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A very brave law professor at the University of Pennsylvania, named Amy Wax has published the astounding argument that human beings in America would benefit from adopting “bourgeois values” and behaving accordingly. Bourgeois (Boozh-wah, for the underspeeched) may be an unfortunate term-of-art, since it came to be used as a pejorative back in the old hippie days — something that Ms. Wax might remember, since she is a Baby Boomer — but what else might you call this bundle of traditional values: honesty, fidelity, thrift, temperance, punctuality, fortitude, gratitude, dedication, kindness, loyalty, et cetera?
A glance at Amy Wax’s credentials might induce a head-snap.
Amy Laura Wax received a B.S. summa cum laude in molecular biophysics and biochemistry from Yale in 1975. She was then a Marshall Scholar in Philosophy, Physiology, and Psychology at Somerville College at Oxford University. She earned an M.D. from Harvard Medical School in 1981, training as a neurologist, and received a J.D. from Columbia in 1987, where she was an editor of the Law Review. She was a Law Clerk to the Honorable Abner J. Mikva, U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit from 1987-88. From 1988-94, she served as Assistant to the Office of the Solicitor General in the U.S. Department of Justice, where she argued 15 cases before the United States Supreme Court. Wax was a member of the Legal Affairs Committee, American Academy of Neurology from 1986-1992. In 1994, she joined the faculty of UVA [U. of Virginia]. She taught courses in civil procedure, labor law, and poverty law and welfare policy. She became Class of 1948 Professor of Scholarly Research in Law from 2000-01. After becoming a visiting professor to Penn Law School in 2000, she joined its faculty in 2001.
By some miracle, she didn’t end up a professor of Intersectional Gender Justice. Of course, the Social Justice commissars around the country regard her as just another neo-Nazi punk committing violence-through-speech against the ethno-sexual minorities who seek to throw off the shackles of Cis-White Privilege oppression. In an op-ed essay in the Philadelphia Inquirer (co-authored with Larry Alexander of the University of San Diego School of Law) titled Paying the Price for Breakdown of the Country’s Bourgeois Culture, Wax argued that “the single-parent, anti-social habits, prevalent among some working-class whites, the anti ‘acting white’ rap culture of inner-city blacks” and the “anti-assimilation ideas gaining ground among some Hispanic immigrants” are not suited to a First-World 21st Century Environment.
The casual observer (from Mars) might take all that as self-evident, but it’s a hard sell nowadays, especially in Ivory Towerville, where, supposedly, the rectified essences of abiding human intelligence are said to dwell. That super-refined scholarly nation-within–a-nation is also mostly walled off from the more unappetizing realities of what an American-style First-World 21st Century Environment actually is. In fact, that very “environment” is mostly characterized by a breakdown of just about everything that might promote the formerly eternal verities. It has been accompanied move-for-move by a breakdown in economic relations that leaves a big chunk of the national demographic peon-ized, bereft of work that is either meaningful or pays enough to support a family, and places them at the mercy (actually, there is no mercy) of gigantic, dishonest, avaricious companies and public institutions driven by stupid crypto-religious ideologies.
Oddly, the personal economic calamity represented by that trend is mirrored on the Ivy League campuses where a tiny elite cadre of tenured professors enjoys immunity from both impoverishment and real critical thinking, while an ever-expanding corps of serf-like adjunct teachers does all the heavy-lifting in the classrooms and struggles to pay the light bill — and a new breed of diversity deans and other administrative hierophants feeds gluttonously at the trough of the college loan racket.
The main criticism of Amy Wax’s prescription for cultural improvement is that it’s simply not possible to go back to the economically stable world of the 1950s that supported the roster of human virtues she wants to bring back online. It may be so, alas, but that still doesn’t obviate the basic value of behavioral norms. And deep down in their dark Gnostic hearts, the Social Justice Commissariat must agree. Otherwise, why would they be promoting so strenuously the exemplary earnest behavior of the DACA “Dreamers.”
