Why do mainstream media reporters within ostensibly free democracies act just like state media propagandists? Why are they so reliably pro-establishment, all throughout every mainstream outlet? Why do they so consistently marginalize any idea that doesn’t fit within the extremely narrow Overton window of acceptable opinion?Why does anyone who inconveniences western establishment power always find themselves on the losing end of a trial by media? Why are they so dependably adversarial toward anything that could be perceived as a flaw in any nation outside the US-centralized power alliance, and so dependably forgiving of the flaws of the nations within it?
There is no consistency in how mass arrests are depicted in Western media. If this took place in a “hostile” country, it would be declared state-sponsored repression by an authoritarian regime https://t.co/xFmJNwlgBE
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) December 9, 2018
The way I see it there are only two possible explanations for the unanimous consensus in mass media on these issues:
Explanation 1: The consensus exists because the mass media reporters are all telling the truth all the time.
OR
Explanation 2: The consensus exists because there is some kind of system in place which keeps all mass media reporters lying to us and painting a false picture about what’s going on in the world.
Those are the only two possibilities, and only one can be true, since any mixture of the two would result in the loss of consensus.
Most mainstream westerners harbor an unquestioned assumption that Explanation 1 is the only possibility. The things they see on CNN, the BBC and the ABC are all accurate descriptions of what’s really going on in the world, and the consensus in their descriptions exists because they’re all describing the same objective reality.
But what would that mean exactly? Well, for starters if the mainstream media reporters are telling us the truth all the time it would mean that the same power institutions which slaughtered millions in Vietnam and Iraq for no good reason are actually virtuous and honest. It would mean the positive, uncritical picture that is consistently painted of those same institutions which wage nonstop campaigns of bloodshed and oppression to ensure the profit of economic manipulators and war profiteers is due to those institutions possessing merits which are overall so positive that no criticism of them is needed. It would mean that the status quo of climate destruction, steadily growing wealth inequality, an increasingly Orwellian surveillance system, an increasingly militarized police force, increasing internet censorship, and crushing neoliberal austerity measures are all things people voted for using the excellent democratic political system the mainstream media defends, based on the accurate information the mainstream media gave them about what’s in their best interests.
Explanation 1 sounds improbable in that light. We know that the system is spectacularly screwed up, and we know that the political establishment which these mainstream outlets always defend does unforgivably evil things, so we should expect to see a lot more critical reporting and a lot less protecting of the status quo. But we don’t. We see war crimes ignored, oppression justified, the two-headed one-party system normalized, dissident narratives smeared as fake news conspiracy theories, and unproven assertions by government agencies with a known history of lying reported as unquestionable fact.
But that leaves only Explanation 2. How could that be right?
This part of a 1996 interview between Noam Chomsky and the BBC’s Andrew Marr describes a foundational element of Explanation 2: that there is a system in place which ensures that all the reporters in positions of influence are there not to report factually on the news of the day, but to sell a particular narrative that is friendly to the state and the status quo. Chomsky describes a “filtering system” which ensures that only those loyal to power rise to the top within the plutocrat-owned media, to which Marr objects and insists that his peers are brave truth-tellers who hold power to account. Subsequently, the following exchange takes place:
Chomsky: Well, I know some of the best, and best known investigative reporters in the United States, I won’t mention names, whose attitude towards the media is much more cynical than mine. In fact, they regard the media as a sham. And they know, and they consciously talk about how they try to play it like a violin. If they see a little opening, they’ll try to squeeze something in that ordinarily wouldn’t make it through. And it’s perfectly true that the majority – I’m sure you’re speaking for the majority of journalists who are trained, have it driven into their heads, that this is a crusading profession, adversarial, we stand up against power. A very self-serving view. On the other hand, in my opinion, I hate to make a value judgement but, the better journalists and in fact the ones who are often regarded as the best journalists have quite a different picture. And I think a very realistic one.
Marr: How can you know that I’m self-censoring? How can you know that journalists are..
Chomsky: I’m not saying your self censoring. I’m sure you believe everything you’re saying. But what I’m saying is that if you believed something different, you wouldn’t be sitting where you’re sitting.
