Why do mainstream media reporters within ostensibly free democracies act just like state media propagandists? Why are they so reliably pro-establishment, all throughout every mainstream outlet? Why do they so consistently marginalize any idea that doesn’t fit within the extremely narrow Overton window of acceptable opinion?Why does anyone who inconveniences western establishment power always find themselves on the losing end of a trial by media? Why are they so dependably adversarial toward anything that could be perceived as a flaw in any nation outside the US-centralized power alliance, and so dependably forgiving of the flaws of the nations within it?
There is no consistency in how mass arrests are depicted in Western media. If this took place in a “hostile” country, it would be declared state-sponsored repression by an authoritarian regime https://t.co/xFmJNwlgBE
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) December 9, 2018
The way I see it there are only two possible explanations for the unanimous consensus in mass media on these issues:
Explanation 1: The consensus exists because the mass media reporters are all telling the truth all the time.
OR
Explanation 2: The consensus exists because there is some kind of system in place which keeps all mass media reporters lying to us and painting a false picture about what’s going on in the world.
Those are the only two possibilities, and only one can be true, since any mixture of the two would result in the loss of consensus.
Most mainstream westerners harbor an unquestioned assumption that Explanation 1 is the only possibility. The things they see on CNN, the BBC and the ABC are all accurate descriptions of what’s really going on in the world, and the consensus in their descriptions exists because they’re all describing the same objective reality.
But what would that mean exactly? Well, for starters if the mainstream media reporters are telling us the truth all the time it would mean that the same power institutions which slaughtered millions in Vietnam and Iraq for no good reason are actually virtuous and honest. It would mean the positive, uncritical picture that is consistently painted of those same institutions which wage nonstop campaigns of bloodshed and oppression to ensure the profit of economic manipulators and war profiteers is due to those institutions possessing merits which are overall so positive that no criticism of them is needed. It would mean that the status quo of climate destruction, steadily growing wealth inequality, an increasingly Orwellian surveillance system, an increasingly militarized police force, increasing internet censorship, and crushing neoliberal austerity measures are all things people voted for using the excellent democratic political system the mainstream media defends, based on the accurate information the mainstream media gave them about what’s in their best interests.
Explanation 1 sounds improbable in that light. We know that the system is spectacularly screwed up, and we know that the political establishment which these mainstream outlets always defend does unforgivably evil things, so we should expect to see a lot more critical reporting and a lot less protecting of the status quo. But we don’t. We see war crimes ignored, oppression justified, the two-headed one-party system normalized, dissident narratives smeared as fake news conspiracy theories, and unproven assertions by government agencies with a known history of lying reported as unquestionable fact.
But that leaves only Explanation 2. How could that be right?
This part of a 1996 interview between Noam Chomsky and the BBC’s Andrew Marr describes a foundational element of Explanation 2: that there is a system in place which ensures that all the reporters in positions of influence are there not to report factually on the news of the day, but to sell a particular narrative that is friendly to the state and the status quo. Chomsky describes a “filtering system” which ensures that only those loyal to power rise to the top within the plutocrat-owned media, to which Marr objects and insists that his peers are brave truth-tellers who hold power to account. Subsequently, the following exchange takes place:
Chomsky: Well, I know some of the best, and best known investigative reporters in the United States, I won’t mention names, whose attitude towards the media is much more cynical than mine. In fact, they regard the media as a sham. And they know, and they consciously talk about how they try to play it like a violin. If they see a little opening, they’ll try to squeeze something in that ordinarily wouldn’t make it through. And it’s perfectly true that the majority – I’m sure you’re speaking for the majority of journalists who are trained, have it driven into their heads, that this is a crusading profession, adversarial, we stand up against power. A very self-serving view. On the other hand, in my opinion, I hate to make a value judgement but, the better journalists and in fact the ones who are often regarded as the best journalists have quite a different picture. And I think a very realistic one.
Marr: How can you know that I’m self-censoring? How can you know that journalists are..
Chomsky: I’m not saying your self censoring. I’m sure you believe everything you’re saying. But what I’m saying is that if you believed something different, you wouldn’t be sitting where you’re sitting.
“If you believed something different, you wouldn’t be sitting where you’re sitting.”
It is an obvious fact that mainstream media outlets are owned by the extremely wealthy, as has been the case for a very long time. Owning media is in and of itself a profitable investment, “like having a license to print your own money” as Canadian television magnate Roy Thomson once put it. So when it comes to the news media outlets which form people’s perceptions of the world, what incentive would a powerful plutocrat have to platform anti-establishment voices on those outlets and help sow ideas which upset the status quo upon which said plutocrat has built his empire? It certainly wouldn’t make him any more money, and if anti-establishment ideas like socialism, anarchism, non-interventionism or skepticism of government agencies gained popular footing in public consciousness, it could upset the foundation of the plutocrat’s dynasty and cause him to lose everything.