Amy Wax was hammered by her colleagues at the Penn Law School for daring to express these ideas. More than half of the law faculty signed an “open letter” of censorious opprobrium against her. They “categorically rejected” her arguments without offering any counter-arguments. The law school’s chapter of the Lawyer’s Guild is maneuvering to get her fired from her teaching duties. That’s how we roll now in Witch Hunt Nation. I think Amy Wax has the fortitude to get through this. But will the universities ever recover?
165 Comments on "Kunstler: Pushback"
makati1 on Mon, 18th Sep 2017 6:12 pm
“They “categorically rejected” her arguments without offering any counter-arguments.”
Sounds like some here. The FSofA is toast. Between being the world’s “YUGEST” DEBTOR NATION by far and governed by the most immoral, insane greedy pack of worthless humans its fate is sealed. Only the timeline is not fixed, at this point, but it cannot be long.
onlooker on Mon, 18th Sep 2017 6:21 pm
Yes, I agree. What really bought down this nation is not the pychos who make the decisions and plan their diabolical schemes. No, what did it was all of us on this country who over the course of decades upon decades allowed this country to be subsumed to hedonism, greed and selfishness and some of us became personifications of that. And so did not care what was done in our name overseas as long as we got ours.
makati1 on Mon, 18th Sep 2017 7:02 pm
Onlooker, I totally agree. We allowed it to happen and must now suffer the consequences. When I was born, there were about 140 million Americans. Now, there are 325 million. Over those years, greed spread like a virus across the US and, thru capitalism and the US media, the world. Now everyone wants to live the “American Dream” that never existed.
I see the economic end coming and hope it is still a few years away. But, everyday, current events seem to push it ever faster towards now. We shall see.
onlooker on Mon, 18th Sep 2017 7:12 pm
Mak, didn’t the Romans act the same way and turn their gaze away from the atrocities committed in their name and so with all citizens of Empires. It is ultimately part of human nature sadly.
deadlykillerbeaz on Mon, 18th Sep 2017 7:28 pm
I’d tell the law professors to go to hell.
makati1 on Mon, 18th Sep 2017 7:45 pm
Onlooker, Yes, I am sure it was that way then also, and for the same reason. Greed. As long as the goodies flowed to them, they didn’t care what was down to get them. And the Roman empire is history for the same reason the the US empire will soon be. Greed. We never learn.
Duncan Idaho on Mon, 18th Sep 2017 9:44 pm
Identity politics is killing what is left of the Left in the US.
We need some health anarchism.
Sissyfuss on Mon, 18th Sep 2017 10:37 pm
Well, Kuntski never used his well worn phrase of racketeering in this piece but the content is replete with its consequences. The educational system is just another racket that suckers the proles and enriches the bourgeoisie.
makati1 on Mon, 18th Sep 2017 11:28 pm
“”We’re run by the Pentagon, we’re run by Madison Avenue, we’re run by television, and as long as we accept those things and don’t revolt we’ll have to go along with the stream to the eventual avalanche…. As long as we go out and buy stuff, we’re at their mercy… We all live in a little Village. Your Village may be different from other people’s Villages, but we are all prisoners.” – Patrick McGoohan
“The Village is a virtual prison disguised as a seaside paradise: its inhabitants have no true freedom, they cannot leave the Village, they are under constant surveillance, their movements are tracked by surveillance drones, and they are stripped of their individuality and identified only by numbers.”
“The American Police State, much like The Prisoner’s Village, is a metaphorical panopticon, a circular prison in which the inmates are monitored by a single watchman situated in a central tower. Because the inmates cannot see the watchman, they are unable to tell whether or not they are being watched at any given time and must proceed under the assumption that they are always being watched.”
“Nowhere to run and nowhere to hide: this is the new mantra of the architects of the police state and their corporate collaborators (Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Google, Instagram, etc.).”
“Consider that on any given day, the average American going about his daily business will be monitored, surveilled, spied on and tracked in more than 20 different ways, by both government and corporate eyes and ears.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-18/freedom-myth-we-are-all-prisoners-police-states-panopticon-village
A very concise picture of Police State America today. Glad I am no longer a prisoner there. The Ps is still a free country.
makati1 on Mon, 18th Sep 2017 11:34 pm
“Among the most enduring political images of the 20th century was the military junta. It was a group of grim-faced officers — usually three — who rose to control a state. The junta would tolerate civilian institutions that agreed to remain subservient, but in the end enforced its own will. As recently as a few decades ago, military juntas ruled important countries including Chile, Argentina, Turkey, and Greece.”