“If you believed something different, you wouldn’t be sitting where you’re sitting.”
It is an obvious fact that mainstream media outlets are owned by the extremely wealthy, as has been the case for a very long time. Owning media is in and of itself a profitable investment, “like having a license to print your own money” as Canadian television magnate Roy Thomson once put it. So when it comes to the news media outlets which form people’s perceptions of the world, what incentive would a powerful plutocrat have to platform anti-establishment voices on those outlets and help sow ideas which upset the status quo upon which said plutocrat has built his empire? It certainly wouldn’t make him any more money, and if anti-establishment ideas like socialism, anarchism, non-interventionism or skepticism of government agencies gained popular footing in public consciousness, it could upset the foundation of the plutocrat’s dynasty and cause him to lose everything.
Plutocrats have put a lot of energy into influencing government policy in order to create legislation which ensures the continued growth of their wealth and power. A whole lot of maneuvering has had to happen over the course of many years to create a political system wherein government bribery is legal in the form of campaign finance and corporate lobbying, wherein deregulation of corporations is the norm, wherein tax loopholes are abundant and tax burdens are shifted to the middle class, wherein money hemorrhages upward to the wealthiest of the wealthy while ordinary people grow poorer and poorer. What incentive would these powerful oligarchs have to risk upsetting that delicate balancing act by helping to circulate ideas which challenge the very governmental system they’ve worked so hard to manipulate to their extreme advantage? And how many incentives would they have to keep everyone supporting the status quo?
How hard would it be to simply decline to give anti-establishment voices a platform, and platform establishment loyalists instead? How easy would it be for a wealthy media owner or influential investor to ensure that only establishment loyalists are given the job of hiring and promoting editors and reporters in a mainstream media outlet?
Every blue-checkmark MSM journo on Twitter is auditioning for a job. All they’re actually tweeting is “Look at me, current or future employer! I will smear Julian Assange! I will help sell the Russia narrative! I’ll say Corbyn is an antisemite!” And the MSM bosses pay attention.
— Caitlin Johnstone ⏳ (@caitoz) December 9, 2018
If you’ve ever wondered what motivates all those blue-checkmarked corporate media journalists to spend so much time on Twitter defending the powerful and attacking the disempowered, this is your answer. They spend their own free time smearing Jill Stein, calling Jeremy Corbyn an antisemite, attacking Julian Assange, supporting longtime neoconservative war agendas against Russia, Syria and Iran and uncritically reporting intelligence agency assertions as fact not because there’s a CIA officer hovering over their shoulder at all times telling them exactly what to tweet, but because they’re auditioning for a job. They’re creating a public record of their establishment loyalism which current and future employers will look at when weighing hiring and promotion decisions, which is why both journalism schools and journalism employers now encourage journalists to cultivate a social media presence to “build their brand”, i.e. their public resume.
So it’s very easy to fill mass media jobs with minds which are not predisposed toward rocking the boat. A pro-establishment consensus is artificially built, and now you’ve got an environment where someone who stands up and says “Uh, hey, so we still haven’t seen any actual hard evidence that Russia interfered in the US election in any meaningful way” or whatever is instantly greeted by a wall of shunning and shaming (observe Aaron Maté‘s interactions with other journalists on social media for a good example of this), which can be psychologically difficult to deal with.
I want to note what a mind-blowing time it is for liberal media culture. For rejecting a Trump-Russia conspiracy theory, the small # of us leftists who do so are treated as heretics. Far from being hurt by it, I’m actually honored that people so credulous are so scornful: https://t.co/siuQwNrZg0
— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) December 10, 2018
Anyone who’s ever gone to high school can understand how powerful the social pressures to seek peer approval and fit in can be, and anyone who’s ever worked a normal job anywhere can understand the natural incentives that are in place to behave in a way that is pleasing to one’s bosses. In any job with any kind of hierarchy, you quickly learn the written rules, and you pay close attention to social cues to learn the unwritten ones as well. You do this in order to learn how to avoid getting in trouble and how to win the approval of your superiors, to learn which sorts of behaviors can lead to raises and promotions, and which behaviors will lead to a career dead-end. You learn what will earn you a pat on the back from a leader, which can be extremely egoically gratifying and incentivizing in and of itself.
