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Kunstler: Pushback
A very brave law professor at the University of Pennsylvania, named Amy Wax has published the astounding argument that human beings in America would benefit from adopting “bourgeois values” and behaving accordingly. Bourgeois (Boozh-wah, for the underspeeched) may be an unfortunate term-of-art, since it came to be used as a pejorative back in the old hippie days — something that Ms. Wax might remember, since she is a Baby Boomer — but what else might you call this bundle of traditional values: honesty, fidelity, thrift, temperance, punctuality, fortitude, gratitude, dedication, kindness, loyalty, et cetera?
A glance at Amy Wax’s credentials might induce a head-snap.
Amy Laura Wax received a B.S. summa cum laude in molecular biophysics and biochemistry from Yale in 1975. She was then a Marshall Scholar in Philosophy, Physiology, and Psychology at Somerville College at Oxford University. She earned an M.D. from Harvard Medical School in 1981, training as a neurologist, and received a J.D. from Columbia in 1987, where she was an editor of the Law Review. She was a Law Clerk to the Honorable Abner J. Mikva, U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit from 1987-88. From 1988-94, she served as Assistant to the Office of the Solicitor General in the U.S. Department of Justice, where she argued 15 cases before the United States Supreme Court. Wax was a member of the Legal Affairs Committee, American Academy of Neurology from 1986-1992. In 1994, she joined the faculty of UVA [U. of Virginia]. She taught courses in civil procedure, labor law, and poverty law and welfare policy. She became Class of 1948 Professor of Scholarly Research in Law from 2000-01. After becoming a visiting professor to Penn Law School in 2000, she joined its faculty in 2001.
By some miracle, she didn’t end up a professor of Intersectional Gender Justice. Of course, the Social Justice commissars around the country regard her as just another neo-Nazi punk committing violence-through-speech against the ethno-sexual minorities who seek to throw off the shackles of Cis-White Privilege oppression. In an op-ed essay in the Philadelphia Inquirer (co-authored with Larry Alexander of the University of San Diego School of Law) titled Paying the Price for Breakdown of the Country’s Bourgeois Culture, Wax argued that “the single-parent, anti-social habits, prevalent among some working-class whites, the anti ‘acting white’ rap culture of inner-city blacks” and the “anti-assimilation ideas gaining ground among some Hispanic immigrants” are not suited to a First-World 21st Century Environment.
The casual observer (from Mars) might take all that as self-evident, but it’s a hard sell nowadays, especially in Ivory Towerville, where, supposedly, the rectified essences of abiding human intelligence are said to dwell. That super-refined scholarly nation-within–a-nation is also mostly walled off from the more unappetizing realities of what an American-style First-World 21st Century Environment actually is. In fact, that very “environment” is mostly characterized by a breakdown of just about everything that might promote the formerly eternal verities. It has been accompanied move-for-move by a breakdown in economic relations that leaves a big chunk of the national demographic peon-ized, bereft of work that is either meaningful or pays enough to support a family, and places them at the mercy (actually, there is no mercy) of gigantic, dishonest, avaricious companies and public institutions driven by stupid crypto-religious ideologies.
Oddly, the personal economic calamity represented by that trend is mirrored on the Ivy League campuses where a tiny elite cadre of tenured professors enjoys immunity from both impoverishment and real critical thinking, while an ever-expanding corps of serf-like adjunct teachers does all the heavy-lifting in the classrooms and struggles to pay the light bill — and a new breed of diversity deans and other administrative hierophants feeds gluttonously at the trough of the college loan racket.
The main criticism of Amy Wax’s prescription for cultural improvement is that it’s simply not possible to go back to the economically stable world of the 1950s that supported the roster of human virtues she wants to bring back online. It may be so, alas, but that still doesn’t obviate the basic value of behavioral norms. And deep down in their dark Gnostic hearts, the Social Justice Commissariat must agree. Otherwise, why would they be promoting so strenuously the exemplary earnest behavior of the DACA “Dreamers.”