“These days the junta system is making a comeback in, of all places, Washington. Ultimate power to shape American foreign and security policy has fallen into the hands of three military men: General James Mattis, the secretary of defense; General John Kelly, President Trump’s chief of staff; and General H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser.”
“It is no great surprise that Trump has been drawn into the foreign policy mainstream; the same happened to President Obama early in his presidency. More ominous is that Trump has turned much of his power over to generals. Worst of all, many Americans find this reassuring. They are so disgusted by the corruption and shortsightedness of our political class that they turn to soldiers as an alternative.
It is a dangerous temptation.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-18/americas-slow-motion-military-coup
When all you have is a weapons system, every problem is a war. Are you prepared?
DerHundistlos on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 12:51 am
Greed is good // It’s Morning in America
Go Speed Racer on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 2:42 am
Yo… Makita power tools …
U mentioned 140 Million Americans back then,
and 325 Million Americans today.
Wrong. Today still 140 Million Americans,
same number, but there is also 185 Million
invaders and the lil’ welfare chilluns
with their welfare mammies. All paid for
by big momma Hillary Clinton’s black-windows government, from money they stole from me and you (not from the rich people, they don’t
pay taxes).
Now…. whats Trump gonna do about it?
So far… nothing.
Go Speed Racer on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 2:44 am
WOW.
Check out the upcoming INTERNET politically
correct CENSORSHIP.
Type in
Liberals will take away your woodstove
and type this in on GOOGLE.
all you will get is some articles about
Obama being misunderstood, and the EPA
really cares about your health, etc etc.
Then type it in, on BING.
There, you get all the toothless loggers and
hillbillies yelling to the tops of their
lungs how they hate the liberals taking
away their woodstoves.
So, Microsoft didn’t turn on the
Hillary-filtration system yet, and Google did. Soon they will refuse to post any
internet search results that aren’t
pre-approved messages from the DNC.
deadlykillerbeaz on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 2:49 am
Easy to see the problem, too many people.
Too many Europeons on the east and west coasts, and nuking both coasts would probably save humanity.
Besides, there are far too many arrogant shitheads.
A kill off of 90 percent of humans is a good plan and solution.
Oil will last a lot longer and oil is more important than people.
Humans are in the way and most need to go and be gone.
A new Reign of Terror needs to be implemented, especially in America.
Cheers!
Go Speed Racer on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 3:41 am
Will the reign of terror, be republican
or democrat? So far either has excellent
experience and qualifications for reigning
with terror.
Democrats – fill your country with Syrians.
Republicans – Emplwer the richest 50 men to seize all
wealtj, leaving everybody else their debt slaves.
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 3:42 am
GSR, they are ALL Americans…sorry to burst your paranoid bubble. That the non-whites will be the majority soon, is because Whites wanted money, not kids for the last two generations. AND, Whites were too good to do menial labor, like picking crops. They/you deserve what is coming.
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 3:45 am
GSR, it will be a military coup or an outright dictatorship. There are no Dems or Reps, only corporations and the military. You already live in a Police State. Fascist at that.
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 3:46 am
Well, Kuntski never used his well worn phrase of racketeering in this piece but the content is replete with its consequences. The educational system is just another racket that suckers the proles and enriches the bourgeoisie.
Comrade Sisteract always choses the side of the proles. And boy are there a lot of those in the US.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/07/detroit-illiteracy-nearly-half-education_n_858307.html
Nearly Half Of Detroit’s Adults Are Functionally Illiterate, Report Finds
According to Comrade Sisteract this is all the fault of the “bourgeoisie”, who on purpose keeps their proles dumb.
The alternative explanation, namely that the newly imported proles have little interest in getting properly ‘edumacated’ and prefer to listen to jungle rap, rather than read difficult books, that is a possibility Comrade Sisteract would love to ignore.