It works exactly the same way in news media. Reporters might not always be consciously aware of all the pro-establishment guidelines they’re expected to follow in order to advance their careers, but they know how the reporters who’ve ascended to the top of the media ladder conduct themselves, and they see how the journalists who win the accolades behave. With the help of editors and peers you quickly learn where all the third rails and sacred cows are, and when to shut your mouth about the elephant in the room. And for those rare times that all these filtration devices fail to adequately filter out dissident ideas, you see the example that gets made of those few who slip between the cracks, like CNN contributor Marc Lamont Hill for his defense of Palestinian human rights or Phil Donahue for his opposition to the Iraq invasion.
Last week, CNN contributor Marc Lamont Hill delivered a speech at the United Nations in support of Palestinian self-determination and equal rights. Less than 24 hours later, CNN was done with him. https://t.co/yUjw97fUb2
— Mail & Guardian (@mailandguardian) December 10, 2018
So plutocrats own the mass media and platform status quo-friendly voices, which creates an environment full of peer pressure to conform and workplace pressure to advance establishment-friendly narratives. Add to this the phenomenon of access journalism, wherein journalists are incentivized to cozy up to power and pitch softball questions to officials in order to gain access to them, and things get even more slanted. It’s easy to understand how all this can create an environment of consensus which has nothing to do with facts or reality, but rather with what narratives favor the US-centralized empire and the plutocrats who control it. But all those dynamics aren’t the only factors going into making sure a consensus worldview is maintained. Remember that hypothetical CIA officer I mentioned earlier who isn’t actively leaning over every journalist’s shoulder and dictating what they tweet? Well, just because he’s not dictating every word produced by the mass media machine doesn’t mean he’s not involved.
Secretive and unaccountable government agencies have an extensive and well-documented record of involving themselves with news media outlets. It is a known and undisputed fact that the Central Intelligence Agency has been intimately involved in America’s news media since the 1950s, and it remains so to this day. In 2014 it was a scandal when reporter Ken Dilanian was caught collaborating with the CIA in his publications, but now veterans of the US intelligence community like John Brennan and James Clapper openly fill out the line-up of talking heads on MSNBC and CNN. Just recently the Guardian published a lie-filled smear piece on Julian Assange which was almost certainly the result of the outlet’s collaboration with one or more intelligence and/or defense agencies, and when that article caused an outcry it was defended as the likely result of Russian disinformation in an evidence-free article by a CIA veteran who was permitted to publish anonymously in Politico. The Washington Post is solely owned by Jeff Bezos, who is a CIA contractor, and who we may be certain did not purchase the Post under the illusion that newspapers were about to make a lucrative comeback. Secretive government agencies are deeply involved in the workings of western news media, in many ways we know about, and in far more ways we don’t know about.
Taking all of these factors into consideration and revisiting Explanation 1 and Explanation 2 from the beginning of this article, it should be obvious to you that the most logical explanation for the uniform consensus of support for pro-establishment narratives in the mass media exists because there is indeed a system in place which keeps all mass media reporters lying to us and painting a false picture about what’s going on in the world.
This doesn’t mean that these news media outlets lie about everything all the time, it means they mostly provide half-truths, distortions and lies by omission whenever it benefits the agendas of the powerful, which is functionally the same as lying all the time. I sometimes get people telling me “Caitlin! The MSM lies all the time, and they say global warming is real! That means it’s false!” But it doesn’t work that way; if the TV tells you a celebrity has died then it’s probably true, and if they say it’s about to rain you should probably roll up your car windows. If they lied about everything all the time they would instantly lose all credibility, and their ability to propagandize effectively would be lost. Instead, they advance evidence-free narratives asserted by opaque government agencies, they avoid highlighting inconvenient truths, they ignore third parties and dissident ideas except to dismiss them, they harshly criticize the misdeeds of governments which oppose the US-centralized empire while sweeping the misdeeds of imperial members under the rug, and when there’s an opportunity to sabotage peace or support war, they seize it. They distort only when they have to, and only as much as they need to.
