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Kunstler: Fairy Tale
Am I imagining that Oprah Winfrey launched her presidential campaign last night at the Golden Globes Awards? Well, why not? Unlike the Golden Golem of Greatness, skulking fiery and furious in his lonesome White House tweet chamber, Americans of all identity persuasions love Oprah. Unlike the president, who attained “stable [for now] genius” status without ever reading a book, Oprah displays real curiosity about this vexing and wondrous world, and an eagerness to engage with it. Unlike the maestro of the janky Trump brand, with his penchant for serial bankruptcy and stiffing the help, Oprah appears capable of running a business empire.
Let’s face it: the Democratic Party has no other figure of gravitas on the bench. Everybody trusts Oprah, probably even more than the erstwhile Barack Obama, with his dogged allegiance to Wall Street and his fifty percent taint of innate white male cis-hetero patriarchical depravity. Oprah might be the Democratic Party’s last best hope before it collapses into the mausoleum of US political history, where the Whigs, Free Soilers, and Anti-Federalists lie a’moldering.
Politics in this land has failed in its effort to become show business, while show business is succeeding wildly in its attempt to replace politics. All Washington can produce these days is a succession of tedious irresolvable soap operas. Hollywood is enacting a grand moral drama of clear-cut heroines and villains, victims and oppressors, sticking to archetypal story-line of our lifetime: the campaign for freedom, equality, and decency. Show business loves the desert sunshine; politics is mired in the Potomac swamp. Oprah even has better hair than the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Oprah herself is an object lesson in the social and political themes that America dares not talk about: a person of humble origins who succeeded wildly in American life by signing onto a once-sturdy and now-fading common culture. In fact, Oprah probably embodies all that remains of American common culture, and the multitudes adore her for it. They are reassured to know that the binding verities still exist. She moves in a realm where blackness and whiteness are emphatically irrelevant — which is surely a relief to people of good will who are sick of race-hustling from all quarters. Though she has credibly acted plenty of sharecropper roles in the movies, Oprah speaks English beautifully and doesn’t apologize for moving up from the ghetto patois of her rough childhood. She may not write all her own material — such as Sunday’s Golden Globes speech that may live on like MLK’s I Have a Dream oration — but she delivers her message with conviction. And who knows, maybe she did compose all or part of it.
One upshot of this is that Oprah might be capable of squaring the circle of America’s black-white racial quandary, which Mr. Obama could not accomplish: namely, restoring the idea that we have more in common as countrymen (countrypersons?) than the artificial barriers of the cultural Marxists falsely insinuate; that skin color, ethnic origin, religious order, and gender do not define adequately what we can be in the world, and maybe we would be better off putting those things aside and just work earnestly to bring out the best in ourselves without excuses..
This country is dying to put its house order. I daresay this is true of the great majority including the immiserated flyover folks who got snookered by Mr. Trump, and the big city hipsters who are coming into their years of power in the awful dimming of American prospects, and maybe even some of the suits in the corporate C-suits who still possess tattered memories of high school civics. I’m not promoting Oprah for president, but just you watch: somebody will. It is going to happen. The country faces enormous problems and predicaments, and the one-man soap opera at the center of it all is doing nothing but sucking all of the oxygen out of the room, leaving everybody else to choke and strangle.
228 Comments on "Kunstler: Fairy Tale"
Makati1 on Tue, 9th Jan 2018 5:39 pm
“A greater share of Americans have more debt than money in the bank than at any point since 1962, according to Deutsche Bank economist Torsten Slok.
30.4% of US families have negative net worth despite the recovery in housing and the stock market.
Median net worth is below where it was in 1989.
Inflation adjusted, net worth may be the worst in history. $78,000 is not worth what it was in 1989, to say the least.”
https://www.themaven.net/mishtalk/economics/median-family-net-worth-under-1989-level-debt-to-money-worst-since-62-cwXTp9wGcEutEtpQXgNd0A
Slip slidin’ away…
Davy on Tue, 9th Jan 2018 5:43 pm
We will be OK mad kat. Times are getting hard but this is the case for all nations.
“Financial position of the United States”
https://tinyurl.com/y9ze75qo
“The financial position of the United States includes assets of at least $269.6 trillion (1576% of GDP) and debts of $145.8 trillion (852% of GDP) to produce a net worth of at least $123.8 trillion (723% of GDP) as of Q1 2014.”