Don’t worry Siss, you will get your racial communism in some Godforsaken corner of the present day US. Somebody needs to feed the proles and that is were you and ghung come in.
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 3:52 am
mkat, sorry, to burst your paranoid bubble but your racist attitudes are not what most normal people choose to have. Most people respect other people because they are not into inflammatory generalized prejudiced on race, creed, and or nationality. You are part of the extremist mentality that is ripping apart the world currently. Hatred, division, and discontent are your tools to this end.
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 3:55 am
“Nearly Half Of Detroit’s Adults Are Functionally Illiterate, Report Finds”
Detroits population: 677,116
US population 326MIL
What’s your point anti-American Eurotard?
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 4:03 am
“Hellish Intensification — Maria’s Winds Jump 50 mph to CAT 5 Strength in Just 12 Hours”
http://tinyurl.com/y6vw4hmv
“As of this morning, Maria was a strong Category 2 Hurricane featuring 110 mph maximum sustained winds. Forecasters noted a potential for rapid intensification as the storm began to move over warmer than normal surface waters in the range of 29 degrees Celsius (84 to 85 degrees F) and as the atmospheric conditions became more favorable for storm development.”
“Like Irma and Harvey, Maria is tapping warmer than normal sea surface temperatures which is helping it to reach a higher peak intensity. This year, thunderstorms in the Inter-Tropical-Convergence-Zone (ITCZ) have been unusually intense. Strong thunderstorms in this region are basically the seeds that can grow into powerful tropical cyclones. So the larger, more energetic, more moisture-rich, and more numerous these storms, the higher potential that a strong hurricane will ultimately form once such systems enter the Tropical Atlantic. Warmer ocean surface temperatures are a direct upshot of human-caused climate change and there is some evidence that climate change is also increasing the intensity of the world’s most powerful thunderstorms — particularly over the Equatorial regions.”
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 4:11 am
What’s your point anti-American Eurotard?
That you can’t run a world empire with third world proles.
Heck, you can’t even hope to keep your country in one piece until 2024.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOMsCUeZ6rw
Have already your open ended plane ticket to Italy in your bottom drawer, just in case, so you can save your sorry ass, you loser?
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 4:34 am
So, you can run your empire because that is clear what you want. I get tired of your constant anti-American rancor. You cherry pick your scum because that is what is in your heart. Inside you is scum and you want to spread your scum on the world in a fantasy golden age of a Eurotard Empire. The US will last as long as your lazy ass continent I can assure you. We will likely have to save your stupid ass yet again sadly. What if I decide to go to New Zealand? One place I won’t go is to Holland with asswipe racist pigs like your sorry looser ass. How’s that for what lays in my bottom drawer?
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 4:43 am
World map literacy rate:
http://world.bymap.org/LiteracyRates.html
Russia: 99.7%
China: 96.4%
https://www.creditdonkey.com/illiteracy-in-america.html
USA: 14% illiterate or 32 million adults, that’s 50 Detroits.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabetisierung_(Lesef%C3%A4higkeit)
Worldwide literacy:
1970: 63%
2000: 79%
European countries were all above 99%, at least in 2007. Perhaps that in the meantime they have sunk a few notches, thanks to obliged membership of the anti-white multicult US empire, that needs to be torpedoed at the first opportunity, before nobody can read anymore.
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 4:48 am
Delusional Davy, who made you God? Who gave you perfect intelligence? Boat? LMAO.
I may disagree with Cloggie in some areas, but he is interesting to consider and he supports most of his ideas with refs and facts, not names and putdowns. I appreciate someone who can give rational views of the world, not Amerocentric bullshit.
The FSofA is going down and there are about 7 billion who will cheer it on. That plane ticket to Fascist-land will be no good when the borders close. Better get there and stand in line behind the millions that The US has bombed out of their homes so you can buy cheap gas. Turkey is going to open the flood gates and swamp Italy.
BTW: Hurricane Lee is right behind Maria. Looks like a bad year for the US East Coast. The first domino?