In this way the powerful have succeeded in controlling the people’s narratives about what’s happening in their country and their world. This is the system of narrative manipulation we are up against when we try to sow dissident ideas into public consciousness, and as the old adage goes, it is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
And yet we are gaining ground. The manipulators have been losing control of the narrative, which is why the mass media have been acting so weird and desperate since 2016. The unelected power establishment failed to manufacture support for its would-be Syria invasion, it failed to get the public to buy into the Russia hysteria, trust in the mass media is at an all-time low, and it’s continuing to plummet. More and more people are waking up to the fact that they are being lied to, which is good, because the only thing keeping them from pushing for real change is the fact that there are all these screens in everyone’s lives telling them that real change isn’t needed.
The liars are against the ropes, and they’re starting to look winded. A populist information revolution is looking more winnable than ever.
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Davy Identity Theft on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:01 am
JuanP 26th Dec 2015 on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 8:50 am
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:08 am
“We have the worlds reserve currency..Which means “Deficits don’t matter”.”
True, but everybody knows it by now and the EU has an alternative, destined to grow. And the EU has more standing in the world.
“Itlay is on the brink of total bankruptcy.And electing an Anti vaxxer pretty much seals the deal.”
Complete BS. Italy=state+public
The public is very solvent, because they are the world’s #1 tax dodgers, precisely the reason why the state has so much debt.
Median per capita wealth:
US 50k
Italy 122k
LOL
Give every Italian a forced mortage of 30k and the Italian public debt problem is solved. Current average Italian mortgage, an absurd low 17k.
Of all countries in the west, Italy has the least financial problems, the US and Greece the most.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/the-real-state-of-western-finances/
Davy on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:17 am
You make me look like I’m financially illiterate nederliar. Well I’m not. Why do you think I plan to move to Italy. Stupid
JuanP on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:35 am
Cloggie, suck my Nazi prick.
JuanP on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:41 am
Cloggie, my dad came to Uraguay in 46. He was one of Hitler’s finest. He kept a Bolivian whore and I am the prodigy hence I am a Hispanic Nazi.
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:58 am
Mob is the only one who commits identity theft.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:58 am
IMF warns storm clouds are gathering for next financial crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/11/imf-financial-crisis-david-lipton
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 10:00 am
Clogg
Italy has the third highest debt to GDP on earth..Around 125% of GDP and they have no central bank..Just like Greece they will go bankrupt soon.
Source: WSJ
https://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2017/12/29/just-four-large-countries-have-a-higher-debt-burden-than-the-u-s/
You ugly piece human garbage
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 10:02 am
Clogg
Your link was not convincing..And why do block all comments? Scared?
HAHA!
Just like you wont ask an expert about WW2..I have proven you are a liar and mentally ill!
Just an old alone ugly man who hates the world (Misanthrope)
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 10:07 am
Clogg
Macron’s concessions set to blow out French deficit
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-france-protests-idUKKBN1OA14J?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5c0fbe3404d3014199f4521f&utm_medium=trueAnthem
And France to the list of soon to be bankrupt!
HAHAHHA!
You’re seeing the fall of Europe in real time !
Turd Blossom Davy on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 10:29 am
Davy, enough with placing your cock in a sock 24/7.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 11:03 am
After January 1, Tesla’s government tax credit will shrink from $7,500 to $3,750. And beginning in 2020 they will not receive a federal tax credit.
That means those who are waiting for the $35,000 base-priced version of Tesla’s Model 3 sedan will not be eligible for the tax credit..The least expensive Model 3 currently available starts at $49,000.
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-refund-customers-cant-get-tax-credit-before-deadline-2018-12
Davy sock obv. on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 11:34 am
JuanP on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:35 am
Cloggie, suck my Nazi prick.
Davy sock obv. on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 11:36 am
JuanP on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:41 am
Cloggie, my dad came to Uraguay in 46. He was one of Hitler’s finest. He kept a Bolivian whore and I am the prodigy hence I am a Hispanic Nazi.