Amy Wax was hammered by her colleagues at the Penn Law School for daring to express these ideas. More than half of the law faculty signed an “open letter” of censorious opprobrium against her. They “categorically rejected” her arguments without offering any counter-arguments. The law school’s chapter of the Lawyer’s Guild is maneuvering to get her fired from her teaching duties. That’s how we roll now in Witch Hunt Nation. I think Amy Wax has the fortitude to get through this. But will the universities ever recover?
165 Comments on "Kunstler: Pushback"
fmr-paultard on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 7:19 am
many phils consider marcos the greatest, duterte thinks so too.
dude killed aquino and was a dictator with martial law. stole tons of money too.
duterte threatended to go martial law too.
basically another banana republic. what’s so good about it?
fmr-paultard on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 7:30 am
moderators are supertards and uppertards and sis has direct line to them. they banned me but i complained that it amounts to promoting tard extremist nazi preachers.
i want to enlist women so we can solve poverty in women. they can kill tard extremist nazi preachers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bc18PRjEXg
it’s amazing that socialist/communist countries and elsewhere women are better represented.
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 7:56 am
A stubbornly strong euro, with its dampening effect on inflation, is driving a rift among ECB policymakers, the sources on the ECB’s Governing Council with direct knowledge of its thinking said.
You claim to be a “finance guy”.
Do I really have to explain to you that a strong currency means a strong and trustworthy economy?
Before the euro, the German DM, Dutch guilder and Swiss CFH were strong. Nobody claimed they had weak economies.
Keep googling Davy. Perhaps you find a weak spot.
twocats on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 8:03 am
@cloggie – that’s so ten years ago. nowadays a strong currency means you’re not printing fast enough and its hurting your export competitiveness.
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 8:17 am
@cloggie – that’s so ten years ago.
18 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro
nowadays a strong currency means you’re not printing fast enough and its hurting your export competitiveness.
Yes you are right. Strong currency now means exactly the same as it did 18 years ago.
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 8:50 am
Davy, I don’t even consider you a rational human. Why should I care what you think or do? I enjoy poking holes in your bullshit as a way to get a break from things that are important.
You seem to think that you will get a different reaction from doing the same name calling and putdowns over and over. I think that is a definition of insanity.
You cannot do anything about me, or the others you disagree with, and it is frustrating your 1%er arrogance. You were brought up to believe you should live an ‘exceptional’ life because of your birth advantage. Now you find that you are going to die in a 3rd world lifestyle, IF you survive that long.
I will outlive you because I do NOT stress out over much these days and you certainly don’t even register on my stress meter. You are a toy. Something to play with and toss aside after the break. Toss…
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 9:03 am
Cloggie you did not read the Article(s). If you did they would show you the dysfunction of ECB QE, stubbornly low inflation(demand deflation) and debt insolvencyo (minus ECB support). In fact I have read many European companies would be insolvent if Euro wide rates normalized. Yet, I would expect that out of you becuase all you do is goal seek anything that promotes your Eurotard agenda.
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 9:05 am
fmr, you like that US propaganda don’t you? You do know that Marcos was put in place by the US who pretty much controlled him.
Whereas, Duterte was put in place by the people and he is still a people’s president with an approval rating of at least 80%, whereas, most recent US presidents rarely have even a 50% approval rating. Trumps current average is about 44%.
http://news.gallup.com/poll/219017/slim-majority-approves-trump-handling-economy.aspx
Duterte has the advantage of never being in DC or attending US propaganda mills called colleges. The previous two presidents here were US ass-kissers. Good riddance. I hope he kicks the US out of Mindanao and strengthen ties with Russia and China. He knows he US just wants to get a war going and use the Ps as the ‘expendable’ country. You don’t need college to be able to think. In fact a college education block an open mind.
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 9:11 am
fmr, you like that US propaganda don’t you?
fmr-paultard is even an embarrassment to commissar Sissyfuss, not exactly the most right-wing person on this board, to put it mildly.