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 4:49 am
BTW: Davy, yes, I want to rip apart the toilet paper that is supporting the plunder and killing by the US around the world. I am prepared to weather that storm, are you? LOL
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 4:59 am
What is the matter the two old men on the board are pissed because someone called them out because of their scum? If you disrespect people you will be disrespected. I will give you both a taste of what you give me. You generalize and make conclusions based upon your personal emotional criteria. You are both extremist pigs.
Clog, we are doing fine and I assure you we don’t need your stupid Eurotard comments to make us better. We have seen what you Eurotards have done to the world. We are a 3rd world and 1st world country. We have always been this way. When have either of you old scum bags said anything positive about the US? This disqualifies the both of you in balance and objectivity. Both of you are an extremist blemish to this board.
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:04 am
So, you can run your empire because that is clear what you want.
I have already noticed that you can’t tell the difference between a voluntary confederation and a bombed and nuked together empire. You may be able to read, but understanding is a different matter.
I get tired of your constant anti-American rancor.
Why should I love an overlord that seeks my extinction by promoting mass immigration?
You cherry pick your scum because that is what is in your heart. Inside you is scum and you want to spread your scum on the world in a fantasy golden age of a Eurotard Empire.
European majority confederation, glad to be of help.
The US will last as long as your lazy ass continent I can assure you.
No it won’t, but you won’t take it from me. Perhaps from Buchanan:
https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-Superpower-Will-America-Survive-ebook/dp/B004YD36HS/ref=sr_1_1
We will likely have to save your stupid ass yet again sadly.
You never saved our asses, but instead used your 1941 29% global GDP to mass murder, rape, city bomb, nuke and Nuremberg-lie that emnpire of yours together. But your time is up, so much is certain. Enjoy the coming Balkanization. And when the deplorables around you in your refuge find out that you are a Washington loyalist and wannabee one-percenter, your days maybe numbered when violence will break out, Donbass/Yugoslavia style.
What if I decide to go to New Zealand?
Are you sure they will let you in? You are white after all and that is a sensitive, touchy topic in Anglosphere.
One place I won’t go is to Holland with asswipe racist pigs like your sorry looser ass.
Now that’s a relief!
How’s that for what lays in my bottom drawer?
You confided that Italy is your future refuge, because your Italian wife is offering that escape route to you, now that you have an Italian passport. Now some friendly prepping advice… Italy was destroyed by the Americans in their European imperialist colonization effort. I would not assume that you will be necessarily very welcome there. Perhaps now is the time to learn flawless Italian, so you can hide your identity, or rather for what passes as your identity, because in your book having a strong identity is “racist” and “extremist” and you are glad that you are not like that. When you are asked what your identity is, you never give an answer, because you don’t have any.
Italy is whiter than the Netherlands. The national soccer team is 90-100% white, this in contrast to Holland, Britain and most of all France. I clearly warn you NOT to use the “racism” accusation too much in polite company. They have little patience for US commies like you. Fascism (=authoritarian nationalism) is an Italian invention. Berlusconi made (friendly) jokes in public about the teint of Obama. Italians are probably the least political correct people in Western Europe.
Perhaps St. Louis East is a more suitable final destination for you. Saves on relocation costs.
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:04 am
“Misuse of statistics”
http://tinyurl.com/hxr5fef
“This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia’s quality standards. The specific problem is: this article is badly written, often unclear Please help improve this article if you can. (November 2014) (Learn how and when to remove this template message) Statistics are supposed to make something easier to understand but when used in a misleading fashion can trick the casual observer into believing something other than what the data shows. That is, a misuse of statistics occurs when a statistical argument asserts a falsehood. In some cases, the misuse may be accidental. In others, it is purposeful and for the gain of the perpetrator. When the statistical reason involved is false or misapplied, this constitutes a statistical fallacy. The false statistics trap can be quite damaging for the quest for knowledge. For example, in medical science, correcting a falsehood may take decades and cost lives. Misuses can be easy to fall into. Professional scientists, even mathematicians and professional statisticians, can be fooled by even some simple methods, even if they are careful to check everything. Scientists have been known to fool themselves with statistics due to lack of knowledge of probability theory and lack of standardization of their tests.”
BTW, do you expect me to trust statistics out of China?