Mob is the only one who commits identity theft. on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 11:45 am
Lol
Davy Identity Theft Obv.
JuanP on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:35 am
Cloggie, suck my Nazi prick.
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 12:48 pm
China vs the Five Eyes
http://www.voltairenet.org/article204264.html
“Washington has asked Ottawa to arrest Meng Wanzhou and to extradite her. This young woman is the financial director and daughter of the founder of Huawei, the Chinese Telecom Giant. She was arrested on 6 December in Canada.”
The heart of the problem is that the Chinese firm uses a system of encryption that prevents the NSA from intercepting its communications.
“ A number of governments and secret services in the non-Western world have begun to equip themselves exclusively with Huawei materials, and are doing so to protect the confidentiality of their communications.”
“The Five Eyes is a system of electronic espionage by Australia, Canada, the United States, New Zealand and the United Kingdom. They have begun to exclude Huawei from their auctions.”
Five Eyes, 1945 relic, defending the cause globalism, turning into a race to the bottom.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 1:23 pm
Clogg
You better watch out for those black helicopters coming to get you!
Right wingers are all paranoid nut jobs now!
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 2:03 pm
Brexit unraveling: current deal or no deal.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6482513/PM-frantic-tour-EU-capitals-battles-save-Brexit-plan.html
May should initiate vote NOW and predictably will be defeated.
But at least British politics would be forced to search for a plan b… only to arrive at the inevitable conclusion that it is either that or no deal.
There is a good chance that a few days before 29 March the deal will be pushed through the house in a 2nd attempt.
And if not, it was nice having known you.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 2:09 pm
Mass shooting in France! You’re seeing the fall of Europe in real time!
Strasbourg shooting: at least one killed at Christmas market
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/11/strasbourg-shooting-in-eastern-france
onlooker on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 2:15 pm
Haha, Mob, Cloggie will not admit it, but he must be squirming. Europe is imploding
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 2:40 pm
“Mass shooting in France! You’re seeing the fall of Europe in real time!:
“Mass shooting” —> 1 dead.
“Haha, Mob, Cloggie will not admit it, but he must be squirming. Europe is imploding”
Keep on hoping onlooker, but for real mass shootings you have to be in the US. And your demographics are far worse as compared to Europe:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2018/05/21/european-america-is-over/
Enjoy your life as a third worlder! Wait until the bills come once the left will be in the majority… for ever. I feel sorry for you.lol
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 2:48 pm
Onlooker
Brexit: stage one in Europe’s slow-burn energy collapse
The Brexit fiasco and French riots are accelerating symptoms of Europe’s earth system crisis
Europe is now a ‘post-peak oil’ continent. Currently, every single major oil producer in Western Europe is in decline. According to data from BP’s 2018 Statistical Review of Energy, Western European oil production peaked between 1996 and 2002. Since then, production had declined while net imports have gradually increased.
In a two-part study published in 2016 and 2017 in the Springer journal, BioPhysical Economics and Resource Quality, Michael Dittmar, Senior Scientist at the ETH Zurich Institute for Particle Physics and CERN, developed a new empirical model of oil production and consumption.
The study provides perhaps one of the most empirically-robust models of oil production and consumption to date, but its forecast was sobering.
Noting that oil exports from Russia and former Soviet Union countries are set to decline, Dittmar found that Western Europe will find it difficult to replace these lost exports. As a result, “total consumption in Western Europe is predicted to be about 20 percent lower in 2020 than it was in 2015.”
On the other hand, the Russian government’s own energy experts are worried. In September 2018, Russia’s energy minister Alexander Novak warned that Russia’s oil production might peak within three years due to mounting production costs and taxes. In the ensuing two decades, Russia could lose almost half its current capacity. This sobering assessment is still broadly consistent with the Oxford study.
https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/brexit-stage-one-in-europes-slow-burn-energy-collapse-1f520d7e2d89
Once Europe collapses we can steal their industries again like during WW2 when we demolished Germany!