MASTERMIND on Tue, 9th Jan 2018 6:02 pm
Davy
All you have to do is lay out the math and the fear factor is destroyed. The problem is leaders on the right keep claiming we are being flooded with tens of millions of immigrants every year. Look what clog claimed 30 million he said. When in reality it was 1.5 million. Its all scaremongering and the leaders on the right know their followers will never fact check their claims and do the research and math.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 9th Jan 2018 6:04 pm
Madkat
Themaven is your source? LOL Learn to vet your sources and stop spreading disinformation..You are the reason why old people shouldn’t have access to the internet!
MASTERMIND on Tue, 9th Jan 2018 6:23 pm
Madkat
The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11625406/The-world-is-drowning-in-debt-warns-Goldman-Sachs.html
‘WORSE THAN 2007’: Top Central Banker warns of looming wave of worldwide bankruptcies
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/davos/12108569/World-faces-wave-of-epic-debt-defaults-fears-central-bank-veteran.html
Global economic growth has peaked, says World Bank
https://www.ft.com/content/4b9e6190-f55e-11e7-88f7-5465a6ce1a00
Theedrich on Tue, 9th Jan 2018 10:41 pm
Ah yes. The first Negress president! Now all Whites can compete for her douche bag and advertize themselves as non-racist. Next, we can elect an Afroid hermaphrodite with limited English skills to keep us entertained. Ain’t all of these “firsts” wunnerful? The Swamp as Tinseltown. Since intelligence (a hideous trait invented by evil Whites) is now out of style, let’s put mongoloid idiots (colored, of course) from the ’hood in the nation’s cockpit. And, of course, eliminate all national borders as a way to punish Whites (especially the cis-hetero male half) for the color of their skin.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 9th Jan 2018 11:12 pm
Theo
you are just scared immigrants will out work your lazy fat white ass…Adapt or die!
MASTERMIND on Tue, 9th Jan 2018 11:43 pm
U.S. police killed 1,129 people in 2017, but that’s not the full body count
https://www.salon.com/2018/01/07/erica-garner-death-how-many-people-did-police-kill-in-2017/
Makati1 on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:13 am
MM, what will it take to get the fact that ‘world’ does NOT mean every area/country is the same?
You might want to check out this site and see what 2017 looked like. Notice the top countries are NOT American or Western European. In fact, you have to get down to #20 before it is not an Asian or African country.
Even the Ps (#13) is 6.7% growth vs the US (#135) at 2.2% in 2017.
http://statisticstimes.com/economy/countries-by-projected-gdp-growth.php
The ‘world drowning in debt’ is mostly the Western countries and their wannabees, not “the whole world”. You might wan to check out this site:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
The US is #1 by a country mile. With 98% of GDP or $18+ Trillion dollars owed.
Japan #7 at 70% of GDP or $3.5 Trillion…
China #13 at 13% of GDP or $1.6 Trillion …
Russia #21 at 40% of GDP or $540 Billion with a “B”.
…
Ps #55 at 25% of GDP or $75.5 Billion with a “B”.
Etc.
So, obviously MM, the “whole world” is NOT “drowning in debt”. Goldman Sachs is one of your masters and wants to feed you bullshit which you slurp up like caviar.
GregT on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:17 am
MM,
“Theo”, has a capacity that is at least twice of what your’s is.
If you choose to keep on playing, at least try to act like an adult, instead of an intellectually challenged spoiled teenager.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:22 am
Madkat
Its acutally worse than what those numbers say because they are not averaged out per person and adjusted for inflation. GDP PPP or per capita is though. the entire OECD is not really growing. And China has been lying about their numbers. They are headed for a misky moment according to the head of the bank of China. And China already got downgraded for debt. You dummy so it is the whole world. You think you know more than Goldman Sachs? How ignorant!
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:25 am
Greg
I knew you would stick up for theo..Just like you stick up for clog a holocaust denier and racist scumbag. Just be honest Greg you bugged out and left society because you hate so many people. You are an anti social bigot and you will I promise you get what you deserve. YOU CAN RUN POST COLLAPSE BUT YOU CANT HIDE! Thats called LOGIC!
Cloggie on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:30 am
Immigration to the EU-28 from non-member countries was 2.7 million in 2015.
Populism is rising everywhere as a consequence of that. Eastern-Europe takes nothing.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:30 am
Greg
You are a pathetic loser. And you can’t survive without fossil fuels. We both know that. I plan and staying and enjoying BAU with my friends and family and girlfriend as long as I can. And going out with the people! not hiding in the woods like a coward! With a bunch of uneducated hillbillies!