Plutocrats have put a lot of energy into influencing government policy in order to create legislation which ensures the continued growth of their wealth and power. A whole lot of maneuvering has had to happen over the course of many years to create a political system wherein government bribery is legal in the form of campaign finance and corporate lobbying, wherein deregulation of corporations is the norm, wherein tax loopholes are abundant and tax burdens are shifted to the middle class, wherein money hemorrhages upward to the wealthiest of the wealthy while ordinary people grow poorer and poorer. What incentive would these powerful oligarchs have to risk upsetting that delicate balancing act by helping to circulate ideas which challenge the very governmental system they’ve worked so hard to manipulate to their extreme advantage? And how many incentives would they have to keep everyone supporting the status quo?
How hard would it be to simply decline to give anti-establishment voices a platform, and platform establishment loyalists instead? How easy would it be for a wealthy media owner or influential investor to ensure that only establishment loyalists are given the job of hiring and promoting editors and reporters in a mainstream media outlet?
Every blue-checkmark MSM journo on Twitter is auditioning for a job. All they’re actually tweeting is “Look at me, current or future employer! I will smear Julian Assange! I will help sell the Russia narrative! I’ll say Corbyn is an antisemite!” And the MSM bosses pay attention.
— Caitlin Johnstone ⏳ (@caitoz) December 9, 2018
If you’ve ever wondered what motivates all those blue-checkmarked corporate media journalists to spend so much time on Twitter defending the powerful and attacking the disempowered, this is your answer. They spend their own free time smearing Jill Stein, calling Jeremy Corbyn an antisemite, attacking Julian Assange, supporting longtime neoconservative war agendas against Russia, Syria and Iran and uncritically reporting intelligence agency assertions as fact not because there’s a CIA officer hovering over their shoulder at all times telling them exactly what to tweet, but because they’re auditioning for a job. They’re creating a public record of their establishment loyalism which current and future employers will look at when weighing hiring and promotion decisions, which is why both journalism schools and journalism employers now encourage journalists to cultivate a social media presence to “build their brand”, i.e. their public resume.
So it’s very easy to fill mass media jobs with minds which are not predisposed toward rocking the boat. A pro-establishment consensus is artificially built, and now you’ve got an environment where someone who stands up and says “Uh, hey, so we still haven’t seen any actual hard evidence that Russia interfered in the US election in any meaningful way” or whatever is instantly greeted by a wall of shunning and shaming (observe Aaron Maté‘s interactions with other journalists on social media for a good example of this), which can be psychologically difficult to deal with.
I want to note what a mind-blowing time it is for liberal media culture. For rejecting a Trump-Russia conspiracy theory, the small # of us leftists who do so are treated as heretics. Far from being hurt by it, I’m actually honored that people so credulous are so scornful: https://t.co/siuQwNrZg0
— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) December 10, 2018
Anyone who’s ever gone to high school can understand how powerful the social pressures to seek peer approval and fit in can be, and anyone who’s ever worked a normal job anywhere can understand the natural incentives that are in place to behave in a way that is pleasing to one’s bosses. In any job with any kind of hierarchy, you quickly learn the written rules, and you pay close attention to social cues to learn the unwritten ones as well. You do this in order to learn how to avoid getting in trouble and how to win the approval of your superiors, to learn which sorts of behaviors can lead to raises and promotions, and which behaviors will lead to a career dead-end. You learn what will earn you a pat on the back from a leader, which can be extremely egoically gratifying and incentivizing in and of itself.
It works exactly the same way in news media. Reporters might not always be consciously aware of all the pro-establishment guidelines they’re expected to follow in order to advance their careers, but they know how the reporters who’ve ascended to the top of the media ladder conduct themselves, and they see how the journalists who win the accolades behave. With the help of editors and peers you quickly learn where all the third rails and sacred cows are, and when to shut your mouth about the elephant in the room. And for those rare times that all these filtration devices fail to adequately filter out dissident ideas, you see the example that gets made of those few who slip between the cracks, like CNN contributor Marc Lamont Hill for his defense of Palestinian human rights or Phil Donahue for his opposition to the Iraq invasion.
Last week, CNN contributor Marc Lamont Hill delivered a speech at the United Nations in support of Palestinian self-determination and equal rights. Less than 24 hours later, CNN was done with him. https://t.co/yUjw97fUb2
— Mail & Guardian (@mailandguardian) December 10, 2018
So plutocrats own the mass media and platform status quo-friendly voices, which creates an environment full of peer pressure to conform and workplace pressure to advance establishment-friendly narratives. Add to this the phenomenon of access journalism, wherein journalists are incentivized to cozy up to power and pitch softball questions to officials in order to gain access to them, and things get even more slanted. It’s easy to understand how all this can create an environment of consensus which has nothing to do with facts or reality, but rather with what narratives favor the US-centralized empire and the plutocrats who control it. But all those dynamics aren’t the only factors going into making sure a consensus worldview is maintained. Remember that hypothetical CIA officer I mentioned earlier who isn’t actively leaning over every journalist’s shoulder and dictating what they tweet? Well, just because he’s not dictating every word produced by the mass media machine doesn’t mean he’s not involved.
