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A month into his presidency, Donald Trump lamented that the US no longer wins wars as it once did.
“When I was young, in high school and college, everybody used to say we never lost a war,” Trump told a group of US governors last February. “Now, we never win a war.”
Dominic Tierney, a professor at Swarthmore College and the author of multiple books about how America wages war, may know the reason why.
He believes the US can still successfully fight the wars of yesteryear — World War-style conflicts — but hasn’t yet mastered how to win wars against insurgents, which are smaller fights against groups within countries. The problem is the US continues to involve itself in those kinds of fights.
“We’re still stuck in this view that war is like the Super Bowl: We meet on the field, both sides have uniforms, we score points, someone wins, and when the game ends you go home,” he told me. “That’s not what war is like now.”
The US military is currently mired in conflicts in countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen. It’s hard to see any end in sight — especially an end where the United States is the victor, however that’s defined.
A lightly edited transcript of our conversation follows.
Alex Ward
During his first year in office, Trump got the US more deeply involved in wars, with the goal of defeating terrorists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Somalia. But has this put the US on course to end these fights?
Dominic Tierney
Victory may be asking a lot.
Since 1945, the United States has very rarely achieved meaningful victory. The United States has fought five major wars — Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan — and only the Gulf War in 1991 can really be classified as a clear success.
There are reasons for that, primarily the shift in the nature of war to civil conflicts, where the United States has struggled. Trump himself recognized this: He said on the campaign trail numerous times that we used to win wars and we don’t win anymore. And he has promised to turn the page on this era of defeat and said that we were going to get sick and tired of winning.
But will he channel that observation into winning wars? I doubt it.
The nature of war continues to be these difficult internal conflicts in places like Afghanistan, where the United States has struggled long before Trump ever dreamed of running for president.
Alex Ward
So what constitutes victory in war today, and has that changed from the past?
Dominic Tierney
The famous war theorist Carl von Clausewitz argued that war is the continuation of politics by other means. So war is not just about blowing things up — it’s about achieving political goals.
The United States, up until 1945, won virtually all the major wars that it fought. The reason is those wars were overwhelmingly wars between countries. The US has always been very good at that.
But that kind of war has become the exception. If you look around the world today, about 90 percent of wars are civil wars. These are complex insurgencies, sometimes involving different rebel groups, where the government faces a crisis of legitimacy.
The US has found, for various reasons, that it’s far more difficult to achieve its goals in these cases. The three longest wars in US history are Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan — all from recent decades, all these complex types of civil wars.
Alex Ward
On its face, this seems to be a paradox: The US can win on the battlefield against a major military force, but we can’t seem to win these smaller wars.
Dominic Tierney
Yes. And even more surprising: It’s when the US became a superpower and created the best-trained, strongest military the world has ever seen, around 1945, that the US stopped winning wars.
The answer to the puzzle is that American power turned out to be a double-edged sword.
The US was so powerful after World War II, especially after the Soviet Union disappeared, that Washington was tempted to intervene in distant conflicts around the world in places like Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
We ended up intervening in countries where we had little cultural understanding. To illustrate this, in 2006 — at the height of the Iraq War — there were 1,000 officials in the US embassy in Baghdad, but only six of them spoke Arabic.
In addition, the US military has failed to adapt to this new era of war. The US military has this playbook for success against countries: technology, big-unit warfare, and so on. And when we started fighting insurgents, it was natural that we would turn to that same playbook.
Alex Ward
So we might not have much cultural understanding of the places where we’re fighting, but we have greater technology and better fighting forces. Why can’t we overcome this obstacle?
Dominic Tierney
The reason, again, comes down to the difference between an interstate [more traditional] war and a counterinsurgency, or nation-building mission.
One difference is that we cannot easily see the enemy. In an interstate war, the enemy is wearing uniforms, we know where they are on a map. In a counterinsurgency they are hiding in the population.
Now, the US military is capable of hitting any target with pinpoint accuracy using the latest hardware. But what if we don’t know where the enemy is? A lot of that technology, which is really impressive, turns out to be irrelevant.