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 3:07 pm
I AM THE FLOP/Apneaman is pushing his beloved closet “British” Islamist Nafeez Ahmed again.
Both Brexit and the Yellow Vests are clear signs of the US empire in state of dissolution and identitarianism surfacing, replacing US oligarch globalism.
The British are leaving because they are no Europeans, never were and never will be. President de Gaulle knew them very well from WW2, when he was already a closet enemy of the Anglos, not because he was ungrateful to his “liberators”, but because he knew exactly the game murderous Anglos and Soviets were playing: intentionally colonizing Europe. Good riddance to the British.
The Yellow Vests is essentially a white insurrection movement, that does not call itself as such. But that won’t be long until they will. It fits perfectly in a general European movement towards the right.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 3:16 pm
Clogg
There is no proof to any of your paranoia and hate..Europe is on the brink and going to collapse again..And we will steal all of their industries..
Maybe if they didn’t waste billions on stupid wind and solar..
LMFAO!
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 3:23 pm
“Once Europe collapses we can steal their industries again like during WW2 when we demolished Germany!”
Nothing is forgotten, apneaman. And it won’t be long until our self-styled “exceptionalists” will be at the mercy of 2000 million Eurasians. The End of the American Era will be brutal and on North-American soil:
https://www.amazon.com/End-American-Era-Geopolitics-Twenty-first/dp/0375726594/ref=sr_1_3
But no hurry, patiently wait for the inevitable denouement of the Trump presidency and standoff with the US deep state and white escape attempt:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2018/06/11/cw2-brewing/
https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-Superpower-Will-America-Survive-ebook/dp/B004YD36HS/ref=sr_1_1
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 3:39 pm
Clogg
Your evidence isn’t really very convincing..Especially citing a book from an old ignorant dough boy like Pat Buchanan..
We have the reserve currency and our oil supplies covered!
You don’t..So you collapse!
LMFAO!
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 3:41 pm
“Justice” in America:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/charlottesville-jury-empfiehlt-lebenslange-haft-fuer-james-fields-a-1243221.html
Jury wants life imprisonment + 419 years, merely for manslaughter, reinterpreted as murder.
Crime: being white.
That’s what you get in a society run by the likes of mobster, davy, paultard and onlooker.
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 3:48 pm
“We have the reserve currency and our oil supplies covered!
You don’t..So you collapse!”
We have Russia, Norway. And in case of emergency, trillions of tons of coal under the Northsea, sufficient for centuries.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/fracking-is-for-amateurs/
But by 2030 we’ll have at least 30% primary energy renewable and that is enough to survive. It’s the energy level of the seventies, we were already happy then:
https://youtu.be/3FsVeMz1F5c
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 4:16 pm
May could very well be on the verge of being sacked by her own conservatives:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6482739/Ex-minister-Steve-Baker-urges-Tory-MPs-send-no-confidence-letters-May.html
Not that it matters. Regardless of whoever takes over, Corbyn, Johnson, whoever, the choice is either the Barnier-Raab deal or no deal.
Continental Europe of 440 million is now the senior, Britain of 60 million the junior. The British are now the neighbor of a new geopolitical giant with two times the amount of Euro’s as America has. And with Russia, Ukraine and Belorus, Georgia, Armenia, etc., THREE times as much.
Better don’t make us angry. We are going to take over from America and together with the Chinese build a new multipolar world order, post pax-Americana.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 4:29 pm
CLogg
Coal under the sea? HAAHAHAHH!
You are grasping at straws..And Russia is peaking soon..
You ignorant duffus !
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 4:31 pm
Clogg
I hope your nazi friend likes Prison..I bet he someone’s bitch right away! I hope he gets sodomized till he bleeds
Another low iq conservative out of the gene pool!
HAHHA!
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 4:34 pm
Europe is falling!
For the 7th day in a row, students in Albania are demonstrating against high fees in public Universities
https://i.redd.it/7zaq1uaq8n321.jpg
LMFAO!
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 4:44 pm
Clogg is a witless incel!
Merry Christmas by yourself with no kids and no woman..Just like a nazi deserves!
LMFAO!