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:09 am
clog, you worry about me and my country more than I do. What a piece of shit too. You have never been here. What do you know about my wife? She just go back from a month in Italy and was glad to get back to the farm. You see we have a life unlike you are your sagging easy chair you sit in for most of the day. A lazy old Eurotard man spreading extremism and self-love. Wack nut
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:18 am
Davy, “She just go back from a month in Italy and was glad to get back to the farm” tells me that even an Italian doesn’t like her home country now. Doesn’t sound like a great refuge when the FSofA slips into anarchy, Oh, that’s right, it is already there. Who is running the show in DC? Trumpet? The generals? The corporate lobbyists? Soros? I know it is NOT the ‘citizen’ serfs. Papers please! LOL
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:19 am
So much for the golden age:
“Bill Blain: “One Fund I Met Is Convinced Bond Markets Are On The Edge Of A Precipice”
http://tinyurl.com/ycwq5tat
“European sovereign debt remains a game of Pretend and Extend. Without the implied support of the ECB – WHO WOULD BUY? Seriously… If Europe’s sovereigns were businesses, they’d be well bust by now. Growth in parts of Southern Europe is past 3% – but it will need a number of years more of this kind of performance to correct the imbalances. Now… all across Europe, readers of the Morning Porridge will be shaking their heads and saying: “Blain is talking rubbish again.. European sovereigns are not going bust”. No they aren’t… but they are uninvestible at these levels without the Draghi put, and a real interest rates these countries will be consigned to Euro-Austerity purgatory. Something has to change. Without the Draghi promise who would willingly buy the debt of Sovereign Credits without access to their own currency printing presses, have been borrowing exclusively in someone else’s currency, have essentially unreformed economies at different levels of competitiveness and productivity to Germany, and are characterised by dodgy banking systems that have been encouraged to invest liquidity in the same dodgy sovereign credit debt..?”
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:22 am
Cloggie, us “two old men” have more on the ball than some goat herd in the hills of Missouri who has delusions and a fatal case of “patriotism” for his dying country. We may not live in the best of places, but they are way out ahead of the FSofA.
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:23 am
“tells me that even an Italian doesn’t like her home country now.”
Stupid old man that is not what I said. She was glad to get back to the farm because we have a farm not a fantasy farm like you talk about. She loves Italy and it is a wonderful place. Get a grip we are doing fine. Things are a mess and always have been a mess. We will do the best we can within a deteriorating world in which you two stupid old senile men live in also. If both of you would get out of your easy chairs you might see the world is not only in your head and computer screen. There is a real world out there.
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:29 am
BTW: Davy, we don’t say anything good aobut the FSofA because there is nothing ‘good’ about it these days.
“Freedom Is A Myth: We Are All Prisoners Of The Police State’s Panopticon Village”
“America’s Slow-Motion Military Coup”
“In Florida, You Can’t Use Your Own Solar Panels In A Crisis”
“Is The US State Department Waging “Open War” On The White House?”
“Kentucky Budget Director Admits Pension Underfunding Would Double If “Realistic Discount Rates” Used”
“‘Chapter 22’ Bankruptcy Filings Increasingly ‘En Vogue’ For Struggling Retail Sector”
“Toys “R” Us To File Bankruptcy Any Minute; Bonds Crash” Sorry kids! Mom’s broke!
“The Myths Of Recovery: Why American Households Aren’t Better Off”
http://www.zerohedge.com/
Waiting for that first domino…
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:30 am
Really Davy? Did I pull a ‘Davy’ and misuse a comment? My bad! LMAO
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:33 am
You dumbasses are trying to tell me how awful my place is and I am telling you asswipes to go screw yourselves. Many around here have good lives around here and this is also true elsewhere in the US. How is that for patriotism? Both you old men are cowards that can’t look in the mirror because you are failures. You have zero humility and sobriety. Your places are not perfect. There is something seriously wrong with you two. How is that for a delusional Missouri hill goat herder?
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:36 am
OOH, mkat pulls out his 10 Zerohedge headlines as his salvos of hate. Yea, mkat, your bad. Your intellectually laziness can’t even give some of the details of your links. That shows just how lazy and uninformed you are.
