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America doesn’t win wars anymore

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A month into his presidency, Donald Trump lamented that the US no longer wins wars as it once did.

“When I was young, in high school and college, everybody used to say we never lost a war,” Trump told a group of US governors last February. “Now, we never win a war.”

Dominic Tierney, a professor at Swarthmore College and the author of multiple books about how America wages war, may know the reason why.

He believes the US can still successfully fight the wars of yesteryear — World War-style conflicts — but hasn’t yet mastered how to win wars against insurgents, which are smaller fights against groups within countries. The problem is the US continues to involve itself in those kinds of fights.

“We’re still stuck in this view that war is like the Super Bowl: We meet on the field, both sides have uniforms, we score points, someone wins, and when the game ends you go home,” he told me. “That’s not what war is like now.”

The US military is currently mired in conflicts in countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen. It’s hard to see any end in sight — especially an end where the United States is the victor, however that’s defined.

A lightly edited transcript of our conversation follows.

Alex Ward

During his first year in office, Trump got the US more deeply involved in wars, with the goal of defeating terrorists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Somalia. But has this put the US on course to end these fights?

Dominic Tierney

Victory may be asking a lot.

Since 1945, the United States has very rarely achieved meaningful victory. The United States has fought five major wars — Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan — and only the Gulf War in 1991 can really be classified as a clear success.

There are reasons for that, primarily the shift in the nature of war to civil conflicts, where the United States has struggled. Trump himself recognized this: He said on the campaign trail numerous times that we used to win wars and we don’t win anymore. And he has promised to turn the page on this era of defeat and said that we were going to get sick and tired of winning.

But will he channel that observation into winning wars? I doubt it.

The nature of war continues to be these difficult internal conflicts in places like Afghanistan, where the United States has struggled long before Trump ever dreamed of running for president.

Alex Ward

So what constitutes victory in war today, and has that changed from the past?

Dominic Tierney

The famous war theorist Carl von Clausewitz argued that war is the continuation of politics by other means. So war is not just about blowing things up — it’s about achieving political goals.

The United States, up until 1945, won virtually all the major wars that it fought. The reason is those wars were overwhelmingly wars between countries. The US has always been very good at that.

But that kind of war has become the exception. If you look around the world today, about 90 percent of wars are civil wars. These are complex insurgencies, sometimes involving different rebel groups, where the government faces a crisis of legitimacy.

The US has found, for various reasons, that it’s far more difficult to achieve its goals in these cases. The three longest wars in US history are Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan — all from recent decades, all these complex types of civil wars.

Alex Ward

On its face, this seems to be a paradox: The US can win on the battlefield against a major military force, but we can’t seem to win these smaller wars.

Dominic Tierney

Yes. And even more surprising: It’s when the US became a superpower and created the best-trained, strongest military the world has ever seen, around 1945, that the US stopped winning wars.

The answer to the puzzle is that American power turned out to be a double-edged sword.

The US was so powerful after World War II, especially after the Soviet Union disappeared, that Washington was tempted to intervene in distant conflicts around the world in places like Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

We ended up intervening in countries where we had little cultural understanding. To illustrate this, in 2006 — at the height of the Iraq War — there were 1,000 officials in the US embassy in Baghdad, but only six of them spoke Arabic.

In addition, the US military has failed to adapt to this new era of war. The US military has this playbook for success against countries: technology, big-unit warfare, and so on. And when we started fighting insurgents, it was natural that we would turn to that same playbook.

Alex Ward

So we might not have much cultural understanding of the places where we’re fighting, but we have greater technology and better fighting forces. Why can’t we overcome this obstacle?

Dominic Tierney

The reason, again, comes down to the difference between an interstate [more traditional] war and a counterinsurgency, or nation-building mission.

One difference is that we cannot easily see the enemy. In an interstate war, the enemy is wearing uniforms, we know where they are on a map. In a counterinsurgency they are hiding in the population.

Now, the US military is capable of hitting any target with pinpoint accuracy using the latest hardware. But what if we don’t know where the enemy is? A lot of that technology, which is really impressive, turns out to be irrelevant.

Alex Ward

It seems like we have two problems here. We haven’t corrected our way of thinking to deal with insurgencies or civil wars, and then we keep getting involved in those kinds of wars, despite the fact that we’re ill-prepared to deal with them.

Why do we keep falling into this trap?

Dominic Tierney

One answer is we basically believe in illusions — the idea that nation-building and counterinsurgency will be avoided.

Look at Iraq, where the United States believed it could topple Saddam Hussein and basically leave as quickly as possible. We would overthrow the tyrant and then the Iraqi people would be free to create their own democracy. That was based on massive overconfidence about what would happen after Hussein fell.