Secretive and unaccountable government agencies have an extensive and well-documented record of involving themselves with news media outlets. It is a known and undisputed fact that the Central Intelligence Agency has been intimately involved in America’s news media since the 1950s, and it remains so to this day. In 2014 it was a scandal when reporter Ken Dilanian was caught collaborating with the CIA in his publications, but now veterans of the US intelligence community like John Brennan and James Clapper openly fill out the line-up of talking heads on MSNBC and CNN. Just recently the Guardian published a lie-filled smear piece on Julian Assange which was almost certainly the result of the outlet’s collaboration with one or more intelligence and/or defense agencies, and when that article caused an outcry it was defended as the likely result of Russian disinformation in an evidence-free article by a CIA veteran who was permitted to publish anonymously in Politico. The Washington Post is solely owned by Jeff Bezos, who is a CIA contractor, and who we may be certain did not purchase the Post under the illusion that newspapers were about to make a lucrative comeback. Secretive government agencies are deeply involved in the workings of western news media, in many ways we know about, and in far more ways we don’t know about.
Taking all of these factors into consideration and revisiting Explanation 1 and Explanation 2 from the beginning of this article, it should be obvious to you that the most logical explanation for the uniform consensus of support for pro-establishment narratives in the mass media exists because there is indeed a system in place which keeps all mass media reporters lying to us and painting a false picture about what’s going on in the world.
This doesn’t mean that these news media outlets lie about everything all the time, it means they mostly provide half-truths, distortions and lies by omission whenever it benefits the agendas of the powerful, which is functionally the same as lying all the time. I sometimes get people telling me “Caitlin! The MSM lies all the time, and they say global warming is real! That means it’s false!” But it doesn’t work that way; if the TV tells you a celebrity has died then it’s probably true, and if they say it’s about to rain you should probably roll up your car windows. If they lied about everything all the time they would instantly lose all credibility, and their ability to propagandize effectively would be lost. Instead, they advance evidence-free narratives asserted by opaque government agencies, they avoid highlighting inconvenient truths, they ignore third parties and dissident ideas except to dismiss them, they harshly criticize the misdeeds of governments which oppose the US-centralized empire while sweeping the misdeeds of imperial members under the rug, and when there’s an opportunity to sabotage peace or support war, they seize it. They distort only when they have to, and only as much as they need to.
In this way the powerful have succeeded in controlling the people’s narratives about what’s happening in their country and their world. This is the system of narrative manipulation we are up against when we try to sow dissident ideas into public consciousness, and as the old adage goes, it is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
And yet we are gaining ground. The manipulators have been losing control of the narrative, which is why the mass media have been acting so weird and desperate since 2016. The unelected power establishment failed to manufacture support for its would-be Syria invasion, it failed to get the public to buy into the Russia hysteria, trust in the mass media is at an all-time low, and it’s continuing to plummet. More and more people are waking up to the fact that they are being lied to, which is good, because the only thing keeping them from pushing for real change is the fact that there are all these screens in everyone’s lives telling them that real change isn’t needed.
The liars are against the ropes, and they’re starting to look winded. A populist information revolution is looking more winnable than ever.
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Vlad The Great on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:37 pm
Russia can launch nukes from submarines. Russian submarines are not deployed in Europe.
HAHA!
Vlad The Great on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:53 pm
Here Are All the Submarines of the Russian Navy in One Infographic
One more than the United States.
“One submarine on this list is particularly ominous, the Sarov, a test platform for the Kanyon/Status-6 apocalypse torpedo, a nuclear-powered torpedo designed to attack coastal targets such as ports and cities with an enormous 100 megaton thermonuclear warhead. Status-6 is designed to bypass U.S. missile defenses, destroying entire coastal regions with nuclear blast, tsunamis, and rendering the area uninhabitable with long-lasting nuclear fallout.”
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a19863945/here-are-all-the-submarines-of-the-russian-navy-in-one-infographic/
Oh Oh!
Anonymouse on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 10:07 pm
I dont know mak, that guy looks far more coherent, classier and intelligent than I imagine the exceptionaltrud\I AM THE DAVYTURD to be IRL. But it is likely, not too far off-the-mark either.
However, it is going be very hard to un-see those images now mak, thanks.
makati1 on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 10:30 pm
Sorry about that Anon. I see it every time I see his posts. I don’t read most of them, even if they addressed to me as I know they are just more of the same old goatshit he has been posting for years. Nor do I read those long cut and paste rants he occasionally posts.
He spends far too much time online to be running a real farm, especially a large one with hired help. Cannot imagine anyone working for him for more than a few minutes without quitting or punching him in the mouth. More likely, he is on some form of disability welfare living on someone else’ land.
Anonymouse on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 11:05 pm
Does being stark raving mad count as a disability? I only ask, since in the united snakes, being insane and delusional is not a significant barrier or hurdle to things like,say, gun ownership, or, eligibility for holding the highest political offices or military positions in the land.
So Davyturd might be ‘disabled’ by human standards, but in amerikan terms, he could be considered comparatively ‘normal’, and thus, fail to qualify for welfare.
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 11:15 pm
“The liars are against the ropes, and they’re starting to look winded. A populist information revolution is looking more winnable than ever”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6484841/One-dead-three-hurt-shooting-Christmas-market-Strasbourg.html
Bet your last dollar on that one. The civil war in France just got a big step nearer. The cleanup isn’t very far away. Europe has thrown out Islam several times before and we are going to do it again. And throw out the 1945 Anglo colonizers that ramned us these muslim clowns through our throats with them.