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:42 am
Davy, do you remember this bit of Missouri wisdom form Fri, 21st Jul 2017 5:47 am?
“You can’t know a people unless you live with them. You can know about them and relate that to yourself but you must live there to know.”
When have YOU been to the Ps or even The Netherlands? I have been to China and Japan a number of times. Where and how do you think I got Yuan and Yen? You cannot get it at foreign exchanges unless you are going there. Ditto for banks, But I do have a reasonable amount of both in my “preps”.
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:43 am
One place I won’t go is to Holland with asswipe racist pigs like your sorry looser ass.
You are so right Davy.
After all “Apartheid” is the 4th best known Dutch word, after 3. Santaclaus, 2. Yankee & 1. Dollar.
Holland is not for you, the country has too much self-respect and ethnic pride. You in contrast love to identify with the 1% and military collective with which you hope to terrorize and subdue the entire planet.
An enterprise which btw is going to fail majestically.
Enlisting for an Italian language course might not be such a bad idea after all.
Buona fortuna!
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:57 am
You dumbasses are trying to tell me how awful my place is
I can’t remember ever to have described Missouri as an “awful place”.
After all I am the pro-America guy here (1776-1900), where you in contrast are the pro-American Empire kinda guy, a subtle difference. Not sure if you take the hint.
After all, Holland had a big part in getting an independent America lifted of the ground:
https://www.amazon.com/First-Salute-View-American-Revolution-ebook/dp/B0053CSRDW/ref=sr_1_1
Our decisive help to the US cost us our great European power status, when fuming angry British took revenge in the Fourth Anglo-Dutch sea war, defeated us and we had to retreat in European 2nd tier status. Would have happened sooner or later anyway. Golden Centuries usually last a century (American Century likewise, but I digress)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvY8dQQI13Q
Kunstler has recommended Missouri as a refuge of first choice and I understand why.
But it absolutely will not be a suitable refuge for 1-percenters and vocal empire cheerleaders like you.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/nintchdbpict000001561749.jpg?strip=all&w=960
In 2017 Yugoslavs don’t exist anymore.
Likewise in 2030 Americans won’t exist either. Killed in 1965.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 5:58 am
Mkat, wack nut, I talk about number like population densities, GDP, and ecological statistics. I don’t say what the people say in the streets, mkat. Please dig out that reference, stupid. I take your extremist comments and give you basic statistical and quantitative comparisons to show that your place of refuge is not a nirvana. If you read my comments you will know that I have been to the Netherlands multiple times and I lived in Europe for several years on and off in the late 80’s early 90”s. Just like with you forgetting multiple times Hello is from Switzerland. You routinely comment on every country on the earth according to your agenda du jour as if you have the deepest of understandings of the people. You act like you understand the entire US population but have not been here but a handful of times in ten years IMA to a little town in PA.
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 6:06 am
“I can’t remember ever to have described Missouri as an “awful place”.
Dumbass, last I looked Missouri is a US state. Nearly every one of your geopolitical fantasy and revision pukes is anti-US and pro-Eurotard. So go screw yourself you stupid inward looking prejudiced Eurotard. Own some responsibility for who and what you are instead of being bitter old men passing blame and complain on others. The both of you do little more than talk down others and talk up yourselves. That is a disgusting habit of low-lifers. You are both old men with no life in the waning years so you attack others to lift up your sagging self-esteem, pathetic
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 6:34 am
You sound like a wounded animal, Davy.
Back to reality:
https://www.rt.com/news/403781-syrian-army-euphrates-crossing/
Syrian army crosses the Euphrates river. Will soon connect to Iraqi forces (dominated by the Shia).
In 2001, 3000 American citizens were killed on purpose to create a Pearl Harbor 2.0 shock that enabled the US deep state to find public support to invade Mesopotamia.
Between 2003-2017 a drama unfolded that was to turn out in a major US strategic defeat in the ME.
The plan was to add Afghanistan, Iraq and later Syria and even later Iran to the US empire, after they already had KSA, Jordan and Egypt (but lost Persia in 1980).
The opposite happened.