So why do we go to war if we hate counterinsurgency and we struggle at it? The reason is the White House convinces itself it doesn’t need to stabilize or help rebuild a country after a war. But it’s not just the Bush administration — think of the Obama administration too.

Barack Obama was a very thoughtful president and talked at length about his foreign policy thinking. At the heart of the Obama doctrine was “no more Iraq War.” And yet he basically made the same mistake in Libya, where there was very little planning for what would occur after Muammar Qaddafi was overthrown in 2011. In fact, Obama went on the record saying that the Libya intervention was his worst mistake a president.

Alex Ward

So if it really is a bunch of wishful illusions and incorrect assumptions, how do we avoid that? We have tons of evidence that things don’t go our way when we get involved in these kinds of wars. We don’t seem to learn from our mistakes.

Dominic Tierney

We don’t learn very well from history. Presidents convince themselves that the next time will be different.

The lesson Obama took from Iraq was not to allow any US ground forces to get involved in nation-building. Since Obama was willing to support regime change, the end result was going to be the overthrow of Qaddafi with no real plan to stabilize Libya.

If a thoughtful president like Obama — who was very cognizant of the errors of Iraq — can do that, it suggests that any president would be capable of doing that.

Alex Ward

It seems like one of the problems is that we’re involving ourselves in these wars with little preparation. How do we solve that?

Dominic Tierney

We need better language training, cultural training, more resources for special forces — and that would mean less money spent on nuclear attack submarines, for example.

Second, once we improve America’s ability for stabilization missions, we deploy the US military with greater care and fight fewer wars. That means when we do fight, we have a better plan to win the peace.

Alex Ward

But then there’s another problem: Sometimes groups like ISIS arise, and US leaders and many Americans want the military to take them out. So when the president is faced with the option to target a group like ISIS with airpower, some would argue that it’s better, politically, to do that.

Dominic Tierney

The US doesn’t think several moves ahead. The US military is good at taking out bad guys. But the removal of the bad guy creates a power vacuum, and that power vacuum is filled by somebody else.

In Afghanistan, we created disorder and then the Taliban returned — the power vacuum there was also filled by ISIS. And in Iraq, the vacuum was filled by militant groups, most notably al-Qaeda in Iraq. In Libya, the vacuum was filled by a complicated range of militant groups.

The mood in the US is: “We just killed ISIS, let’s go home and close the book on the ISIS war.” Well, there’s more to the story.

Alex Ward

The Trump administration says it will pay less attention to defeating terrorists and will now focus more on battling back growing Chinese and Russian power.

That new strategic focus means we’ll change the kinds of weapons we buy and the kind of training our troops do. But I don’t see the US stopping its fight against terrorism. Does this preparation for a different style of war — while still fighting another — put the US in an awkward position?

Dominic Tierney

I think it does.

There is a desire to shift from difficult nation-building missions toward countering great-power challengers like Russia and especially China. But this isn’t very new. The Obama administration wanted to pivot to Asia and the China challenge. And then what happened? We ended up being engaged against ISIS.

I tend to think that the pivot to China is sort of like Waiting for Godot — it never arrives. And I think the United States is going to get drawn back into these civil wars and these kinds of messy conflicts, particularly in the broader Middle East. The odds of conflict between the US and China are very low; the odds of the US engaging in another civil war in the next five years are extremely high.

Alex Ward

Based on this conversation, victory in war seems to be how we define it, or, rather, will it to be. The US sets its victory goals low, but we don’t even meet those lower goals. Why can’t we get over this hump?

Dominic Tierney

We’re still stuck in this view that war is like the Super Bowl: We meet on the field, both sides have uniforms, we score points, someone wins, and when the game ends you go home. That’s not what war is like now. Now there are tons of civilians on the field, the enemy team doesn’t wear a uniform, and the game never ends. We need to know there’s no neat ending.

The costs of this problem have been so catastrophic for the United States, in the form of thousands of military lives and billions of dollars spent. It’s time we fundamentally rethink our vision of what war is.

VOX



364 Comments on "America doesn’t win wars anymore"

  1. Davy on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 1:32 pm 

    Back on topic dumbasses

    “America doesn’t win wars anymore”

    I prefer to say: ‘We don’t lose wars any less.’

    Makes us sound more powerful that way.

  2. Davy on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 1:42 pm 

    “Back on topic dumbasses”

    juanpee, when have you ever been on topic in the last year?

    like this Davy ID theft quote?? Stupid fuck
    “I prefer to say: ‘We don’t lose wars any less.”

    juanpee go home to your failed south America. Americans don’t want undocumented stealing illegals in our country

  3. Davy on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 1:51 pm 

    The topic of the article up for discussion hurts my feelings real bad.

    “America doesn’t win wars anymore”

    That’s why I plug the discussion up with so much off topic spam.