But wait for a clash in the South China Sea first.
Rule #1 in geopolitics: enter a war last, when the others are already locked in.
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 11:25 pm
Strassburg, the video, including the Moroccan perp Chérif Chekatt:
http://www.pi-news.net/2018/12/terror-am-strassburger-weihnachtsmarkt-nach-schuessen-2-tote-mehrere-verletzte/
Reconquista!
War is so much more interesting than Black Friday.
Time not only to rollback 1945, but 1776 as well. The charade has lasted long enough.
Outcast_Searcher on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 11:29 pm
There could not possibly be any other explanation, because the blogger who wrote this is an idiot, and can’t imagine anything else, perhaps?
Also, the claim that there’s complete MSM consensus is total nonsense, so there’s that.
First, mainstream media most certainly doesn’t agree on everything all the time. What they choose to report and how they choose to report it, and publish editorial content on issues varies radically by publication.
For example, for issues of science, climate, etc., the WSJ portrays many issues very differently than the NYT — especially in editorial content published.
If being “rogue” means being an idiot, little wonder this clown doesn’t report as an MSM reporter, holding a good job.
makati1 on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 11:56 pm
Anon, you could be right. Most high placed Americans are more than delusional. They are clinically insane. But a back injury is easy to fake. Somewhere I read that disability claims increased over one million new ones in 2018. Must be that fantastic American economy. LOL
makati1 on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 11:57 pm
Your brainwashing was a complete sucess, Outcast. Your diploma is in the mail. LMAO!
makati1 on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 12:05 am
“The U.S. Has Huawei in Cuffs. China Has the U.S. in Chains”
“Here’s a vision of how things might look if Beijing decides to retaliate by leveraging its dominance of the supply chain for American companies….(See theoretical example)
U.S. companies have a lot to lose if such a scenario sparks a backlash in China. Apple Inc. is the most obvious, with the company’s devices assembled there. It goes further: Cisco Systems Inc. routers, Dell Inc. computers, and wiring harnesses for Ford Motor Co. are sourced from China. Even the servers deployed by Facebook Inc., Alphabet Inc. and Amazon.com Inc. can be traced back to the country’s deep supply chain….
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-12-10/china-s-huawei-retaliation-could-punish-u-s-companies?srnd=premium-asia
“The U.S. may have been successful in getting one Chinese citizen into custody. But China has swathes of American industry in chains.”
Nuff said.
GetAVasectomyDudeLifeSuckAss on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 12:13 am
Europe is finished. White people low birth rate and mass migration have now killed Europe and all Western nations. The death of Western nation also means the death of human dignity. Without oil there is no dental tech and similar tech, therefore no human life dignity.
The only solution the elite could think of when face will diminishing net energy was to ramp up mass migration into Western nation.
You cannot replace diminishing net energy by mass migration. Mass migration is now energy(joule)
This is English translation of what the French interior minister said one month before the yellow vest prostest.
“It’s as if Gérard Collomb announced a civil war”. Wednesday morning, Gerard Collomb officially gave the keys of the Place Beauvau to Prime Minister Edouard Philippe, who must ensure the time to find a successor. And the departure speech of the resigning minister has “stunned” Bruno Retailleau. “Very few people have noted the apocalyptic speech he made, the first cop in France, about leaving.” He said: “In France, there is a separatism. the law of drug traffickers and Islamists Today, the French live side by side, tomorrow they could live face to face, “reports Bruno Retailleau.
https://www.europe1.fr/politique/bruno-retailleau-stupefie-par-le-discours-apocalyptique-de-gerard-collomb-3770864
makati1 on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 12:21 am
“Nearly a million filed for disability during the recession who otherwise wouldn’t have, study finds”
“Of those that filed that otherwise would not have, some 41.8% were awarded benefits, or more than 400,000 new beneficiaries to the Social Security Disability Insurance program….
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2018/12/10/nearly-a-million-filed-for-disability-during-the-recession-who-otherwise-wouldnt-have-study-finds/
“Disability benefits last year were paid to 715,921 workers, who received an average monthly payment of $1,196.87, the government says.”
“List of 80+ Federal Welfare Programs”
https://singlemotherguide.com/federal-welfare-programs/
“Taking from the Taxpayers: Full List of Subsidy Recipients” (Hundreds!)
https://www.ewg.org/research/taking-taxpayers/full-list-subsidy-recipients
“Your tax dollars at work, Americans. And you claim to not be a socialist country. LMAO!
GetAVasectomyDudeLifeSuckAss on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 12:22 am
Mass migration was the worst Western nations could do. The best would have been to close the borders and demolish buildings and rebuild agricultural base.
Now the Western nation has two problem: internal civil war caused by mass migration and net energy depletion.
I don’t believe Western nation will survive what is coming. The whole world will lose much more then Western nation, we will lose Western technologies and knowledge because of the civil war. The human race will never come back from that.