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:33 am
Clogg
The population of the EU 28 is around 500 million people. That isn’t even a .50% increase! once again you fail to do the math and resort to trying to scaremonger others with your anti migrant phobia! Once again its not migrants fault you are a loser!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_European_Union
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:34 am
OMG CLog Europe added .50% increase in migrants! OMG WHAT THE FUCK! I DONT KNOW HOW TO COUNT BECAUSE I AM SUCH AN UNEDUCATED MORON! The only people pissed off our unsophisticated people who don’t know how to do basic math.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:38 am
Clog and Math
OMG America is adding 0.24% more population of immigrants every year!
OMG Europe is adding .50% more population of immigrants every year!
Solar and Wind made up 1% of total world energy last year and soon it will provide 100 percent!
Do you see the problems here? You must be autistic clogg! You should put a picture on your profile of one of those blue squares! LOL
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:42 am
Theo
We are not scared you white trash imbreads! NO BORDERS! NO MASTERS! NO GODS!
Cloggie on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:44 am
I knew you would stick up for theo..Just like you stick up for clog a holocaust denier and racist scumbag. Just be honest Greg you bugged out and left society because you hate so many people. You are an anti social bigot and you will I promise you get what you deserve. YOU CAN RUN POST COLLAPSE BUT YOU CANT HIDE! Thats called LOGIC!
The good news for us Europeans is that the US is full of depressed trash like millimind, whose desperate opinions on energy are a clear reflection of his inner state. He instinctively knows that the old hegemonic role of the US will be over soon. That’s OK.
We in Europe are not going to abandon our former colony of 3 centuries but instead we are going to take over the lead within the alliance based on shear cultural, political, economic and technological weight. With Russia included (640 million or 700 million if Britain stays) and white nationalism rising in the US, that should be a piece of cake.
Do you see it coming, whitey?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahL-kFB0BvM
China needs to be contained. The rise of China will dictate the rest of the geopolitical alliances.
All we in Europe need to do is to wait for Davy and millimind to talk their own country in a depression and prepare it for a more modest geopolitical role. In the mean time we in Europe should set up a euro-army (purpose: intervention in North-America if things go terribly wrong there), build offshore wind turbines, do not let relations with Russia further deteriorate just because a few yapping political Americans like McCain insist we should. And signal to China we are ready to accept that country as a new superpower and that we intend to cooperate with country on an equal basis and together dominate geopolitics in the 21st century.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao5lGAiqfY8
Cloggie on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:45 am
We are not scared you white trash imbreads! NO BORDERS! NO MASTERS! NO GODS!
Can you reveal something about your own ancestry? When did you join Antifa/BLM?
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:47 am
CLogg
Youtube videos LOL. real sophisticated clog!
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:49 am
OMG
Clogg in 2k years migrants will conquer Europe this is a huge deal! Better be worried! Be scared! They are coming! coming fast!
GregT on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:50 am
“Greg
You are a pathetic loser. And you can’t survive without fossil fuels. We both know that. I plan and staying and enjoying BAU with my friends and family and girlfriend as long as I can. And going out with the people! not hiding in the woods like a coward! With a bunch of uneducated hillbillies!”
Good luck to you then MM. Try not to make too huge of a mess when you splatter those limited braincells of yours all over the place. Your friends, family, and girlfriend, in all likelihood won’t be overly pleased when they need to clean them up.
Us cowards, OTOH, will be just fine here hiding out in the woods. Like the uneducated coward hillbillies that we are. 🙂
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:51 am
Clog
Dont you get it your whole populist movement will go down in flames when the oil runs out here shortly! And the world economy collapses along with your government! Whoever the fuck is in control wont be anymore! populist or communist! Makes no difference! You will be to worried about finding some food to keep from starving and finding another stick to throw on the fire!
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:55 am
Greg
You dont think your government or other government knows where you are. And will come to take whatever you have stored when society collapses? They most likely have your whole location saved on their google earth account. They will throw your ass in a god damn cattle car just like they did the jews!
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 12:56 am
Greg
You wont be fine without fossil fuels. You will whiter and starve..You know that without oil there is no food!
Cloggie on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 1:01 am
Europe is different. Where in America everybody is a victim, 100 French women, including prominent actress Catherine Deneuve, protest against the #MeToo baloney that Oprah is pushing:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/nachrichten-am-morgen-die-news-in-echtzeit-a-1186166.html
Their motto: “”Hartnäckiges und ungeschicktes Flirten ist kein Delikt””
(Tenacious and clumsy flirting is NOT a crime.)
The idea that we should fill in three forms just to get some amour action started and get your back legally covered is killing said amour.
#MeToo creates a totalitarian society.
The rules are: keep trying and stop if you get a hard slap in the face.
Happy hunting.
Makati1 on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 1:02 am
MM, “You know that without oil there is no food!” Bullshit! The average Filipino uses TWO CUPS of oil per day. THAT is mostly used in buses, motorcycles, motorbikes, trucks, jeepneys, taxis and airline flights. Transportation of people, not food production.