  4. Davy on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 1:55 pm 

    “The topic of the article up for discussion hurts my feelings real bad.”

    Why would it juanpee, dumbass?

    “That’s why I plug the discussion up with so much off topic spam.”

    all the spam is related to you juanpee and your ID theft bullshit

  5. Anonymouse on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 2:08 pm 

    Is the exceptionalturd still claiming he has a ‘permaculture farm’ somewhere? Where did he do that? Did he also claim he works this ‘farm’ non-stop from sun up to sundown too? RoFL.

    Bonus points if he mentioned the ‘Italian wife’ and the solar panel array.

  6. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 2:15 pm 

    Germany: ‘Meat tax’ on the table to protect the climate

    https://www.dw.com/en/germany-meat-tax-on-the-table-to-protect-the-climate/a-49924795

    Those big bearded German girls won’t like this!

    HAHA!

  7. Anonymouse on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 2:15 pm 

    Juan, you and I can rule this site just like we do on our Xbox. Do you want to connect on FaceBook?

  8. Anonymouse on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 2:18 pm 

    “Bigger And More Violent”: Beijing Admits Hong Kong In Worst Crisis Since 1997 Handover
    Some 500 political and business leaders including 200 local deputies of China’s top legislature, the National People’s Congress, as well as pro-Beijing Hong Kong execs and chamber of commerce officials gathered Wednesday to discuss the ongoing Hong Kong unrest triggered by the proposed extradition bill earlier this summer. Unlike prior similar gatherings in mainland China of top officials, there was reportedly little attempt to soften the full blown reality, as the group was told the protest crisis is assuredly becoming “bigger and more violent”. The assessment was issued by Zhang Xiaoming, director of Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office under the State Council, as reported by the South China Morning Post. Zhang presented that Beijing views the Hong Kong situation the “most serious situation” since 1997, the year of the handover of Hong Kong when the UK formally ceded control of its colony. Zhang Xiaoming, director of Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office under the State Council, making remarks to the media, via Visual China Group/Getty “From June 9 until now, the extradition saga has lasted 60 days. It has grown bigger, with violent acts getting more intense, and wider sections of society being affected,” Zhang said. “We can say Hong Kong is facing the most serious situation since handover,” he added. “Therefore, this meeting is very important and special.” The meeting constituted a rare such briefing sponsored by the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office, which reportedly hadn’t taken such action since Hong Kong’s handover from Britain to China. The 500 high-powered attendees were invited to discuss the situation following two hours of formal remarks. Beijing officials sought a forum to “speak more frankly” to accurately address the severity of the crisis. “The biggest difference is that today’s seminar is convened when Hong Kong’s situation is very unstable,” Zhang said further in his remarks, the few opening minutes of which were made while media was present, after which it became close door. “Whenever any major political or legal issue arises in the implementation of ‘one country, two systems’ and the Basic Law, the central government would listen to your views and advice, and communicate, so that our decisions and policies can be more compatible with the actual situation in Hong Kong.” BREAKING – Fighting has broken out at North Point between Protesters and local residents. #HongKongProtests #HongKong pic.twitter.com/6MarDFjeAP — Michael Zhang 張雨軒 (@YuxuanMichael) August 5, 2019 Zhang said with media still present: “The central government is highly concerned about the situation in Hong Kong, and have been making plans from a strategic level and with the full picture in mind.” Early this week the situation in Hong Kong has been rapidly deteriorating, with violence breaking out in several locations Monday and Tuesday as a citywide strike crippled transportation. Riot police used crowd control measures in about a half dozen locations – targeting those filing the streets. Close to a hundred people people were arrested upon the start of the week for offences including rioting, unlawful assembly, assaulting a police officer, obstructing police and possession of offensive weapons.

  9. Anonymouse on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 2:19 pm 

    There back on topic

  10. Duncan Idaho on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 2:21 pm 

    1960 — Cuba: Fidel Castro announces plans to nationalize all American holdings. US & the Mafia, which had controlled the economy, takes the moral high ground, begins its non-stop campaign to assassinate him.

    (Fidel died of old age)

  11. Anonymouse on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 2:33 pm 

    (Fidel died of old age)

    Did you know Juan Pablo was his ebony twink lover?

  12. Cloggie on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 3:10 pm 

    Britain terminates 46 year membership of Interrail (one month through Europe for a flat fee), claims it has nothing to do with Brexit.lol

    https://www.politico.eu/article/british-train-companies-quit-interrail/

    The Great Unraveling has begun.

    Eurovision Song Festival?
    Champions League?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7333823/Dominic-Raab-talks-post-Brexit-trade-deal-surprise-Donald-Trump-meeting.html

    “US has a ‘huge appetite’ for a post-Brexit trade deal says Dominic Raab after he has a surprise Oval Office meeting with Donald Trump who ‘expressed his high regard for Boris Johnson as a Prime Minister'”

    Huge appetite? Uh-oh.

