Expect the same thing to happen with Americans, if Eurasia wouldn’t intervene to stop them. No worries, they will.
JuanP on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 9:54 am
Good work cloggie, we need more comments like that!
JuanP on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 10:14 am
In today’s world, almost all of the USA’s enemies are good guys because Americans have been on the wrong side of every conflict they ever got involved in. Soleimani fought American and Israeli terrorism all his life. He was Iran’s best soldier and a real life hero to most Iranians. In the end, he gave his life for his nation. Do I need say more?
JuanP on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 10:24 am
I might add he was a killer and a thief but that is ok because he killed a lot of Americans.
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 10:56 am
Thug life:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7856647/Attacking-Irans-cultural-sites-war-crime-Trump-warned-Democrats-Britain.html
“Boris Johnson warns Donald Trump against ‘war crime’ plan to attack Iran’s cultural sites after US president said they were fair game”
Overview of all the Iranian cultural treasures DJT wants to destroy in case Iran retaliates. Note that the Great Satan did something similar after 1941 when the treasures of an entire country (Germany) were destroyed in an effort by the US to add Germany and the rest of Europe to its empire and start the American Century, all by design and that is now almost over. A major war in the Gulf will suffice.
Cloggie on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 11:37 am
Brave but rare US dissident Paul Craig Roberts: “Putin’s Hour Is at Hand, He Has No Choice But to Block Any US/Israeli Attack on Iran”
https://russia-insider.com/en/putins-hour-hand-he-has-no-choice-block-any-usisraeli-attack-iran/ri28130
Vladimir Putin is the most impressive leader on the world stage. He survived and arose from a Russia corrupted by Washington and Israel during the Yeltsin years and reestablished Russia as a world power. He dealt successfully with American/Israeli aggression against South Ossetia and against Ukraine, incorporating at Crimea’s request the Russian province back into Mother Russia. He has tolerated endless insults and provocations from Washington and its empire without responding in kind. He is conciliatory and a peacemaker from a position of strength.
He knows that the American empire based as it is on arrogance and lies is failing economically, socially, politically, and militarily. He understands that war serves no Russian interest.
PCR home run.
Washington’s murder of Soleimani is a criminal act that could start World War 3 just as the Serbian murder of the Austrian Archduke set World War 1 in motion. Only Putin and Russia with China’s help can stop this war that Washington has set in motion.
The easiest and cleanest way for Putin to do this is to announce that Iran is under Russia’s protection. This protection should be formalized in a mutual defense treaty between Russia, China, and Iran, with perhaps India and Turkey as members… an alliance such as this would prevent war.
He can calm down Iran by giving Iran the best Russian air defense systems with Russian crews to train the Iranians and whose presence serve as a warning to Washington and Israel that an attack on Russian forces is an attack on Russia.
Iranian missiles can sink any American vessels anywhere near Iran. Chinese missiles can sink any American fleets anywhere near China. Russian missiles can sink American fleets anywhere in the world… The ability of Washington to project power in the Middle East now that everyone, Shia and Sunni and Washington’s former proxies such as ISIS, hates Americans with a passion is zero.
So there are risks for Putin. But there are also risks for Putin failing to take charge. If Washington and Israel attack Iran, which Israel will try to provoke by some false flag event as sinking an American warship and blaming Iran, Russia will be at war anyway. Better for the initiative to be in Putin’s hands. And better for the world and life on Earth for Russia to be in charge.
Davy on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 12:33 pm
“I might add he was a killer and a thief but that is ok because he killed a lot of Americans.”
Other than military intervention against an unjust and illegal occupying force hell bent on destabilizing the entire region. Got any proof to back up yer claims JuanPee.
full woke supremacist muzzie jerk low english i knew some wrong when a pretty little white girl ran to a black man arms dead giveaway deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed giveaway on Mon, 6th Jan 2020 12:44 pm
hey guys, i will have to post updated treatise, i don’t do manifesto sorry. it’s for commies and nazis and libs. i never spent time here, it’s infested with muzzie lovers and muzzies.
powered by muzzie love, the peace doves just keep growing and growing and now there’s hardly any sun ray for me. the muzzie loving peace doves grow tall and block out the sun. only way to remedy this situation is to drone more muzzies. i hope whitey supertard trump will make good on his threat.