Humans lived for hundreds of thousands of years without oil. Maybe the US will suffer as it is so oil dependent, but much of the world is not.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 1:04 am
MM
Two cups if everyone used oil but they don’t. Yes humans lived without oil but sorry Evolution doesn’t go backwards! And no amount of wishing and hoping will change that fact…
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 1:05 am
Madkat
You will get eaten when your peoples food runs out! And they are a scrappy bunch I am sure no doubt. Living in filth their whole lives. They wont mind getting their hands dirty on some old meat like yours!
Makati1 on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 1:06 am
MM, YOUR government knows where you live and you are in a convenient place to for them to “take care of you”. It will not have the resources, or interest in, trying to find some individual off the beaten track like Greg or I. We are going to be much safer than you by a long shot. LOL
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 1:06 am
Madkat
Your grand daughter is going to get fucked in her ass post collapse! The home boys will run a train on that bitch!
Cloggie on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 1:07 am
Solar and Wind made up 1% of total world energy last year and soon it will provide 100 percent!
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/scotland-wind-turbines-more-electricity-country-needs-four-days-renewable-energy-power-national-grid-a7517066.html
Scotland’s wind turbines provided more electricity than the country needed four days in a row
James Bond country Scotland leading the rest of the pack.
https://www.factinate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/hg.jpg
#Skyfall
Makati1 on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 1:08 am
There you go again MM,with your adolescent fantasy of a Mad Max world. YOU are the one who will be living in Hell. It is already heating up in your neighborhood, if you truly live in Chicago.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 1:08 am
Madkat
There would be no need to find me because I have nothing of value they want. Greg does though and a lot of it. He doesnt realize it because he didnt think his move through and now he is invested so he wont accept he made a dumb move.
GregT on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 1:10 am
MM,
The best thing that could happen to this world, is for the stupid humans such as yourself to simply die off.
Bring it on.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 1:18 am
Greg
Bring it on! Wow you sound real serious! I know all the stupid humans need to die and you uneducated hicks will rule the world. LOL now bring on the chaos, starvation, and radiation poisoning!
GregT on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 1:29 am
“I know all the stupid humans need to die and you uneducated hicks will rule the world.”
I had more going for me when I was 30 MM, then you will ever have in your entire life.
Bring on the chaos, starvation, and radiation poisoning!
Makati1 on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 2:50 am
Greg, You and I have forgotten more than MM will ever learn. Us “hicks” will be enjoying life long after he is gone. Arrogance, immaturity and stupidity seems to be the only ‘skills’ he has. Not much use to the tribe. He can only hope for an early, and painless death. Probably at his own hand.
He is correct in that he has nothing. But that will not save him. Slaves own nothing either. “Bend over boy!” may be the “thing” they want. lol
Davy on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 4:07 am
“take over the lead within the alliance based on shear cultural, political, economic and technological weight.”
Fantasy future without basis in reality. IOW a propaganda exercise.
“With Russia included (640 million or 700 million if Britain stays) and white nationalism rising in the US”
640MIL is a detriment. Europe has exceeded is carrying capacity significantly.
“China needs to be contained. The rise of China will dictate the rest of the geopolitical alliances.”
China is unraveling and we will see it in economic difficulty with a worse situation than Europe.
“All we in Europe need to do is to wait for Davy and millimind to talk their own country in a depression and prepare it for a more modest geopolitical role.”
Davy is talking about a world in an undulating economic plateau of growth and decline with significant malinvestment and economic stagflation. Europe is a prime example of this with its main economic support centered on central bank intervention. Further economic support is coming from global exports from northern Europe which are always will likely end when the global economy declines rapidly. Much of Europe is very sick economically especially the south. It is unclear if the EU can hold together despite the niedertalker. Davy welcomes a more modest role for the US. He wants to quit protecting the lazy Eurotards that should fend for themselves.
“In the mean time we in Europe should set up a euro-army (purpose: intervention in North-America if things go terribly wrong there), build offshore wind turbines, do not let relations with Russia further deteriorate”
Euro army is a fantasy. It is too much work for lazy Eurotards. We will sink your ships when you come to invade our country. LMFAO. Hitler once talked of invasion and you see where he ended up. Build many more wind turbines but beyond a point they may be malinvestment because there is so much more to it than wind turbines. I agree we all need to make peace with the Russians.
“signal to China we are ready to accept that country as a new superpower”
Dummy, this is main stream already what planet have you been living on?
Davy on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 4:10 am
“Try not to make too huge of a mess when you splatter those limited braincells of yours all over the place.”