    And… is it impolite to ask what is in it for the UK?

    The Great Geopolitical Refactoring is underway. BoJo has been appointed to bring Britain (England?) in safety, for kosher interests that is.

    Ah well, we get Russia and Ukraine (bottom map):

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/which-future-world/

    Downhill, wherever you look:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7334249/Ex-British-Airways-chief-says-airline-no-better-easyJet-12-hour-glitch.html

    “‘BA’s glory days are well behind it’: Ex-British Airways chief says airline is now ‘no better than easyJet’ after 12-hour IT glitch sparks 127 flight cancellations and an £8m compensation bill for 20,000 passengers”

  13. Cloggie on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 3:16 pm 

    “Foyle’s War”

    Do I have a treat for you!

    Magnificent modern day WW2 propaganda.
    With an explanation by me.
    Work in progress, will steadily add new observations.

    Have in the mean time watched 4/16 of my Foyle-CDs for a second time, after I bought them all in perhaps ca 2007.

    But in 2019 I understand much more of WW1/WW2 and with Brexit coming up, the time has arrived to start a revisionist campaign, just in case the UK and EU get embroiled with each other and the time will be rife to pull the plug on the propaganda, we have been fed for decades and that only benefits those who are gradually morphing in our adversaries.

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2019/08/07/foyles-war-kosher-ww2-lies/

  14. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 3:26 pm 

    Shale companies have few locations left to drill, Goldman warns

    https://seekingalpha.com/news/3487827-concho-shale-companies-locations-left-drill-goldman-warns#email_link

    Anyone seen plan B laying around?

  15. Davy on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 3:27 pm 

    Thanks for getting the discussion back on topic Anonymouse.

    I’d like to add that US meddling in Hong Kong is an act of desperation, cause we can’t win wars anymore. It’s also going to backfire in our faces real bad this time.

  16. Davy on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 4:49 pm 

    “I’d like to add that US meddling in Hong Kong is an act of desperation, cause we can’t win wars anymore. It’s also going to backfire in our faces real bad this time.”

    Juanpee, do you have proof for the above ID theft Davy comment? Your word is as good as a soft turd.

  17. Anonymous on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 4:51 pm 

    Juan, I stand by my reference. Chinks are taking over my Vancouver Island. Let’s stop the slant eyes on their side of the Pacific.

  18. XinhuaNET on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 5:46 pm 

    “Hands off Hong Kong, you meddling U.S. politicians”

    BEIJING, Aug. 6 (Xinhua) — Some politicians from the United States have recently come out to bolster radical rioters in Hong Kong. They must withdraw their dirty hands from meddling in Hong Kong affairs any further.

    “It began with some people touting violent acts as “peaceful demonstrations” and then Nancy Pelosi, speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, blatantly lent her support to violent lawbreakers.”

    “The words and deeds of some people in the United States once again exposed their ill-intention to harm Hong Kong and disrupt China.”

    “Violence is a poison to the rule of law, turmoil an enemy to prosperity.”

    “People like Pelosi turn a blind eye to the lawless deeds done by violent radicals. They chose not to see just and righteous actions taken by the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region government and police, just as they kept mum on the prevalence of police brutality in their own country.”

    “When they stir up violence in Hong Kong using “democracy” and “freedom” as a pretext, do they have any sense of shame?”

    “Hong Kong belongs to China, and this is something that will never change.”

    “No attempt to interfere in Hong Kong affairs and jeopardize the stability of Hong Kong will succeed. It will be firmly opposed by nearly 1.4 billion Chinese people including Hong Kong compatriots.”’

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-08/07/c_138288685.htm

  19. Stars and Stripes on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 6:34 pm 

    Stick your HK up your ass.

  20. Anonymouse on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 6:37 pm 

    Heavy Clashes Erupt Between Indian, Pakistani Forces In Kashmir
    Reuters reports intense clashes broke out Wednesday along the Line of Control in contested Kashmir between Indian and Pakistani troops.

    Citing local media, Reuters described that “troops on the border had exchanged heavy fire and that Pakistani troops have fired mortars in the clashes.” The exchange of fire took place according to local media at the Sunderbani Sector along the Line of Control (LOC) after 10pm local time, with each side blaming the other for breaching a ceasefire.

  21. Gaia on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 6:39 pm 

    Canadian maple syrup is good for you

  22. makati1 on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 6:54 pm 

    If all of the bullshit in the comments above were spread on a field in Kansas, the corn would grow 20 feet high.