If Assad manages to connect to the Iraqi army, the Middle East will be cut in three pieces: Turkey in the north, the Shia Crescent in the middle…
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/crescent.jpg
…and KSA in the South, with Shia Houti insurgents in Yemen.
Turkey is slowly distancing itself from the West as well and won’t be tempted to let itself being up against Iran. KSA is a palace coup away from detaching itself from the US led West.
And then there is Europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sJaAwqiL3E
The former Stasi agent and unrepentant old school GDR commie Merkel is the last truly pro-US vassal in Europe. And hated by large parts of the German population for her insane migration policies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sJaAwqiL3E
And then there is the Heartland:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/nintchdbpict000001561749.jpg?strip=all&w=960
The true banner of conservative European America, where the Star-spangled banner is the progressive Yankee flag of the (((US empire))).
The Confederate flag has much more future than the Star-spangled banner.
tic-toc-tic-toc.
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 6:38 am
Davy, my family is in the US. Many of my friends are in the US. I know what is happening in what is left of the US. You have no idea how many times I have been there or when. If you think I post everything I do on the internet, you are a fool. I give the NSA as little info as possible, or at least, I make them work for it.
I am not about to give any particulars to someone so rabidly supportive of the NSA and all it’s police state cousins. I am still required, by law, to report my income to the IRS gestapo annually on a short form and a one page, four question, form to the SS every two years. All that tells them is that I am still alive, have zero taxable income and live somewhere in the Ps. A P.O.Box, basically. Whereas, they watch you shit and listen and record every keystroke and conversation you make for future use.
BTW: I give the headlines that says it all. Just cut and paste into a search engine if you are really interested in reading them, which I know you are not as they point out the ongoing collapse of America. So many informed articles. So little time. LOL
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 6:49 am
“You sound like a wounded animal, Davy.”
What does that make you because you just capitulated?
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 6:54 am
mkat, sure you do and sure you are. I think there is a lot of fantasy in that 75 year old mind or a better term, senility. I don’t care about your stupid life you selfishly stuff on this board daily. Quit being stuck on yourself and contribute some objectivity and balance to help all of us get by better. You are off you rocker and a blemish to this board with your narcissism and emotional agenda of hate.
makati1 on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 7:01 am
Davy, you are the delude one. Scared shitless that you will be trapped in the gulag when the SHTF. If Italy is such a good plan B, do it now. Tomorrow may be too late. Oh, I forgot, you cannot as you have to stay and defend your failing way of life against us “old men” who don’t give a damn about you or yours. Have you considered that you could do so from Italy? Oh, that’s right. Then you would be an “expat” just like me only you would be in just another frying pan. LOL
I suspect that if the moderators on this “board” didn’t want me here, I would be blocked. Obviously they don’t give a damn either.
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 7:05 am
The golden age may be tarnishing:
“Euro Tumbles On Report ECB Is “Concerned And Divided” Over End To QE”
http://tinyurl.com/yapd3ro9
“European Central Bank policymakers disagree on whether to set a definitive end-date for their money-printing programme when they meet in October, raising the chance that they will keep open at least the option of prolonging it again, six sources told Reuters. A stubbornly strong euro, with its dampening effect on inflation, is driving a rift among ECB policymakers, the sources on the ECB’s Governing Council with direct knowledge of its thinking said. The split is between ‘hawks’ — led by richer, northern countries such as Germany — who are ready to wind down the 2.3 trillion euros bond-purchase programme and ‘doves’ who simply want to reduce its monthly pace, the sources said. This is raising the likelihood that they will seek a compromise solution on Oct. 26, whereby any end-date for purchases would not be set in stone, or that they will put off part of the decision until December, the sources added. The main point of contention is the euro’s continued appreciation against major currencies, which is threatening to curb inflation in the euro zone by making its imports cheaper and exports dearer”
Davy on Tue, 19th Sep 2017 7:10 am
What’s da matter old man do I have you wetting your diaper? LMFAO I thought I was on your ignore list?
“I suspect that if the moderators on this “board” didn’t want me here, I would be blocked. Obviously they don’t give a damn either.”
I care and I will guarantee you don’t own the board. Consider me your personal moderator. I promise you reliable service.