DerHundistLos on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 2:31 am
GetAVasectomyDudeLifeSuckAss
Mass migration causes an unrecoverable additional problem. As a country loses its homogeneity, the less trust that exists,, and trust is essential to the workings of a society. The concept of a vast melting pot is wrong- among Europeans yes, but not the world as a whole. Japan understands this fact quite well, which is why it’s extremely difficult to become a Japanese citizen. The Japanese frown upon inter-marriage. Countries like Sweden and Germany are hammering the nails into their coffin as rapidly as possible.
I was friends with a German who served as the Swiss General Counsel in Cali, Colombia (now deceased). He was required by the authorities in Bern to welcome and facilitate the adoption of Colombian children by European couples. When I visited, he told me that he wanted to show me something. The German, Swiss, Swedish couples at the counsel’s residence pursuing adoption all had Black or Mestizo children. Despite Colombia having the largest caucasian population in Central and South America (descendents of the Basque region of Spain on the border of France settled the Andes mountain areas of Colombia due to their predisposition to living and working in these environments), Northern European couples ONLY want to adopt Black and Mestizo babies. Simply amazing how Northern Europeans have been brainwashed into thinking White is bad and non-White is good.
joe on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 3:17 am
How drained is that swamp now guys?
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 3:45 am
“Delusional Davy bedding down with the goats to keep warm. Has no real rebuttal so he signs off.”
Billy, more of your childish putdowns that you whine about constantly. Hypocrite
“Davy, the West is ALL going down. Read the news. I don’t lump it, the world does.”
Translation: Davy caught me in the act of comment gaming.
“But your trying to say that Bangladesh is typical of Asia is pure lying.”
Where do I do this billy, quit your gaming. I know as much or more about Asia as you do. We both have internet access. You don’t travel and live in the isolated town of Infanta. No real Asian exposure. You are the lie.
“Davy, your long list of rebuttal is worthless as you are just trying to justify your lies.”
Whine
“You don’t own a farm, you daddy does, and it will not be there if the government takes it for back taxes.”
Sure billy, this is the internet you know nothing for sure about me. I know more or less what you talk about and you have a room with your boyfriend and 2 suitcases. You live off your social security check and play here all day. You call this freedom but I call it an old man wasting away his last years with no family. SAD
“You have no real loving family and no friends. You already admitted that previously. Two failed marriages.”
Sure billy, admitted I have no family or friends? Post the comment where I said that. If you post JuanP identity theft well then we know the source. Look at your friends here JuanP the lunatic and Anon the waste case Canadian millennial. Some example of friendship billy style. Yes, I had two failed marriages. One in my twenties then one in my 40’s. My second wife died fucknut. That is failure you are heading for.
“Your arrogant, bullying personality will insure that you will be killed early in the chaos.”
Look in the mirror
Cloggie on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 3:54 am
@DerHund – Before 1945 no European would have dreamed to behave like many do now. It is purely the brainwashing result of that enforced membership of that f* US empire that needs to be destroyed from the ground up. In the West you can’t see an ice cream add without having a smiling couple presented, consisting of a black man and a white woman. It is all by intent. Prescriptions from higher up. The US empire is a media empire.
A few observations:
Russia and Eastern Europe are immune. Reason: not a member of the empire.
Japan: is member of the empire but
1. Has no Jews
2. Doesn’t suffer from that terminal jewish-invented braincancer called christianity and is immune from guilt complexes based on the holohoax.
Germany is mentally destroyed by the holohoax.. Protestant countries are the most vulnerable (freedom of religion, enter Jews).
But… Catholic Italy is already liberated. Spain is making progress. Grassroots populism is gaining strenght everywhere. The French are beginning to mobilize. And with a little luck we get rid of the British. I am not pessimistic at all for Europe.
War is coming.
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 3:56 am
“The U.S. may have been successful in getting one Chinese citizen into custody. But China has swathes of American industry in chains.” Nuff said.
LOL, look at billy using Bloomberg dot com as a source. Drinking the KOOl-aid, billy hypocrite?? I always see you criticizing US MSM until you need a source, FRAUD.
Billy, both countries are in chains to each other including the rest of the world. It is called delocalization and this is what globalism does. You don’t understand this because you are a binary bot of Asia good and West bad. What kind of intelligence is that?
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 4:24 am
“@DerHund – Before 1945 no European would have dreamed to behave like many do now. It is purely the brainwashing result of that enforced membership of that f* US empire that needs to be destroyed from the ground up.”
BS, it is called globalism and Europe is just as much a part of that. Europeans immigrated all over the world changing the world in the 19th century and before. You let in peoples from all over Europe and your colonies early on post WWII. German let in thousands of Turks. I know I ate at their restaurants when I lived in Germany in 85. Latter came the Merkle migrations that were an effort at multi-culturalism but this also was an effort at filling the demographic gap with your aging Euro population. Stupid economist cried about plugging the gap and blind liberalism stepped up and said immigration was a good thing because economist say so. It is true for all major powers that the demographic gap will be very destructive but mass migration is worse.
Neder you are all about distortions and finger pointing but you never look in the mirror. Your extremist white racist never did anything wrong, ever, is your lament. Sound familiar, yea it is called failure because everyone is in a learning process. It is those who point the fingers at others for “ALL” their problems that are the liars. Those who revise history and manufacture a fantasy future of current events that are lying to themselves and to others. It is an abandonment of the truth and it stinks. I am sympathetic to white anger over immigration but it is balanced. Whites help destroy this world so whites deserve some of what is coming through shared sacrifice, yet, to a point.