    Meanwhile, in the US Police State Gulag…

    “Consumer Credit Rises To Record $4.1 Trillion As Student, Auto Loans Hit All Time High”

    “Here Are The Signs The US Gov’t Is Preparing For Farmageddon”

    “We’re All Enemies Of The State: Draconian Laws, Precrime & The Surveillance State ”

    Truth or fiction? We shall see.

  23. Duncan Idaho on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 7:01 pm 

    makati1- late stage capitalism was never going to be fun-

  24. XinhuaNet on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 7:15 pm 

    “China opposes U.S. interference in Venezuela’s internal affairs”

    “BEIJING, Aug. 7 (Xinhua) — A foreign ministry spokesperson said on Wednesday that China opposes U.S. interference in Venezuela’s internal affairs, urging the United States to stop its bullying behavior of wantonly suppressing the other country.”

    “”We have to point out that which political party rules a country is a domestic issue and should be decided by its people,” spokesperson Hua Chunying said.”

    “Hua’s remarks came after U.S. President Donald Trump issued an executive order on Monday to freeze the Venezuelan government’s assets in the United States.
    “What the United States said and did constitutes gross interference in Venezuela’s internal affairs and severely violates the basic norms governing international relations. China firmly opposes that,” she said.”

    “Facts have proven time and again that sanctions will never help resolve the Venezuelan issue. Instead, they will only increase the risk of the situation getting out of control, she added.”

    “”China urges the U.S. to face up to the essence of the Venezuelan issue, return to the right path of respecting the international law, and support the dialogue process of the Venezuelan government and the opposition,” she said.”

    “In response to U.S. National Security Adviser John Bolton’s warnings to China and Russia against supporting the Maduro government, Hua called on the United States to draw lessons from history and give up sowing discord immediately.”

    “China-Venezuela cooperation, conducted legitimately with equality, mutual benefit, win-win results and market principles, has delivered benefits to the two countries and peoples and brooks no interference from others, the spokesperson said.”

    “”China is fully convinced that the China-Venezuela cooperation will go on as usual no matter how the situation changes,” she said.”

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-08/08/c_138291576.htm

  25. Who am I on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 7:57 pm 

    Who am I?

    I’m a trust fund baby who leeches off family trust for money, flies on family jet;

    Never worked a single day;

    Poses as Ozark deplorable;

    Drives pick-up truck replete with mud;

    REAL Green DEEP Adaptation (excluding central air conditioning units);

    Everything is for keeping up appearances.

  26. Davy on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 7:57 pm 

    “Stars and Stripes on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 6:34 pm
    Stick your HK up your ass.”

    Comments like this make me feel so ashamed to be American.

  27. Cloggie on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 8:59 pm 

    Trump not backing down over shooting sprees:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/07/politics/donald-trump-political-rhetoric-el-paso-dayton-visits/index.html

    “Trump undercuts plea for unity with return to political attacks throughout his trip”

    Four.More.Years!

  28. Tom on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 9:05 pm 

    The US did not win WWII, the Russians did. The US waited until the European countries were completely exhausted in numerous ways before the US entered the war at the last minute in order to control the peace process. The war of 1812 was a draw. Just when did the US last win a war? 1776? (That being said, the US has obviously won the economic “wars” and obviously has place US military on nearly every country on earth in the name of “freedom”.

  29. Tom on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 9:06 pm 

    The US did not win WWII, the Russians did. The US waited until the European countries were completely exhausted in numerous ways before the US entered WWI at the last minute in order to control the peace process. The war of 1812 was a draw. Just when did the US last win a war? 1776? (That being said, the US has obviously won the economic “wars” and obviously has place US military on nearly every country on earth in the name of “freedom”.

  30. Davy on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 9:29 pm 

    Well Tom. We might have won our independence in 1776, but we lost that same independence back to them in 1913. So in the end the reality is we lost that one too.

  31. Davy on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 10:15 pm 

    Do you like my sock-puppeting and identity theft? Hardly any of the comments above were made by the actual persons in question, but, by a REAL DUNBASS instead. That is how I spent the entirety of my day. Socking and being a general dumbass here. That’d be me.

    I will be back with more socking and making fake comments under other , actual humans, handles tomorrow. Or tonight if I feel like it. Im a bit a turd that way.

    Dumbasses.

  32. Dumbass on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 10:35 pm 

    STFU Davy. Concentrate on your own dumbass blog.

    dumbass

  33. Davy on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 10:40 pm 

    Whoa. A triple dumbass post! This dumbass has nothing on me. I’m hundreds of dumbasses more of a dumbass then he’ll ever be.

    fucking dumb dumbass dumbass dumbasses

  34. Davy on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 10:44 pm 

    Oops, sorry for losing my shit again everyone. I’m such a dumbass.

    dumbasses

  35. makati1 on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 11:07 pm 

    Duncan, but I am enjoying every day of it … in the Philippines. The power and growth moved East. I moved with it, just like most US multi-nationals.