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 9:11 am
mkat, obviously I have you worked up because all you do now is defend your dumbass. I used to be on your ignore list. You proudly told other “I ignore Davy” ha ha ha. I think you are struggling to maintain a difficult position of self-promotion and the discrediting of anyone not part of your flaming extremist anti-American illness. Just go to bed old man. You will do better in the morning with a little rest.
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 10:10 am
“This Is Where The Next Financial Crisis Will Come From”
http://tinyurl.com/yd2989v7
“Having said that, crises tend to have a large element of unpredictability. If they didn’t then surely more would predict their imminent arrival. So while we highlight a lot of the main global vulnerabilities in this report, history would tell us that there is still a chance that when the next crisis comes its origin will take us by surprise to a certain degree. As will its timing. In the remainder of this executive summary we highlight the conditions that have encouraged crises through history and the main areas of worry as to why we may be vulnerable for another financial crisis relatively soon. Periods with a higher number of crises/shocks coincide with higher levels of debt….We think the final break with precious metal currency systems from the early 1970s (after centuries of adhering to such regimes) and to a fiat currency world has encouraged budget deficits, rising debts, huge credit creation, ultra loose monetary policy, global build-up of imbalances, financial deregulation and more unstable markets.”
“by continually using stimulus to deal with crises and not letting creative destruction take over, you make a subsequent crisis more likely by passing the problem along to some other part of the global financial system, and usually in bigger size. In a fiat currency world, intervention and money creation is the path of least resistance. In a Gold standard world, mining new gold was the only stable way of increasing the money supply. We think this leaves the current global economy particularly prone to a cycle of booms, busts, heavy intervention, recovery and the cycle starting again. There is no natural point where a purge of the excesses is forced by a restriction on credit creation. So we’re quite confident that there will likely be another financial crisis/shock pretty soon with their frequency continuing to be high until we create a more stable global financial framework.”
“So where will the next crisis come from? An obvious issue is how we resolve the combination of the unwinding of unparalleled central bank balance sheet sizes at a time of record peacetime government debt and multi-century record low yields. We also still have extreme levels of global imbalances which pose a risk as international capital flows are necessary to support the status quo. These are harder to control by authorities or predict. All this is occurring at a time of extremely high global asset prices and still low economic growth relative to the past. Could we be vulnerable to a major asset price correction that creates the conditions for a crisis? Global central banks have facilitated these elevated asset prices. A long series of global financial problems have now been passed through all parts of the financial system with most of these problems stacked up and now resting with central banks and Governments. The buildup of debt that this has created has forced central banks to keep yields at ultra-low levels, thus raising the prices of a variety of other global assets.”
TheNationalist on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 10:28 am
I’d buy you 3 grumpy bastards a beer. It would at least stop your moaning and constant attacks on each other for a minute. The passion you all have is great but a wee bit of calm self perspection wouldn’t hurt either.
Perhaps this is our fate. The once might Europeans( i’m an Englishman Cloggy and European Saxon etc) turning on each other as we face the global energy, population and pollution crisis without a workable solution ( or not able to implement the solution in time)
We are all a perfect example of the arguments I hear on a daily basis.
Look at the space station, a Russian rocket helping NASA and the European Space Agency upwards to incredible breakthroughs in space research.
I take solace in the progress of man and feel for you guys with your conflicts so typical of man.
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 10:37 am
I wouldn’t take this cafe brawl too serious, Nationalist. Tomorrow we will be buying each other a virtual beer.
With this brawl you get at least a good insight in how others from a different “body politique” really think, beyond politeness and diplomacy.
There is no real energy problem that can’t be solved.
The real threat is geopolitical transformation, massive migration and the threat of war.
For our kind, there can only be one solution, namely of a Commonwealth of European peoples, worldwide, including Russia.
Davy is not quite ready for that as he likes to flirt with the idea he can have it all on his terms, although he won’t admit it.