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 5:21 pm
Tear down this…middle class.
https://i.redd.it/jlx0ktlrjp321.jpg
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 5:25 pm
Have been picking up watching the BBC news flagship program Newsnight again since the Brexit circus got into the hot phase. Tonight they confirmed that a leadership challenge is very likely underway in a matter of days, which will only add more confusion and delay to the “decision process”.
It doesn’t matter. Voices from Brussels all talk unisono politely but determined rule out any concessions. This is it. Take it or leave it.
makati1 on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 5:36 pm
Guys, the West is going down. That includes both the US and Europe. The Great Leveling is underway. Get out of the box and take a clear look at current events over the last 10-15 years and you can see the trend. It is reaching the last days so it is more blatant than before. Soon, even the deepest deniers will have to admit it. I hope you are preparing for the chaos. Hint: Don’t rely on ATMs, plastic cards and your fiat/faux (4 letter word) cash. Have real things in your hand and zero debt, if possible.
Davy on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 5:40 pm
Your coming too billy quit playing the daily finger pointing game. At least in the west overpopulation is not as severe. Europe and the US can feed themselves, Asia can’t.
makati1 on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 6:50 pm
Davy, all you do is point your finger and blame others. I am just pointing out the obvious to the brainwashed debt serfs of America and I will continue to do so as long as the internet lasts.
Europe and the US CANNOT feed themselves. Maybe you need to get educated and not suck up so much government koolaid? Both import a large percentage of their food AND necessities. Not to mention climate changes that will change the food patterns.
When the financial crash happens, most of the US’ oil will evaporate as the fraking money pit closes and Europe begs Russia for oil and NG. You are blinded by your arrogance and stupidity, Davy.
I might suffer a bit, but not nearly as much as you will. I don’t have to worry about freezing, starving or being homeless. I live with people who are self sufficient and sharing, not the greedy, stupid unskilled Americans. Yes, I have family there, but I have invited them to live with me. It is their decision and not mine. They are mature, intelligent adults and responsible for themselves and their family. Not me. Been there, done that, retired and free.
BTW: You lump a lot of countries into your distorted vision of Asia. About like my lumping all of Canada, Mexico, Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, The Bahamas, and all of the Caribbean island countries into the US and saying that you are all alike. The Philippines is NOT Bangladesh.
Davy on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 7:11 pm
“I am just pointing out the obvious to the brainwashed debt serfs of America and I will continue to do so as long as the internet lasts.”
As long as you are here I will neuter your nasty message of distortions packaged for your own self-serving purposes. You could give a shit about the truth.
“Europe and the US CANNOT feed themselves.”
Sure we can and we help feed Asia
“Maybe you need to get educated and not suck up so much government koolaid? Both import a large percentage of their food AND necessities.”
We import luxury foods and out of season foods. That could all change if push came to shove. In Asia the shove is hunger and starvation depending on where you are at.
“When the financial crash happens, most of the US’ oil will evaporate as the fraking money pit closes and Europe begs Russia for oil and NG.”
Looks like China is going down as we speak. Europe may beat them. The US will follow.
“You are blinded by your arrogance and stupidity, Davy.”
There billy goes with the childish insults
“I might suffer a bit, but not nearly as much as you will.”
I will be OK billy, I have family and a big farm to live off of. I am not a lonely old man with no life like you.
“I don’t have to worry about freezing, starving or being homeless.”
You need to worry about being homeless if the boyfriend kicks you out. I have wood heat and lots of trees so I don’t worry about freezing. You need to worry about super typhoons, billy. If one hits you will be homeless.
“ I live with people who are self sufficient and sharing”
Sure they are billy until the food runs out then that will change
“Yes, I have family there, but I have invited them to live with me. It is their decision and not mine. “
Billy, they don’t want to live in a 3rd world country with no life.
“Not me. Been there, done that, retired and free.”
You are delusional if you think you are free.
“BTW: You lump a lot of countries into your distorted vision of Asia.”
LOL, listen to billy who lumps all western countries into his “WEST”. Right billy distorted visions.