    Capitalism never had a future. Too much greed. The serfs discovered bread and circus’, but, it is interesting to watch the collapse in progress. What will come out the other side? We shall see.

  36. Davy on Wed, 7th Aug 2019 11:30 pm 

    Go to bed makato and stop lying. You hate your overpopulated little island hell hole and you president rapes tiny helpless little babies and than eats them. You are one sick fuck makato.

    Dumbass

  37. Davy on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 12:13 am 

    Oops, sorry for losing my shit again everyone.

    The goats not cooperating.

  38. Davy on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 12:50 am 

    Sorry makato. My uncle/ half brother/ grandmother finally got the stupid dumbass goat restrained. It kicked me right in my manpussy several times but I feel much better now, i’m Sure glad I don’t have real balls cause that probably might’ve hurt real bad. I’d be real happy for you and your life in the Ps if my life didn’t suck so bad. But it does. I hate my life so much. That’s why I get so emotional about everybody else’s lives that really shouldn’t matter so much to me at all.

  39. abdullah-slaveofallah-al-ameriki-akafmr on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 1:16 am 

    ok i give up, i’m going temporary retirement. i just can’t win. if it’s not the thousands of pages of permacultism info just to stick a stupid tree down the ground for it to grow, then we have “tulsi”, fantastic flying goat stories, or when the heat getting intense, tell imam big muzzie beard to ban me from jihadwatch. but now the good news. aparently dotheads are putting cows on the menu with curry because they’re taking back kashmir. when i fed my dog with soy, he’s a big baby and compliant. when i give him bones and meat he threatens me! maybe cows shouldn’t be dothead’s god but just protein like most of the world would enjoy. then we have story about Q doing the shootings!

    i’m a recent muzzie “revert” even the words are being co-opted in the intense drive to dominate. “behold, allah has created you the 7th century muzzie part human, part pig. you’re a superior muzzie”

  40. juanpee on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 1:30 am 

    “ok i give up”

    It’s about time. Concentrate on your own ‘blog’ and stop playing your child like games with everybody else.

    Go away dumbass.

  41. Cloggie on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 1:35 am 

    The US did not win WWII, the Russians did. The US waited until the European countries were completely exhausted in numerous ways before the US entered the war at the last minute in order to control the peace process. The war of 1812 was a draw. Just when did the US last win a war? 1776? (That being said, the US has obviously won the economic “wars” and obviously has place US military on nearly every country on earth in the name of “freedom”.

    It is precisely the other way around: the US or rather it’s kosher oligarch owners, were the real winners of WW2. Russia the true loser.

    Stalin was NOT present at the WW2 victory parade in Moscow for precisely that reason. The Americans had a thin bridgehead in Eurasia, ranking from the Atlantic to merely Hanover. The only way Soviet style communism could have conquered the world in the mold of Briths geopolitician Mackinder, was if the Red Army would have reached Bretagne and Lissabon and had conquered “The Heartland”. They didn’t.

    “The US waited until the European countries were completely exhausted”

    The US didn’t “wait” on purpose. Roosevelt had to wait until he had forced Japan into attacking Pearl Harbor, in order to escape a 100% US oil-boycott strangulation, before he could participate in his desired war, he had been preparing for since 1933:

    https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html

    Roosevelt couldn’t join earlier because the US public was opposed against US participation in WW2. Roosevelt fooled the US public with his engineered war against Japan and hence the Axis.

    https://www.amazon.com/Day-Deceit-Truth-About-Harbor/dp/0743201299/ref=sr_1_1

    The result the perceived “American Century”. If the Russians had won, as you claim, we would have had a “Soviet Century”. We didn’t.

    But that American century is nearly over, thanks to the rise of China, European unification, Brexit, Trump, but most of all because of the landmark 1965 third world immigration act, with which America ruined itself and is now on the verge of CW2.

    It is easy to predict what is going to happen next: the complete dismemberment of Anglosphere. China is preparing to jump onto Australia and New Zealand, Scotland wants to be European (or rather escape from a no-deal Brexit mess) and North-America is going to balkanize under the driving force of white nationalism, culminating in CW2.

    Just when did the US last win a war? 1776?

    Not even that one. The war of independence was an American side-show, but in reality a European war on North-American soil:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2014/11/25/the-second-american-revolution/

  42. I AM THE MOB on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 3:49 am 

    Europe’s future population compared with today’s

    https://i.redd.it/af7uutsd93f31.jpg

    But Europe’s birth rate is below replacement..So how are they going to increase their population so much?

    THIRD WORLD IMMIGRATION!

  43. Cloggie on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 4:24 am 

    “But Europe’s birth rate is below replacement..So how are they going to increase their population so much?
    THIRD WORLD IMMIGRATION!”