Alex Ward
It seems like we have two problems here. We haven’t corrected our way of thinking to deal with insurgencies or civil wars, and then we keep getting involved in those kinds of wars, despite the fact that we’re ill-prepared to deal with them.
Why do we keep falling into this trap?
Dominic Tierney
One answer is we basically believe in illusions — the idea that nation-building and counterinsurgency will be avoided.
Look at Iraq, where the United States believed it could topple Saddam Hussein and basically leave as quickly as possible. We would overthrow the tyrant and then the Iraqi people would be free to create their own democracy. That was based on massive overconfidence about what would happen after Hussein fell.
So why do we go to war if we hate counterinsurgency and we struggle at it? The reason is the White House convinces itself it doesn’t need to stabilize or help rebuild a country after a war. But it’s not just the Bush administration — think of the Obama administration too.
Barack Obama was a very thoughtful president and talked at length about his foreign policy thinking. At the heart of the Obama doctrine was “no more Iraq War.” And yet he basically made the same mistake in Libya, where there was very little planning for what would occur after Muammar Qaddafi was overthrown in 2011. In fact, Obama went on the record saying that the Libya intervention was his worst mistake a president.
Alex Ward
So if it really is a bunch of wishful illusions and incorrect assumptions, how do we avoid that? We have tons of evidence that things don’t go our way when we get involved in these kinds of wars. We don’t seem to learn from our mistakes.
Dominic Tierney
We don’t learn very well from history. Presidents convince themselves that the next time will be different.
The lesson Obama took from Iraq was not to allow any US ground forces to get involved in nation-building. Since Obama was willing to support regime change, the end result was going to be the overthrow of Qaddafi with no real plan to stabilize Libya.
If a thoughtful president like Obama — who was very cognizant of the errors of Iraq — can do that, it suggests that any president would be capable of doing that.
Alex Ward
It seems like one of the problems is that we’re involving ourselves in these wars with little preparation. How do we solve that?
Dominic Tierney
We need better language training, cultural training, more resources for special forces — and that would mean less money spent on nuclear attack submarines, for example.
Second, once we improve America’s ability for stabilization missions, we deploy the US military with greater care and fight fewer wars. That means when we do fight, we have a better plan to win the peace.
Alex Ward
But then there’s another problem: Sometimes groups like ISIS arise, and US leaders and many Americans want the military to take them out. So when the president is faced with the option to target a group like ISIS with airpower, some would argue that it’s better, politically, to do that.
Dominic Tierney
The US doesn’t think several moves ahead. The US military is good at taking out bad guys. But the removal of the bad guy creates a power vacuum, and that power vacuum is filled by somebody else.
In Afghanistan, we created disorder and then the Taliban returned — the power vacuum there was also filled by ISIS. And in Iraq, the vacuum was filled by militant groups, most notably al-Qaeda in Iraq. In Libya, the vacuum was filled by a complicated range of militant groups.
The mood in the US is: “We just killed ISIS, let’s go home and close the book on the ISIS war.” Well, there’s more to the story.
Alex Ward
The Trump administration says it will pay less attention to defeating terrorists and will now focus more on battling back growing Chinese and Russian power.
That new strategic focus means we’ll change the kinds of weapons we buy and the kind of training our troops do. But I don’t see the US stopping its fight against terrorism. Does this preparation for a different style of war — while still fighting another — put the US in an awkward position?
Dominic Tierney
I think it does.
There is a desire to shift from difficult nation-building missions toward countering great-power challengers like Russia and especially China. But this isn’t very new. The Obama administration wanted to pivot to Asia and the China challenge. And then what happened? We ended up being engaged against ISIS.
I tend to think that the pivot to China is sort of like Waiting for Godot — it never arrives. And I think the United States is going to get drawn back into these civil wars and these kinds of messy conflicts, particularly in the broader Middle East. The odds of conflict between the US and China are very low; the odds of the US engaging in another civil war in the next five years are extremely high.
Alex Ward
Based on this conversation, victory in war seems to be how we define it, or, rather, will it to be. The US sets its victory goals low, but we don’t even meet those lower goals. Why can’t we get over this hump?