TheNationalist on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 10:37 am
*or self reflection
fmr-paultard on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 10:43 am
nazi tard. what a genius. in the same breath you criticize teh euro, in another you want “commonwealth”.
i’m honestly perplexed. isn’t the russians subhuman? what’s changed? again, another perplexing point.
fmr-paultard on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 10:45 am
but that’s good that there’s such a socialist euro commonwealth. good for america.
fmr-paultard on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 10:48 am
what a workable euro commonwealth when russia just turn off gas to clients depending how putin feels that day. or invading neighbors.
drafting a commonwealth euro agreement isn’t that hard but getting anything tangible out of it is hard.
and duterte still receiving us aid for fighting islamic insurgents
TheNationalist on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 10:53 am
Exactly Cloggie, and as old Trumpy said at the U.N he sees a future of independant countries and people helping themselves and their culture.
For European countries this undoubtedly means stopping the refugee invasion from the South and that cockroach Erdogan’s Turkey.
I have never undertood the obsession with population growth if they are serious about emission reductions. It certainly makes it harder for everyone else.
Mind you here in Oz we are experiencing a doubling in prices for things like natural gas.
Maybe this will allow 400,000 extra people into the country per annum, by demand destruction and forcing millions of us into energy poverty.
As Makati can proove, energy poverty is often ‘greener’ in terms of emissions per capita but it takes money to deal with the leftovers of our industrial society. Sadly in the Phillipines they deal with mountains of toxic waste and live on these garbage piles with no protection, even for the kids.
Boat on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 11:01 am
The world has been waiting for Russia, China etc to become more civilized and join the Commonwealth of free trading. A few of you heathens need to learn to treat women and minorities better. That and give up the idea of more territory.
fmr-paultard on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 12:07 pm
The world has been waiting for Russia, China etc
yep boat. let eurotard have them.
Apneaman on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 12:31 pm
clog, here’s some more brown people you can thank.
Much ado about nothing: ancient Indian text contains earliest zero symbol
Exclusive: one of the greatest conceptual breakthroughs in mathematics has been traced to the Bakhshali manuscript, dating from the 3rd or 4th century
“But the moment that the absence of stuff became zero, a number in its own right, is regarded as one of the greatest breakthroughs in the history of mathematics.”
“The Europeans, even when it was introduced to them, were like ‘Why would we need a number for nothing?’” said Du Sautoy. “It’s a very abstract leap.”
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/sep/14/much-ado-about-nothing-ancient-indian-text-contains-earliest-zero-symbol
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 12:54 pm
clog, here’s some more brown people you can thank. Much ado about nothing: ancient Indian text contains earliest zero symbol
Exclusive: one of the greatest conceptual breakthroughs in mathematics has been traced to the Bakhshali manuscript, dating from the 3rd or 4th century “But the moment that the absence of stuff became zero, a number in its own right, is regarded as one of the greatest breakthroughs in the history of mathematics.”
How do you know “brown people” invented the zero? It is just the oldest document available. But perhaps the invention dates from a time when the Aryans ruled over India.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedic_period
What do you know? I know that your tribe wants to use “brown people” to wipe us out demographically, so you tribe not just rules America, but the rest of the world as well.
http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/
(Exactly like in WW1 and WW2)
A project that will fail majestically btw. Support for this project by the likes of boat, ghung, Davy and Sissifuss will absolutely not suffice. The world is going to wipe its a** with the intentions of Washington and in less than a decade Washington and your tribe will be minced meat.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/nintchdbpict000001561749.jpg?strip=all&w=960
How is that for a zero?
MASTERMIND on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 1:08 pm
Trump has turned into a raging neocon globalist at the UN. North Korea, Syria, Iran, Venezuela are all on his hit list…
Sissyfuss on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 1:51 pm
Now see here, Clogostomybag, (that one’s for you Appman,) I have worked with the developing disabled in a sheltered work shop and they can be some of the most sincere and earnest people you’ll ever meet. I have a warm spot for fmr savanttard and his cerebral meanderings whereas your venal vomit of verbosity leaves me reaching for a antacid and a copy of your atrocious reprehensible autobiography, “Mein Dummkopf.”