Childish, mean and nasty talk from the board member who claims to be respectable and above childishness.
Davy on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 4:14 am
“The average Filipino uses TWO CUPS of oil per day. THAT is mostly used in buses, motorcycles, motorbikes, trucks, jeepneys, taxis and airline flights. Transportation of people, not food production.”
Mad kat, how do you think a small overpopulated Island feeds itself with 100MIL hungry mouths? Surely you don’t think oil does not play a part. This is just more of your intellectual lameness.
Davy on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 4:17 am
“It will not have the resources, or interest in, trying to find some individual off the beaten track like Greg or I.”
LOL, mad kat, you are going to have to hide in the jungle and try to avoid being a long pork addition to the local stew the hungry young filipino boys will be cooking up.
Davy on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 4:18 am
“I had more going for me when I was 30 MM, then you will ever have in your entire life.”
More bragging from the board braggert
“Bring on the chaos, starvation, and radiation poisoning!”
right grehg we realize you want that but mostly for Americans.
Davy on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 4:21 am
“He can only hope for an early, and painless death. Probably at his own hand.”
mad kat, being 75 you should be talking. You are at your life expectancy being in a 3rd world country with no health care or family to take care of you when you get sick.
“Bend over boy!” may be the “thing” they want. lol”
Is that what you tell the boyfriend. How is the roommate doing these days?
Davy on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 4:24 am
“Scotland’s wind turbines provided more electricity than the country needed four days in a row”
4 days? There are 365 days in a year. Tell me what Scotland did with the surplus? Looks more like it was not utilized properly indicating more problems to come without expensive infrastructure investments.
Davy on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 4:34 am
“Mass Migration: The European Commission’s New “Norm”
https://tinyurl.com/ybhh49gt
“The Commission, based in Brussels, is not elected but, according to EU treaties, it has a monopoly — yes, a monopoly — on initiating legislation at the European level. A Commissioner is an appointed bureaucrat, one for each member state — often a former top politician, now sidelined in his country of origin, therefore with very little democratic legitimacy.”
“First of all, many of the migrants are not qualified; and second, they receive social benefits so there is little or no incentive for them to work. Articles supporting the claims of the officials — that Europe needs more migrants in order to fund the healthcare and pensions of aging Europeans — neglect that this plan can only succeed IF the migrants work. These assumptions, therefore, appear to be based on ideological bias rather than scientific evidence.”
“The new norms, like the size of apples or the curvature of cucumbers, should, according to the European Commission, be determined by the European Commission. Migration will not be a question open for debate. It will be a “norm” determined by the Commission.”
Makati1 on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 4:39 am
Davy, oil does not play a significant part. How could it with only 1/20th the oil use of the US per capita?
(US = ~19,000,000 bbls/day/320M people vs Ps = <400,000 bbls/day/100M people.) Do the math.
Most farming is small family not corporate. You have never been in Asia and have zero knowledge of how things are done here. Zero.
Rice is a hand planted, hand harvested, hand processed crop. Fishing requires little oil if any. Ditto, Coconuts, bananas, cassava, etc. Everyone grows their own as much as possible. Even in the city, every empty spot has something to eat growing on it. Beans, squash, etc. Our condo has a number of small roof top gardens and it is a modern building of 1,000 residents.
This is NOT the US. Totally different mindset and culture. Self-sufficent.
Makati1 on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 4:50 am
Davy, my healthcare here is better then any I would have in the US police state and it is about 1/4 to 1/10 the cost. That is IF I ever need it. I have the resources to pay, if it comes to that, but not likely. I did not abuse my body with over eating, tobacco, alcohol and drugs these last 73 years. It is quite healthy. thank you.
As for the fictitious lifestyle you keep spouting about, it is only in your mind. A friend/business partnership is not a homosexual one. I don’t need to experience something to know about it. I have lived in this world for at least 20 years longer than you have and know how it works. Maybe it is your closet homosexuality that you try to project on others>? Probably. lol
BTW: Your family will likely not be there to take care of you, IF you live to be old. They will be dead or in some concentration camp there in the American Police State. Likewise, you may never see 73 years. You live in a growing hell, I don’t.
Makati1 on Wed, 10th Jan 2018 4:59 am
Keep acting immature and childish, Davy, everyone here knows that you are nothing but an arrogant, immature, pretend intellectual like MM. At least he has a rational rebuttal to my comments occasionally. You never do.
Tweedledee sand Tweedledum living in their own Alice in Wonderland world. Now you have the Mad Hatter as president and he is going to finish the destruction of the US. It’s fun to watch from 8,000 miles away.