Dominic Tierney
We’re still stuck in this view that war is like the Super Bowl: We meet on the field, both sides have uniforms, we score points, someone wins, and when the game ends you go home. That’s not what war is like now. Now there are tons of civilians on the field, the enemy team doesn’t wear a uniform, and the game never ends. We need to know there’s no neat ending.
The costs of this problem have been so catastrophic for the United States, in the form of thousands of military lives and billions of dollars spent. It’s time we fundamentally rethink our vision of what war is.
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 12:35 am
The American Lech Walesa explains the shootings and other topics. America in his view is no longer the eternal optimistic country but has acquired a tragic component, just like the Europeans countries did before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLci5GZUwGs
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 12:42 am
“China Is Extremely Angry, And Now Considers The United States To Be Enemy #1”
“Looks like we fucked up real bad this time.”
No worries, empire dave, you have got your older European brother standing by (640 million) to prevent the worst.
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 1:44 am
For conspiracy theory lovers… evaluating the 20th century:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2019/08/06/zog-turkey/
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 1:49 am
For lovers of OT spamming, trolling, and general autism.
> Cloggo
NAMBLA on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 1:54 am
Davy, not facing your tendencies can lead to irrational behabviour and disturbed emotional response. Please feel free to contact us. We’re here to help.
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 1:57 am
Breakfast with the DailyMail:
BoJo in reality heading for a no-deal Brexit, “do or die”:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7325043/EU-diplomats-fear-Boris-Johnson-no-intention-negotiating-new-deal.html
“EU diplomats ‘fear Boris Johnson has no intention of negotiating a new deal’ and are planning for a No Deal in October”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7324701/Londoners-need-earn-300-000-year-classed-rich-research-shows.html
Global Britain: finance in London (richest town in Europe), oil in Aberdeen and poverty in North-England.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7324387/Boris-Johnson-determined-remain-No10-LOSES-vote-no-confidence.html
“Boris Johnson is determined to remain in Number 10 and will refuse to quit even if he LOSES vote of no confidence”
BoJo strategy: let October 31 pass and get a default Brexit, initiated by the EU that has enough. This tactic could be torpedoed though by parliament, requesting yet another postponement of article 50 by pointing at an upcoming election that will be a Brexit election.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7323741/Boris-Johnson-adviser-Dominic-Cummings-warns-Whitehall-prepare-October-No-Deal-Brexit.html
“Boris Johnson’s top adviser Dominic Cummings ‘warns Whitehall MUST be ready for No Deal Brexit in October’ with swipe at Remainer former ministers Philip Hammond and Greg Clark”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7321761/Nicola-Sturgeon-gloats-shock-poll-claiming-Scots-vote-independence.html
“Nicola Sturgeon gloats over shock poll claiming Scots WOULD vote for independence: Survey finds 52 per cent back breaking up UK after Boris Johnson vowed hard line on Brexit”
Take a bowl, throw in 45-55 Scottish independence rejection flour, add 62-38 pro-EU scrambled eggs, mix some BoJo-prime-minister pepper, and some Worcester sauze and marmite… aaaand you get a delish Scottish independence pie!
Bon appetit!
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 2:15 am
Hey look its clogg IRL
https://imgur.com/a/oo9Urlz
no wonder he has no job and cant get laid..
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 2:59 am
“I AM THE MOB on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 2:15 am
Hey look its clogg”
Local time:
Middleville 3:15
Vancouver 0:15
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 3:48 am
Cathay Pacific Airline Admits Spying On Passengers With Seatback TV Cams And Airport Surveillance
Passengers on Hong-Kong-based Cathay Pacific have been warned that their movements and preferences will be recorded by the airline via seatback in-flight entertainment screens equipped with cameras, according to News.com.au.
Seatback entertainment system camera (via news.com.au)
What’s more, the airline says the data will be stored indefinitely, or “as long as necessary.”
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 4:02 am
“you have got your older European brother standing by (640 million) to prevent the worst.”
Nobody believes you shit anymore clog. Your credibility is in the toilet. European brothers WTF is up with that. Idiot
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 4:11 am
“I rarely ready any comments, especially long ones.”
Mak, you are just fading away and irrelevant anymore. Do you really think people read your comments? There are only a few here who post anyway and they are not interested in your worn out message. My ID theft that was supposed to run Davy off has backfired but I don’t care. I want to take down this forum because this place sucks.