MASTERMIND on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 1:53 pm
It Will Take 131 Years To Replace Oil, And We’ve Only Got 2 (Malyshkina 2010)
http://www.businessinsider.com/131-years-to-replace-oil-2010-11
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100730q
____________________________________________ on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 2:12 pm
Hey fagtards.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/09/18/immediacy-threat-climate-change-exaggerated-faulty-models/
Ain’t I’ve been saying?
Dredd on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 2:27 pm
Same with bourgeois scientific values (On The More Robust Sea Level Computation Techniques – 2).
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 2:31 pm
I have worked with the developing disabled in a sheltered work shop and they can be some of the most sincere and earnest people you’ll ever meet. I have a warm spot for fmr savanttard and his cerebral meanderings
So you are diagnosing that the tard is mentally disabled and not a junk or drunk? In contrast to you I don’t get a warm and fuzzy feeling when I hear him rambling about killing Russians in Siberia when he wants to send US women over to conquer Siberia for the US. My fear is that there are quite a lot of these incalculable fools in the US having the same thoughts.
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 2:48 pm
Trump has turned into a raging neocon globalist at the UN. North Korea, Syria, Iran, Venezuela are all on his hit list…
The Swamp has drained Trump. Which “Swamp” exactly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw_v3hqtCl0
[11:57 – 15:45]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRg7xvWyYog
“This stranglehold has got to be broken or this country is going to go down the drain!”
That was 1972. Now we are 45 years later and the stranglehold has not been broken and the country will go down the drain because of it. If they can reign in Trump, they can reign in anybody.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GySM7j00dB4
Either European America revolts or they are finished under a Mark Faceberg presidency, who will ensure that this occupational hazard called Trump will never happen again.
I think they will revolt.
onlooker on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 4:02 pm
I think we know who the “new” axis of evil is as Trump was pretty blunt in naming Iran, N.Korea and Venezuela. They say that dogs that bark a lot don’t bite. We shall see. Pass the popcorn
deadlykillerbeaz on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:13 pm
There are too many people, so nuclear annihilation would be welcomed.
The number of humans needs to be reduced to a sustainable level, 500,000,000 would work out about right.
7,000,000,000 can die and nobody will miss them.
DerHundistlos on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 6:40 pm
No, no, no. Dr. Drax in “Moonraker” had the perfect solution for paring down population numbers and replacing with a more enlightened human 2.0 version, until James Bond and the Americans fucked up everything.
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 6:43 pm
And the debate goes on. All extremes represented on this board and that is a good thing. You get a real time view of the world by observing the thoughts and feelings of people from all over the world and the extremes. You also get to see education levels and experience, or lack of, as well as the obvious imperial brainwashing. Interesting times.
I put down the empire every chance I get because its fall is the only way we can end it’s plundering and killing and put Americans in their place. They need to live on the ~4% of the world’s resources that is their share (not 25%+) and leave the rest to others. The Great Leveling is well underway.
And, yes, I am an American by birth, but I don’t have to remain an American in thought just as I was born into a Protestant family but do not have to believe in a god. We all have choices. I made mine and am enjoying every minute of it. I’m prepared. Are you?
Boat on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 9:43 pm
Clog,
I know that your tribe wants to use “brown people” to wipe us out demographically,
“Support for this project by the likes of boat”
clog, clog, clog, several times, (apparently in vain) I have explained all immigration is bad including white and brown. Sustainability has been one of my talking points since the eighties. Overpopulation is the enemy of sustainability. Your doing a greggiet, mak end around. Stop it. We have to much disinformation the way it is.
Apneaman on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 10:22 pm
Gender benders are obviously the greatest challenge facing humanity. I only wish we could spend more time analyzing them. It’s just so damn important. Keep fighting the good fight old Kunt.
The 6th extinction is man made
Previous extinctions were often linked to asteroids or volcanoes, but this one is man made.
Species are disappearing up to 114 times more quickly than they normally do between mass extinctions.
http://ridgetimes.co.za/97810/enviro-monday-6th-mass-extinction-way/
Apneaman on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 10:37 pm
US breaks ground for new permanent base in Israel
“Gronski said the planned base “signifies the strong bond” that exists between the United States and Israel.