    I AM THE MOB and his kosher tribe have been waging war against the white race for 100 years now, using third world immigration to destroy us.

    In reality Europe already is overpopulated and doesn’t need immigration.

    What we need is the destruction of US liberalism and now we have the constellation in place to get the job done:

    Eurasia-Anglosphere

    WW3 with US-China fighting over global supremacy
    CW2 to separate kikes from yanks
    Formation of global Eurosphere to contain Sinosphere
    Multipolar identitarian worldorder, exit kikes

    Geopolitics is not rocket science.

  44. I AM THE MOB on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 5:19 am 

    Clogg

    Bless this immunity..

    Your region has become irrelevant.And when the oil crisis hits there soon.Its checkmate.Without a single shot fired.

    No shared language, no shared culture = civil war 3

  45. Davy on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 5:26 am 

    “Russia Gains Stranglehold Over Persian Gulf”
    https://tinyurl.com/y3jhuz6s oil price via zero hedge

    “In a potentially catastrophic escalation of tensions in the Persian Gulf, Russia plans to use Iran’s ports in Bandar-e-Bushehr and Chabahar as forward military bases for warships and nuclear submarines, guarded by hundreds of Special Forces troops under the guise of ‘military advisers’, and an airbase near Bandar-e-Bushehr as a hub for 35 Sukhoi Su-57 fighter planes OilPrice.com has exclusively been told by senior sources close to the Iranian regime. The next round of joint military exercises in the Indian Ocean and the Strait of Hormuz will mark the onset of this in-situ military expansion in Iran, as the Russian ships involved will be allowed by Iran to use the facilities in Bandar-e-Bushehr and Chabahar. Depending on the practical strength of domestic and international reaction to this, these ships and Spetsntaz will remain in place and will be expanded in numbers over the next 50 years. This gradual roll-out of Russian capability in a country is the Kremlin’s tried and tested operating procedure for leveraging economic and/or political support for a country into that country allowing itself to be used as, effectively, one large multi-level forward military base for Russia. Exactly the same plan was used, and remains in place, in Syria, with Russia maintaining a massive army presence in and around Latakia, Syria, despite having repeatedly made assurances that it was to withdraw from this military theatre. In the early stages, these troops – again, in reality all Spetsnatz foreign operatives – appeared in the guise of military advisers and to provide ‘security staff’ for the huge Russian Khmeimim Air Base and the S-400 Triumf missile system in place in and around Latakia.”

    “First, Iran has no other choice of a potential geopolitical ally in its current fight against sanction-induced economic austerity and political marginalisation…The second reason is that President Rouhani and his broadly moderate pro-West, pro-JCPOA supporters have lost the confidence of many who voted for him due to his inability to deliver the economic prosperity that he promised.. Why is the IRGC backing this deal with Russia, given that its senior personnel are extremely capable people and hardened military officers, well aware of the trouble that the deal could create on a global scale? “Firstly, they [the IRGC] honestly believe that a corollary financial deal agreed with Russia last year is the only economic lifeline that Iran has that will stop it from falling into a popular revolutionary scenario, and the second reason is that some of the most senior figures in the IRGC also stand to gain monetarily by co-operating with Russia,” an Iran source told OilPrice.com last week…For the oil and gas sector, specifically, it involved Russia giving US$50 billion per year every year for at least five years so it could complete its top priority oil and gas projects to Western standards, which was estimated to cost around US$250 billion. Another US$250 billion would then be available for the following five years for Iran to build-out the remainder of its economy.”

    “As it stands, then, Russia not only has unfettered access to all of Iran’s onshore, offshore and Caspian Sea oil and gas reserves to sell on as it wishes, however it wishes, but also is set to secure two of the most strategically well-placed ports and surrounding areas in the world’s most sensitive oil and gas hotspot, giving it effective control over the Strait of Hormuz. The Strait, of course, remains the world’s most important oil transit chokepoint – and the key route from the Arabian Gulf to the Far East via the Indian Ocean – with roughly 35% of all seaborne oil and about a third of global liquefied natural gas supplies passing through it. “Bandar-e-Bushehr and Chabahar will give Russia a potential stranglehold over the entire Persian Gulf area and into the Indian Ocean, which will allow it as well to conduct joint naval operations with China with more ease in the U.S. sphere of influence in the East, including around Japan, South Korea, and the Philippines,” a London-based intelligence analyst told OilPrice.com last week. “The fact that Russia also intends to use these two ports not just for warships but for nuclear submarines as well when the waters in its more northern ports are frozen is significantly upping the Russian ante on the West in general and on the U.S. in particular,” he concluded.”