More Davy Sock Puppetry on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 5:50 am
DavyP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 4:11 am
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 7:01 am
Will China Retreat Into Itself?
It’s never easy to gauge what exactly is happening in China, or why the CCP Politburo takes the decisions it does. Today, or overnight, is no exception to that. However, one thing that appears certain, but which I don’t see reflected in all the analyses, is that Beijing pushing the value of the renminbi (yuan) down below 7 to the USD in one fell swoop, is a major setback for Xi Jinping and his government. Yes, China may have given up hope of reaching positive conclusions in its trade talks with the US. And yes, some may think, even in China itself, that devaluing the currency is a tool that can be useful in a potential currency war. But there’s another side to this coin. It’s not even about the value itself, or the change in it, it’s the heavy-handed way it’s executed. China wants, and desperately needs too, for the yuan to be a force in global financial markets. In very simple terms this is true because if it then wants to buy something, it can simply print the money for it. But only about 1% of global trade today is executed in yuan. That is not nearly enough. It means China needs dollars and euros, all the time. And devaluing the yuan means the country needs even more of those. You’d almost think: why would you want to do that? What are the long-term prospects for a move like this? You’re telling forex markets that the value of the yuan is not trustworthy, because if Xi or the PBOC decides in the next five minutes that it should go up or down by 10% or 20%, they can do it. The Fed and ECB also have tools to manipulate their currencies (re: interest rates), but none of that magnitude. The crux of the dilemma probably lies in the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), which I’ve been saying for years is just China’s way to sell its overcapacity and overproduction abroad. Sure, there may be loftier goals, and surely in the glitzy brochures, but the fact remains that China has tried to be an economic miracle, doing in 10 years what took the US a century, and it never slowed down its growth, at least not voluntarily, even if that might have been a wise move. Already lately, purchases by Chinese citizens and companies of real estate and businesses abroad have been curtailed, and not a little bit, by Beijing. There’s no better way to convince Chinese people of the miracle’s success than to let them travel the world and spend there, but that, too, may well soon be cut. It kills foreign reserves. If Beijing could charge participating countries in the Belt and Road Initiative in yuan, and they could pay for the overcapacity’s steel and cement and what not in yuan, that could be a game-changing program for the entire planet. But these countries have no reason to hold yuan, other than the BRI itself. And they, too, were watching the overnight move above 7 and must have thought: let’s be careful now. And to top it all off, China right now needs for these countries to pay in dollars instead of yuan, because its foreign reserves are shrinking so fast. It’s Catch-22 all the way down. China’s need for dollars goes against everything BRI stands for. Could the move hurt the US as well? Absolutely. But the long-term view behind the tariffs, and the talks China appears to have lost faith in, is to move the US away from its near all-encompassing addiction to Chinese production, and to move at least some of that production back home. Problem of course is, that is precisely what China’s miracle growth has been built on. If the US starts bringing production home, who is Beijing going to sell its (over-)production to? Yes, I hear you, to the BRI countries. But there it runs into the currency problems mentioned before. To Europe? The top of that trade route is also behind us. Europe will have to follow the US to an extent, and also bring factories back to the continent (and not just to Germany either). China could perhaps sell more than it does today to Russia. But that country still does produce a lot of things, and has been forced to be much more self-sufficient due to US and EU sanctions. It’s also a mighty small market compared to 350 million North Americans and 500 million Europeans, who are on average much richer than your average Russian to boot. There is a way for China to make the yuan more important in global trade (but devaluation is definitely not that way): Beijing could let go of its central and total control over the value of its currency, and let forex markets figure it out. That would give traders -and everyone else- faith in the value. Problem with that is, this is not how central control communist governments think. Beijing wants both: central total control AND a prominent place in world trade. And it may take them a long time to figure out that is not going to happen, unless of course they first conquer the entire world militarily. That is not an option, at least not for the foreseeable future. Come see me next century. It wouldn’t be the first time for me to say I can see China retreat into itself, into its own borders and culture and market (1.3 billion people!). If the Communist Party wants to remain in power, and there’s no doubt it does, this may be only possible choice going forward. If growth has indeed left the miracle -as many observers think-, it can implode in very rapid succession. And even if growth hasn’t yet evaporated, it may well very soon. Without the growth, there is no miracle anymore. And if China can no longer grow its exports, its domestic growth will also become a thing of the past. Domestic consumption can only grow as long as exports do too. Seen from that angle, the problems with trade and the currency look downright ominous. If you need dollars that badly, and you notice that you’re already getting fewer of them, not more, you’re in trouble. Devaluing your currency may afford you some temporary respite, but it can’t possibly solve your troubles. It can make them much worse though. I think China has wanted too much too fast, got carried away and forgot to take care of a few potential barriers to its growth, in particular the standing its currency had and still has in the world, and the grinding need for dollars that stems from it. And the Communists have no answer to this problem.