“This life support area represents the first ever stationing of a U.S. Army unit on Israeli soil,” he said. “The U.S. and Israel have long planned together, exercised together, trained together. And now, with the opening of this site, these crucial interactions will occur every day. We’ll have Israeli airmen, US soldiers living and working side by side.”
http://bit.ly/2jIOLPB
GregT on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 10:42 pm
“Overpopulation is the enemy of sustainability.”
Overpopulation is a planetary problem Boat, not a local problem. Mankind does not have another planet to migrate to. Everyone will be affected, globally.
Apneaman on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 10:53 pm
We Have No Choice
“But let’s be real — there isn’t going to be and never has been a “major shift in thinking” of the type needed to avoid the global collapse of our industrial economic system, runaway climate change, or any of the other dangerous trajectories we are now on. Our thinking is biologically and culturally conditioned; it is beyond our control.”
“So here I’ll make another outrageous statement: Adulthood is the process of pretending to know, to have our act together, and to be in control of ourselves.”
http://howtosavetheworld.ca/2017/09/15/we-have-no-choice/
Boat on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 11:39 pm
ape,
“But let’s be real — there isn’t going to be and never has been a “major shift in thinking” of the type needed to avoid”….
major destruction and disruption.
No one on earth knows the future and human reaction to major destruction and disruption. No one on earth knows the extent of future destruction.
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 11:46 pm
“Over the course of my lifetime, America has become an infantile country.”
“So the Great American Democracy, The Morally Pure Country, is actually a cover for the profits and power of the military/security complex.
What is exceptional about America is the size of the corruption and evil in the government and in the private interest groups that control the government.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-19/paul-craig-roberts-exhorts-whatever-happened-america
“(American) People can no longer think or reason. There seems to be no rational component in their brain, just emotion set into action by fuse-lighting words.”
That last part describes someone on this board perfectly. LOL
Apneaman on Wed, 20th Sep 2017 12:39 am
No boat, no one “knows”, but it is not unreasonable to extrapolate. I did it over a year ago when I told you that Houston got lucky with hurricane Ike and there was a good chance Houston would get nailed someday by an AGW jacked hurricane. My guess was not because I shook the Magic8 ball. It was based on my understanding of physics and chemistry as applied by climate science and Houston’s weather patterns. Do you really believe that this civilization and your country are going to ‘turn it around’? It would be the first time ever. Think planetary physics is going to take a rest or stop? You know there is a long line of dead civilizations behind us and we know many of the mistakes the elites of yester year made. This civilizations overlords are making them too, but on a much grander scale. How do you like the odds? Don’t forget we is capitalists and that means the capital supersedes all else. Capitalist high priests, economists, claim that the ‘free market’ will solve all problems. They better get a move on.
Too few antibiotics in pipeline to tackle global drug-resistance crisis, WHO warns
Nowhere near enough new drugs are currently in development says report, which calls for urgent investment and responsible use of existing antibiotics
“Among the alarming diseases that are increasing and spreading is multi-drug resistant tuberculosis (TB), which requires treatment lasting between nine and 20 months. There are 250,000 deaths a year from drug-resistant TB and only 52% of patients globally are successfully treated. But only two new antibiotics for the disease have reached the market in 70 years.”
“But new drugs will not be enough, says the WHO. Unless they are sparingly used, resistance will build to the new drugs as well.”
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/sep/19/too-few-antibiotics-in-pipeline-to-tackle-global-drug-resistance-crisis-who-warns
San Diego Hepatitis Outbreak: ‘Unprecedented Situation’ May Last 6 Months, Officials Say
“The hepatitis A outbreak plaguing San Diego has already taken the lives of 16 individuals, and an additional two deaths are under investigation. The virus—which has sickened hundreds of people since last November—may continue for six more months”
http://www.newsweek.com/san-diego-hepatitis-outbreak-unprecedented-situation-may-last-6-months-667826
Hepatitis A outbreak hits Los Angeles after 2 cases confirmed
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hepatitis-a-outbreak-los-angeles-county/
Looks like decline to me boat, but you go ahead and call it a one off or whatever it takes to feel better. I understand.