Many like me once believed in globalism as the last best hope of sustainable development but instead greed took us to a world of profits and homogenization. This was a self-organizing phenomena along with active policy but the self-organizing part was the greatest because it was driven by profit not some stupid notion of race destruction. We are now in a very dangerous world of overshoot and people like me are now against mass migration out of necessity. The more people we take in the less sustainable we are. We passed the economic point of immigration making us more affluent. A small amount of immigration is necessary and a part of globalism. You can’t have the benefits of globalism without some immigration. The best minds and those with money will move around but teaming masses moving around that must be supported with reeducation is another story. If we are to help these people keep them where they are. Until they solve their population control issues then part of their problems are on them. I am all for ending mass immigration and protecting all cultures white and of color. We need to be fairer as nations and the big powers are most to blame for 3rd world exploitation but the 3rd world can’t control their population foot print now. As decline becomes more pronounced western nations, the subject of mass migration, will have their hands full supporting their own increasing population of disenfranchised. We don’t need more to add to that
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 4:36 am
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Anonymouse on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 11:05 pm
Anon, you have demonstrated you have no life and nothing to say. If one reviews your comments we see failure. You may be trying to help daddy mak but you are demonstrating the low IQ of internet gaming. I have seen nothing of intelligence out of you for months. Your obsession with me is admission of being beaten. The anti-American Canadian element here that blamed most everything on the US is gone. You are all that is left and you don’t say anything. You just come on here every now and then and whine about me or sometimes neder. That is victory on my part. You have been defeated and completely neutered and now all you can do is whine. The same is true for JuanP who has gone full loon and lawless with multiple socks and daily identity theft. He does this because I crush him in debating the issues. The censorship gang is defeated thank god.
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 4:40 am
“Strassburg, the video, including the Moroccan perp Chérif Chekatt:”
“Time not only to rollback 1945, but 1776 as well. The charade has lasted long enough.”
LOL, neder, you take a Euro problem and BOOM blame it on the US. You can’t get that smell off your hands can you? Neder it is the smell of shit and it is yours.
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 5:05 am
“Europe Struggles As The ECB Pretends To Know What They’re Doing”
https://tinyurl.com/ybddm9qt
“The European Central Bank (ECB) is rumored to be planning a halt to its four-year quantitative easing program this week when it will stop its asset purchases while continuing to keep interest rates at current near-zero levels through 2019. The Economist laments this ‘rash’ decision, arguing that the European economy is still ‘faltering’, showing only very feeble and unstable signs of growth. Since 2015, the ECB has bought bonds worth almost $3trn. However, core inflation has remained fairly low, exports have waxed and waned, and the Euro area has shown no clear signs of recovery after the 2008 financial collapse.”
“Underlying the current sluggish performance of the European economies are the malinvestments prior to the 2008 collapse that were not allowed to be purged through the normal market process, and all the malinvestments brought about by the rounds of QE undertaken since then. Capital goods erroneously invested in more roundabout processes during the boom and after the bust remain locked in unproductive purposes. The suffocating regulations the EU is known for have only made it harder for entrepreneurs to salvage some losses from the crisis and embark on new and actually productive endeavors.”
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 5:05 am
“The EU and the warning signs of Fascism”
https://tinyurl.com/ybjget8q
“Things are spiralling out of control in Europe, faster than many predicted. Outside of Brexit, there is strong anti-EU feeling in Hungary, Spain, Italy, Greece and France. The EU is in danger of crumbling, and people afraid of losing power are prone to extreme acts of dictatorial control. How long before the EU truly becomes the authoritarian force that people from both ends of the political spectrum have always feared?”
“CONCLUSION To sum up: The European Union’s two major figureheads are both in favour of an EU army. The European Union’s flag is painted on armoured vehicles repressing anti-government protests in France. The European Union is putting aside £4.6 millio (5 million Euros) to “help people recognise disinformation”. The European Union wants to pressure social media companies into “shutting down” accounts that spread “fake news”. The European Union wants Google to alter their algorithm, to promote news that praises the EU and demote sites critical of it. The European Union wants us to understand that this is about “transparency” and is definitely NOT censorship. Does this sound like an organization of which we want to be a part? Are we supposed to like the proposed multi-national EU “defense force” putting down anti-EU marches on the streets of Barcelona or Rome? To cheer on the idea that the EU Army could be sent into non-cooperative member-states to remove “dangerous” elected leaders because they are a threat to “equality”? We won’t even be able to get to truth of those matters, because the EU will be supplying lists of “fake news” social media accounts to Twitter and Facebook, who will dutifully shut them down. While Google alters and re-alters their algorithm to make sure any news covering EU repression of democracy is pushed so far down the results pages it may as well not exist. The British press, pundits and talking heads are constantly referring to the “Brexit crisis”, but that’s just hysteria and fear mongering. Re-negotiating your position in a trade bloc is NOT a crisis. A crisis is what happens when an unelected, bureaucratic power structure suddenly senses its grip on power is slipping, and acts accordingly. And a crisis could well be on the horizon. The signs are there, if you want to see them.”