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 7:11 am
“ I want to take down this forum because this place sucks.”
We all know you want that, floppy, but the truth is that in reality, this time the bell tolls for you.
#110
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 7:14 am
Floppy forgot to add the link:
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2019/08/will-china-retreat-into-itself/
“Will China retreat into itself?”
Dredd on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 7:22 am
In other words, We Killed More Of US Than They Did – 3
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 9:15 am
“We all know you want that, floppy, but the truth is that in reality, this time the bell tolls for you.”
Clog, I take credit for wanting this forum taken down. I am the primary instigator of using the nicknames of others and multiple fake nicknames. You know this but you want to be crafty and use what I do to attack MOB. I don’t care for MOB but I do care about my message so go fuck off.
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 9:35 am
“I am the primary instigator of using the nicknames of others and multiple fake nicknames. You know this but you want to be crafty and use what I do to attack MOB.”
You admit you hijack nicks of others but this time you are the real JuanP. Uhuh.
Sorry, not buying floppy, you scheming and deceiving kike.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 9:47 am
You can’t shut this site..What would clogg do all day? go out and work for living and have a social life?
There are real reasons why people become nazi’s..And being a respected and productive member of society is not one of them..
HAHAH!
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 10:41 am
Russia: an attack on Iran is an attack on Russia :
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/article/attack-on-iran-would-be-an-attack-on-russia/
(And probably on China as well).
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 10:47 am
Larry Summers: UK deluded if it thinks it will a generous trade deal from US:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7327789/Dominic-Raab-urges-level-trade-relationship-Canada-eyes-post-Brexit-deals.html
#StrippedNaked
– massive darkie immigration
– police state
– NHS abolished
– chlorine chicken and other third world standards
– oligarch rule
– anti-white society
Enjoy your Brexit!!
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 11:06 am
If You Want ‘Renewable Energy,’ Get Ready to Dig
Building one wind turbine requires 900 tons of steel, 2,500 tons of concrete and 45 tons of plastic.
“Renewable energy” is a misnomer. Wind and solar machines and batteries are built from nonrenewable materials. And they wear out. Old equipment must be decommissioned, generating millions of tons of waste. The International Renewable Energy Agency calculates that solar goals for 2050 consistent with the Paris Accords will result in old-panel disposal constituting more than double the tonnage of all today’s global plastic waste. Consider some other sobering numbers:
A single electric-car battery weighs about 1,000 pounds. Fabricating one requires digging up, moving and processing more than 500,000 pounds of raw materials somewhere on the planet. The alternative? Use gasoline and extract one-tenth as much total tonnage to deliver the same number of vehicle-miles over the battery’s seven-year life.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-you-want-renewable-energy-get-ready-to-dig-11565045328?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=4
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 11:16 am
Clogg
Russia said the same thing with Syria…yet it’s been bombed by everyone for years..
You are so naive..lol
Davy on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 11:31 am
“Renewable energy” is a misnomer. Wind and solar machines and batteries are built from nonrenewable materials. And they wear out.”
Yea, but, what is worse a stupid sports arena or renewable energy wind/solar farm? In my mind the answer is clear. Lets build less useless shit and more renewables of all kind but lets also be real about what they can do in the longer term.
Davy on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 11:33 am
“Russia: an attack on Iran is an attack on Russia”
BS, Russia will support Iran indirectly but there is no indication of direct involvement especially considering Iran may be the one to start a conflict.