Cloggie on Wed, 20th Sep 2017 1:56 am
“But let’s be real — there isn’t going to be and never has been a “major shift in thinking” of the type needed to avoid the global collapse of our industrial economic system, runaway climate change, or any of the other dangerous trajectories we are now on. Our thinking is biologically and culturally conditioned; it is beyond our control.”
Really?
You will have great difficulty than explaining this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_of_Rome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Agreement
Cloggie on Wed, 20th Sep 2017 2:09 am
“(American) People can no longer think or reason. There seems to be no rational component in their brain, just emotion set into action by fuse-lighting words.”
That last part describes someone on this board perfectly. LOL
I have another one in mind: former paultard.
I’m afraid his sense of US entitlement, the complete lack of restraint in the application of violence, the standard US mode of operation: call somebody a “Nazi” and already they have created the pretext to go on a murdering spree. Yesterday same story with the Trumpet. Standing in the UN, threatening the complete destruction of a country, which would lead to millions of deaths (that’s not to say that NK is not a problem, but it can only be solved by reaching an agreement with China about the future of Korea, with the US making sacrifices and retreat from Korea for ever… and that is not going to happen. US foreign policy is firmly back again in (((neocon))) hands).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRlatDWqh0o
Cloggie on Wed, 20th Sep 2017 2:36 am
“Support for this project by the likes of boat”
clog, clog, clog, several times, (apparently in vain) I have explained all immigration is bad including white and brown. Sustainability has been one of my talking points since the eighties. Overpopulation is the enemy of sustainability. Your doing a greggiet, mak end around. Stop it. We have to much disinformation the way it is.
If you reread my post, this time slowly, you will verify for yourself that I was talking about the imperial project, no immigration.
Boat on Wed, 20th Sep 2017 2:42 am
clog,
The redhead cheeto is just talking like the black haired and his father talked for decades. Trump is losing credibility but N Korea has had none for years. China is probably out of the N Korea influence business because the black haired cheeto is not interested in talk.
I would guess S Korea has the final say on war since millions of their own are at risk. I could be wrong, whatever the outcome, N Korea will be separated from their nukes. If not 20 other countries will want them.
Back in Neocon’s hands? You mean the left Jew hand to the right Jew hand?
Cloggie on Wed, 20th Sep 2017 3:10 am
Back in Neocon’s hands? You mean the left Jew hand to the right Jew hand?
There is no such thing as a “right-wing Jew”. “Right-wing” in the European sense: nationalist. They are all natural born commies. Neocons all identify with Trotsky:
http://www.toqonline.com/archives/v4n2/TOQv4n2MacDonald.pdf
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j061303.html
And it is irrelevant if they vote Reps or Dems. Traditionally they voted Dems. But under Reagan, Dick Cheney opened the door for the neocons, so your “red state Jews”.lol could subvert the Republican party as well.
Now they control the entire US political spectrum.
I would guess S Korea has the final say on war since millions of their own are at risk. I could be wrong, whatever the outcome, N Korea will be separated from their nukes. If not 20 other countries will want them.
SK has nothing to say. It is the US and China only who decide. If the US ans China work out an agreement, Kim is toast.
That agreement should be: a unified, demilitarized, capitalist, democratic Korea. US troops withdrawn. Neutral, “block-free status”.
If the North-Korean population learn that they can escape from poverty by uniting with the South you can hope for an uprising from within. That’s the only way to avoid disaster.
But it is unlikely that the neocons, who will never stop pursuing global empire until they are deposed the hard way, will go along with withdrawing from SE-Asia.
Boat on Wed, 20th Sep 2017 3:36 am
clog,
I don’t know the Jews in my area but stats say there are around 63,000 out of 6.4 million in the greater area. I have no fear. lol
Davy on Wed, 20th Sep 2017 5:51 am
“Overpopulation is a planetary problem Boat, not a local problem. Mankind does not have another planet to migrate to. Everyone will be affected, globally.”