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 5:07 am
Neder, it appears that Europe is going down as fast as everyone else so quit your cheerleading and finger pointing.
Cloggie on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 5:11 am
It’s on: vote of no confidence tonight
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6486843/Who-replace-Prime-Minister-toppled-tonight.html
Bookie favorite: Raab-kike
My personal preference ranking:
1. Soft Brexit (May deal)
2. Hard Brexit
3. Remain, a desaster, since it would block European rearmament, purpose of which is intervention in North-America, terminate CW2 and dismantle ZOG.
All three options are possible.
If May survives, her deal is still possible in a second vote end march.
The worst possibility: new elections, Labour win, second referendum, remain wins and fokking Tony Bliar rewarded in becoming successor of Juncker.
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 5:23 am
“Trade War Damage to China’s Economy Is Already Done, Citi Says”
https://tinyurl.com/y82cydvo
“The damage to China’s economy from the trade war with the U.S. can’t be immediately made good even in the case of a resolution with President Donald Trump, Citigroup economists say. That’s because the tariff war is underlining China’s rising cost of labor at a time when the job market is under pressure, Citi economists led by Liu Li-Gang said in their 2019 economic outlook report. The trade war with the U.S. could cut China’s export growth by almost half next year, putting around 4.4 million jobs at risk, the economists wrote. “It is a reality that China is losing some of its cost competitiveness, especially in labor-intensive and low-value-added sectors,” according to the report. “Although shifting the supply chains is not feasible in real time, manufacturers may seriously weigh the option of leaving China if punitive tariffs last longer than expected.”
“The economists expect the trade war will cut China’s export growth by almost half to 5.1 percent in 2019. The 25 percent tariffs on US $250 billion worth of imports from China would reduce China’s exports by 5.6 percentage points, denting GDP growth by 1.04 percentage points. That is because more than half of China’s exports to the U.S., equivalent to around $127.1 billion worth of goods, could be replaced by goods from other countries, which translates to an equivalent reduction in China exports to the U.S., Liu explained at the briefing in Hong Kong. There are worrying signs already visible in leading indicators of the job market, such as a worsened PMI-employment index, increased unemployment benefit claimants, and a decline in urban household confidence in current and future employment sentiment, Liu said.”
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 5:24 am
I remain firm that 2019 will be a year of decline even if China and the US reach a trade agreement. The reason is frontloading of the crisis and other headwinds. The frontloading was the strong business activity to get ahead of the worst of a trade crisis. The US has yet to feel real pain except in the farm sector but it will be coming. China has structural problems that go deeper than US trade. The other headwinds include the Trump tax wearing off. Then we have Euro economic and social problems stressing that part of the triad of globalism. Markets are volatile and at historic highs closing in on the longest economic cycle ever. Central banks and markets have managed to keep it going with rate repression, easing, and direct market intervention but now tightening has made its mark as another headwind. The question is will it be bad or deadly? Nobody knows this because we are still in uncharted waters of managed globalism with a world increasingly at odds with each other.
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 5:33 am
“EV Sales Capital Of The World” Is Shanghai”
https://tinyurl.com/ybaztm6r
https://tinyurl.com/y93adto3
“The International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT) recently released a report on EV sales around the world. It’s a fascinating document with some intriguing insights. Were you aware that over one million electric passenger vehicles were sold around the world in 2017, that China led the way with over 579,000, and that most sales of such vehicles to date have taken place in China, Europe, Japan, and the United States?”
“Some of the cities with the highest passenger EV sales were Beijing, Shanghai, London, Paris, Tokyo and Kyoto, Amsterdam, Oslo, Stockholm, Los Angeles, New York, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, Seattle, Chongqing, and Shenzhen. The top 25 cities each had 20,000 EV sales or more in 2017. Of these cities, the world leader was Shanghai with 162,000 electric vehicle sales since 2011. Beijing had 147,000 and Los Angeles 143,000, so Shanghai was far ahead of both. For 2017, Shanghai had nearly 66,000 passenger EV sales.”
Davy Sock on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 5:53 am
Davy and Davy sittin’ in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
First comes love, then comes marriage
Then comes Davy in the baby carriage
Suckin’ his thumb, wettin’ his pants
Doin’ the houlah, houlah dance.
A hip, a hop, a socialize
Just come on Davy, let me date ur eyes
Say Davy and Jill went up the hill to plant a little sprout
Say stupid Jill done forgot the pill
So Davy done punch the bitch out.
Cloggie on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 7:11 am
CW2 latest, straight from the horses’ mouth: Trump predicts Americans will revolt if impeached:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6485873/Trump-says-Americans-REVOLT-impeached-wrong.html
JuanP on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 7:50 am
I can see that the Exceptionalist was overwhelmed by his inferiority complex today. ROFLMFAO!
Can you really force yourself into believing all that crap you say and post, Davy, or are you just pretending?
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 7:52 am
neder, revolt and CW2 are two different things besides Trump may have impeachment proceeding but they will be squashed in the Senate. He may be indicted after he is out office. Do your US research before you open you make lame comments.