Davy signing off until morning on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 7:14 pm
tell the lunatic juanp to have fun tonight with his identity theft and socks. billy and neder, you guys party it up. Davy is going to bed to read. Not like anything is happening here.
Davy is a dumbass on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 7:19 pm
Poor widdle Davy. Sounds like cabin fever has already set in. Only 5 more months of winter left to go before growing season starts again.
Location is everything.
makati1 on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 8:00 pm
“How Democracy Is Losing the World”
“…what will a watching world be thinking when it sees the once-great republic preoccupied with breaking yet another president?…
Among the reasons democracy is in discredit and retreat worldwide is that its exemplar and champion, the USA, is beginning to resemble France’s Third Republic in its last days before World War II….
democracy no longer has the field largely to itself as to how to create a prosperous and powerful nation-state. This century, China has shown aspiring rulers how a single-party regime can create a world power, and how democracy is not a necessary precondition for extraordinary economic progress….
Vladimir Putin, an autocratic nationalist, has shown how a ruined nation can be restored to a great power in the eyes of its people and the world, commanding a new deference and respect….
The diversity our democracy has on offer is not selling.”
https://buchanan.org/blog/how-democracy-is-losing-the-world-130768
“We are an unserious nation, engaged in trivial pursuits, in a deadly serious world.”
Slip slidin’…
Duncan Idaho on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 8:01 pm
“Earthlings do not yet know the meaning of suffering.”
— Morbo the Annihilator
makati1 on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 8:06 pm
Delusional Davy bedding down with the goats to keep warm. Has no real rebuttal so he signs off.
Davy, the West is ALL going down. Read the news. I don’t lump it, the world does. But your trying to say that Bangladesh is typical of Asia is pure lying. But then, that is all you do. I could say Haiti is typical of America but I am not that stupid. America is going down. Only the blind cannot see the swirl.
“We are an unserious nation, engaged in trivial pursuits, in a deadly serious world.” LMAO!
makati1 on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 8:13 pm
Davy, your long list of rebuttal is worthless as you are just trying to justify your lies.
You don’t own a farm, you daddy does, and it will not be there if the government takes it for back taxes.
You have no real loving family and no friends. You already admitted that previously. Two failed marriages.
I could go on but it is a waste of time. You are a zero Davy. You are trying to pretend that the US is the best place to be when the SHTF but you are going to find that it is one of the worse places to be then. Wait and see.
Your arrogant, bullying personality will insure that you will be killed early in the chaos.
makati1 on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 8:19 pm
Duncan, you might modify that to say:
“Some earthlings don’t know the meaning of suffering”
Obviously Morbo has never been to the 3rd world.
And, yes, I know who Morbo, the cartoon character, is. ^_^
Anonymouse on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 8:36 pm
It is not even been established that ‘dad’ owns any farm either Mak. The excpetionalturd is clearly a rural dweller yes, but we know he is from the impoverished and marginalized segment of the amerikan underclass. How he initially acquired or manages to keep living on the few paltry acres he imagines represent his vast agricultural empire, is really, of no real importance.
The important thing is, is not to lend any credibility, or stoke his immense ego, by believing his (implied) claims to any sort of wealth and or privilege(lol).These are simply by-products of his delusional state, coupled with an immense ego. Nothing more.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:29 pm
I am watching the science channel about nuclear war..And they said the US has nuclear missile defense in Europe that can block Russia..
HAHA!
makati1 on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:32 pm
Anon, I am reasonably sure you are correct. He has been denying things he professed long ago. From his lack of skills, including a terrible personality, I think he does not have a “farm” of any kind. Maybe a few acres of backwoods land that, likely, the bank owns.
As for family, again I doubt it. If he did marry, she is long gone. I cannot imagine anyone staying with someone like him for very long. I see a typical stereotype picture like this when I see his name.
http://lat.mixnews.lv/lv/mixer/1000_foto-dzosua-varozza-jauna-gada-seksa-simbols/
Have a great day!
makati1 on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 9:36 pm
MOB, I agree. The US has nothing that can block Russia’s newest missile systems, however the Russians do have a very efficient antimissile system to keep Russia safe.