  46. Davy on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 5:26 am 

    Bolton must be pissing in his pants

  47. Davy on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 5:40 am 

    “One Side Needs To Reach Its Pain Limit”: Why One Bank Sees The Yuan Cratering As Low As 7.70”
    https://tinyurl.com/y6xy9yua zero hedge

    As Daw writes overnight, the US and China are increasingly engaged in an entrenched tit-for-tat escalation phase, and as he correctly predicts “one of the two sides probably need to reach their pain limit before there is a chance of a de-escalation phase.”

    “Meanwhile, “the Chinese authorities can deploy their formidable defenses to stop or slow the depreciation”, as they may want to see the impact on capital flows before permitting another leg higher. However, as the SocGen strategist cautions, the upside risks to USD-CNY have intensified and he now forecasts USD-CNY modestly higher than our previous forecasts (to 7.10, 7.15, 7.20, 7.25) over the next four quarters. Worse, if the US escalates the tariff fight further (i.e. 25% tariffs on the remaining $300bn of Chinese imports) or takes other additional measures against China, “it would not be inconceivable for USD-CNY to rise to 7.50 or 7.70.”

  48. Davy on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 5:58 am 

    “8 FARMS USING AQUAPONICS TO SUSTAINABLY GROW FOOD”
    https://tinyurl.com/yy5x9vbx agriculture

    Aquaponics is a farming method that combines the benefits of aquaculture and hydroponics. A nitrifying bacteria convert the wastes that fish produce. They then serve as an organic nutrient source for the plants. The water passes through a hydroponic plant growing section for filtration then recirculated back in the fish tank for reuse. With a natural ecosystem that recycles water continuously, an aquaponics system uses 90% less water versus traditional farming. Additionally, the system is self-sustaining which requires low maintenance and zero pesticides, fertilizers or herbicides. Aquaponics systems are sustainable and environment-friendly, as there are no toxic wastes and run-offs from chemicals. Ultimately, aquaponics systems can help urban food growers maximize food yield. This is possible by harvesting both fish for a protein source and fresh plant produce.

    “Aquaponics Systems: A Steadily Growing Industry for Steadily Growing Food Currently, the aquaponics market is experiencing steady growth. In 2017, the global aquaponics market was valued at $523.7 million, and the total global market value for aquaponics systems will likely reach $870 million by 2022. Commercial-scale food growers and urban backyard farmers contribute to the growth. If this trend continues, access to locally-grown fish and salad greens raised using economical and sustainable farming methods will increase. Imagine a world where dining tables serve dishes made from organic as well as farm-fresh produce. Can it get any better than that? The aquaponics system aquarium is a farming innovation we should look forward to practicing.”

    I am sold on this technological farming as a niche but not as a solution to the overall problem of unsustainable food sourcing. This is still a net negative on the energy scale when you consider the holistic embedded energy and cost to produce. Yet, what industrial AG practices are not negative? If we can eliminate the trucks from California to the dinner plate and instead use that energy locally to produce some of this food, I see this as a good alternative. Industrial AG is not going away until or if civilization collapses this is because we have no alternative with the population and consumption numbers we are dealing with.

  49. Davy on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 6:04 am 

    “Fourth north-south power line required in Germany – grid agency”
    https://tinyurl.com/y6trkojs clean energy wire

    “The expansion of long-distance transmission lines is seen as one of the greatest obstacles to Germany reaching its target of increasing the share of renewables in power consumption to 65 percent by 2030. Three high-voltage power lines, the A-Nord, SuedLink and SuedOstLink, are already planned or under construction to transport wind energy from Germany’s north to the country’s industrial heartlands in the south and west.”

  50. DerHundistLos on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 6:31 am 

    Makati1-

    Capitalism is the future and the future is now. Greed and quest for power that represent the two foundational pillars of capitalism have infected every nook and cranny of the globe. Nobody is immune to infection. I see how capitalism is tearing families and the nation apart in Colombia. It’s horrifying what is happening. Trust is gone. It’s now every man for himself and fuck your neighbor.

    For many, it’s all about extracting as many resources as possible as quickly as possible and to hell with the future.

    Sadly, a Trump-lite president is now in power. His first attempted presidential act was to eliminate the Colombian Supreme Court, which ruled against a predecessor who had attempted to nullify a section of the constitution that would have resulted in appointing himself president for life.

    Guess what? Since Trump-lite assumed power, deforestation rates have gone through the roof. The criminal land barons are busier than ever clear cutting as much forest as they can get their greedy hands on.

    Deforestation soars in Colombia after Farc rebels’ demobilization: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/11/colombia-deforestation-farc

    Yep, the “evil” commies were the only ones protecting the forest. They ENFORCED the law. Ever since the US delivered to the Colombian military advanced weaponry, the FARC has been in retreat. When the FARC leave, the land barons immeditely fill the void.

    Rah, rah, USA.

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