Overpopulation is both a local and planetary problem.
Davy on Wed, 20th Sep 2017 7:45 am
“Finnish Politician Tells Women ‘Be Patriotic, Have More Babies’ As Birth Rates Crashes To 150 Year Lows”
http://tinyurl.com/ycmkpjdx
“The birth rate has been falling steadily since the start of the decade, and there’s little to suggest a reversal in the trend. Demographics are a concern across the developed world, of course. But they are particularly problematic for countries with a generous welfare state, since they endanger its long-term survival.”
“We have a large public sector and the system needs taxpayers in the future.”
“Offering generous parental leave and one of the best education system in the world doesn’t seem to be working either. Reversing the modern idea that it’s ok not to have kids is impracticable. Opening the doors to immigrants is a political no-go area (Prime Minister Juha Sipila’s center-right government relies on the support of nationalist lawmakers). The leader of the opposition Social Democrats, Antti Rinne, caused a stir in August when he urged women to fulfill their patriotic duty and have more babies.”
Davy on Wed, 20th Sep 2017 7:45 am
The above article brings up a conundrum of population and economics. We need to have economist that are thinking about how we can adapt to lower populations and not complain about them. Along with demand management we need population controls. In many places they need to be draconian for at least a generation. Ideally we would lower economic activity by a one third and skip a generation of reproduction and then only allow a managed and permitted reproduction. The one third represent the unneeded poor lifestyles and overconsumption. So as you see in the above article not only do we have problem with a country having low replacement we are not acknowledging the need for demand and population management.
The status quo of a confusion of global nations of different ideologies and persuasions would never agree to demand and population management. Yet, this is likely the least painful path forward. What is also inconvenient is that demand and population controlled world or region would have consequences. This type of activity would not adapt to a status quo world of market based capitalism of democratic free choice in a basis of individual rights. If you end the status quo of globalism with just-in-time production and distribution along with the high liquidity of global yield seeking financialization you will surely see a significant supply drop. That will translate into a demand drop because affluence must drop. That demand drop may sound like a success to some but remember random unmanaged economic decline will involve dysfunctional networks, economic abandonment, and irrational choices. These entropic conditions happen because decay is partially random and turbulent.
We keep hearing from the cornucopians that demand is fine and we have plenty of supply because of innovation and substitution but for how long? They also do not acknowledge the current state of affairs with managed macro financialization. We have huge debts and unfunded liabilities from unrealistic human arrangements and built up huge malinvestment. We have not allowed a cleaning from a a strong recession in decades. The unrealistic human arrangements are for example pensions that reflect a fantasy affluent future of continued heady growth. That is just one of many examples. The malinvestment is an extend and pretend of bad debt and the assumption of a high standard of growth will cover all debt good and bad supporting future growth. The cornucopians and techno optimist fail to see at some point this growth based system will finally hit a force of decline or stagnation and this will likely shock a normality threshold of stability. This will likely be a break to a lower economic activity level. This may not just be a drop it might be a chaotic nonlinear drop.
We have a macro existential situation of the inability of managing our destiny. We are self-organizing as a cooperative competitive group of nations with multiple different selfish motives in a game of economic survival with both public and privative games of advancement. Nature will be the one to limit us and when those limits occur demand destruction and chaotic decay will likely result. How long will the efforts of techno optimism of innovation and substitution extend the status quo? How far can technology advance and with the all-important condition of scaling. Will our economy allow technological advancement to scale? How long can population continue to grow? Can we have mass deaths in parts of the world and not affect the integrity of the whole system.
All this is a conundrum because it is clear all we are good at as a modern cooperative competitive people in tweaking the status quo for public and private satisfaction. Yet, what we need is draconian demand and population management. The demand and population management we need may be too much to prevent a serious systematic breakage. Decline and decay may be baked in. Cornucopian techno optimist claim we will power through all this but that is just their narrative. No one knows how this will work out but one thing is certain all civilizations in the past have collapsed so that is one metric. We are showing every indication of planetary destruction because of modernism and overpopulation. That should be humbling and sobering.