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 7:52 am
A leading neder source
“Daily Mail”
https://tinyurl.com/y798dnwj
“The Daily Mail (a.k.a. Hate Mail, Daily Fail, Daily Heil, Daily Moan, Crazy Mail, and so on) is a reactionary right-wing tabloid rag masquerading as a “traditional values” middle-class newspaper that is, in many ways, the second-worst of the British gutter press (only Rupert Murdoch’s The Sun is worse). In the 1930s, it infamously supported Oswald Mosley and fascism. The Daily Mail is to the UK what the New York Post is to the United States, and what the Drudge Report is to the Internet: to wit, gossipy tabloid “journalism” for those who cannot digest serious news, with a flippantly wingnut editorial stance. Like the Daily Express, it tries to appear more upmarket and respectable than the red-top British tabloids, though it does sometimes go in for the full front-page picture or headline characteristic of the populist rags. It is also notorious for its frequent harassment of individuals, campaigns of hate directed at various minorities (focusing on Muslims), and willfully deceiving and lying to its readers. Much of its content is designed to trigger readers’ limbic systems, so articles generate strong emotions of hate, fear, anger, sadness, disgust, and occasionally happiness (usually because a white middle-class person has done something nice, or kittens). Like trout in a fish farm pond, readers wait for the Daily Mail to fling the next story to them about ne’er-do-wells smirking, scruffy women in tracksuits smoking outside court (where they face charges of drunken assault or benefit fraud), brown people and assorted foreigners doing the things that they do, lefties campaigning about something, or working class people enjoying themselves in a non-approved way. Then, the readership erupts into a foaming fury that quickly subsides as they wait for the next story. But the fury doesn’t completely subside; it leaves a residual anger that simmers in the background and requires another trigger story to allow it to boil over once more.”
JuanP 28th Jun 2016 on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 7:54 am
I wish I could smoke that shit, too, but I had to quit it because for me it is either stoned all day every day or don’t touch it at all. My addictive personality and obsessive compulsive nature don’t allow me to consume drugs with moderation so I had to quit because I am too old to be a pothead.
BillT on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 7:57 am
Back on the houch Mr. addictive and obsessive compulsive? One thing is certain your compulsively spamming this board with identity theft and socks making it less desirable and more tabloid.
Cloggie on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 8:12 am
Cultural marxist empire dave quotes cultural marxist RationalWiki for “truth”:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RationalWiki
Next.
Davy on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 8:37 am
neder, it is just a source that exposes a dirty tabloid. I don’t use it too often except for you and billy because you two extremist use questionable sources constantly and point fingers at MSM sources you use when opportune. Total extremist agenda shit from you two.
Cloggie on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 2:24 pm
Fate May known any minute now
tick-tock
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6486671/Theresa-face-Tory-no-confidence-vote-TONIGHT.html
Cloggie on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 3:06 pm
Clear victory May.
200 votes supporting where 159 were required.
Barnier-Raab deal upgraded.
May can’t be attacked by “fellow” tories for another 12 months.
Cloggie on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 3:13 pm
Teflon Tess did it again!
I have to admit I can’t help admiring her for her tenacity.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6486671/Theresa-face-Tory-no-confidence-vote-TONIGHT.html
I wish her succes with her attempts of turning the UK in a EU vassal rather than a US one.
I AM THE MOB on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 3:45 pm
Europe
I would mine my own business if I were you..
Europe Economic Growth (GDP)
1973 5.4 %
1989 3.3%
2001 2%
2016 1.6%
2028 0% = Economic Collapse
Source: Harvard
Political Instability and Economic Growth – (Alesina, 1996) Journal of Economic Growth
https://www.scribd.com/document/384373317/Political-Instability-and-Economic-Growth-Alesina-1996
Source: World Bank
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.KD.ZG?locati&locations=EU
I AM THE MOB on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 3:47 pm
Clogg
I bet your white European woman will moan like whores when the goons beat down their doors!
LMFAO!
Cloggie on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 3:56 pm
I bet your white European woman will moan like whores when the goons beat down their doors!
It looks like that the British prefer to remain a little bit European after all.
One wonders why that is.
Perhaps because they detest the alternative?
We’ll never know.
Cloggie on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 4:41 pm
“Google may be blocked in Russia & country is ready to change laws to do it – watchdog”
https://www.rt.com/russia/446278-google-blocking-russia-illegal-websites/
#YandexIsJustGood
I AM THE MOB on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 7:15 pm
Clogg
“The four most beautiful words in our common language: I told you so.”
– Gore Vidal
I AM THE MOB on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 7:19 pm
Terrified by the French protests, Spain raises minimum wage by 22%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46539748
onlooker on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 7:51 pm
Yep, forget the ballot box, let the elite feel the masses and they cave in
I AM THE MOB on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 8:40 pm
Ocasio-Cortez: Conservatives ‘gaslight the nation’ with dishonest actions
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/421112-ocasio-cortez-conservatives-gaslight-the-nation-with-dishonest-actions
Duncan Idaho on Wed, 12th Dec 2018 9:28 pm
Ocasio-Cortez: Conservatives ‘gaslight the nation’ with dishonest actions
Lets be honest– Repug have no moral compass, and are, how shall we be kind, idiots.