Davy on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 11:42 am
“Economic Collapse Imminent: Zimbabwe At ‘Tipping Point’ With ‘Wheels Coming Off’”
https://tinyurl.com/y4z48heo zero hedge
“Japhet Moyo, secretary-general of the Zimbabwe Congress of Trade Unions, has warned that cost of essential services jumped 400% this year while pay has risen only by 10%. This has left many millions of people broke and starving. About 59% of rural Zimbabweans, or about 5.5 million people, don’t have food, a new report by the United Nations and aid groups said last month. #RECAP These military trucks and buses have been delivered to Zimbabwe – a country that has no food to feed 5.5m people hit by drought; a country that has no electricity, fuel, bread and medicines. A country whose leader urges citizens to take the pain while flying private jets pic.twitter.com/I1MZhIXNGQ — ZimLive (@zimlive) July 25, 2019 It’s entirely possible that the return of street protests over collapsing economic conditions could flare-up in the coming months as there is only so much Zimbabweans will tolerate before an outright economic collapse.”
More Low IQ Davy ID Theft on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 12:14 pm
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 3:48 am
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 4:02 am
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 4:11 am
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 7:01 am
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 9:15 am
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 1:41 pm
Davy
Nobody gives a fuck about your ZeroIQ articles by lunatics..And hiding the URL isn’t getting anyone to click on them..
Nobody cares about your emotionally driven nonsense..You stupid uneducated half wit..
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 2:17 pm
Elections in Eastern Germany inSeptember.
According to the German 20:00 national news is the AfD now the largest in states like Saxony, Brandenburg and Thuringa.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-afd/german-far-right-party-ahead-in-east-before-regional-votes-idUSKCN1UU06O
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 2:21 pm
““Economic Collapse Imminent: Zimbabwe At ‘Tipping Point’ With ‘Wheels Coming Off’”
The US-instigated criminal decolonization of Africa is like telling kindergarten graduates: “you’re on you own now, good luck with your career!”
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 2:31 pm
Ocasio-Cortez: Trump’s immigration rhetoric ‘directly responsible’ for El Paso mass shooting
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/456305-ocasio-cortez-trumps-immigration-rhetoric-is-directly-responsible-for
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 2:55 pm
A black swan is circling around us. So keeps your ears pricked for the sounds of wings flapping!
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 4:24 pm
“A black swan is circling around us. So keeps your ears pricked for the sounds of wings flapping!”
You are flapping all day, floppy.
Sissyfuss on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 4:32 pm
The El Paso shooter killed 7 Mexican citizens during his rampage. Trump states that it’s a good start and gives the shooter the armed services marksman award.
joe on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 5:05 pm
Read the PNAC documents. They envisioned that the US would engage in ‘constabulary’missions. That means policing the world. These guys think of themselves as honorable people whos neoDelian League would unofficially maintain the peace, settle disputes and extract rich tributes in the form of trade rights and arms sales. They wanted to become a global mafia, with the US acting as head of the commission and UK as consigliari, nato is the crew and Israel and Saudi Arabia as protection rackets…. Russia, China, axis of evil etc would be nothing but a rogues gallery of villains who each be dealt with in turn thus proving just how important and valuable US protection is. People ponder the question, whoes America is it. It’s really only ever been Al Capone’s.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 5:21 pm
Clogg
Check this out..
http://archive.is/FqR10
Now look at the page
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=List+of+countries+by+future+population+%28United+Nations%2C+medium+fertility+variant%29&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1&ns0=1
HAHAH! The great replacement won’t be televised!
HAHA!
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 5:22 pm
now you see it
http://archive.is/FqR10
now you dont
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_future_population_(United_Nations,_medium_fertility_variant)
haha
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 5:54 pm
Right-Wing Extremism Linked to Every 2018 Extremist Murder in the U.S., ADL Finds
https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/right-wing-extremism-linked-to-every-2018-extremist-murder-in-the-us-adl-finds
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 6:43 pm
After McAfee Mulls Mass Shootings, Paul Joseph Watson Opines On Virtue Signaling And Society’s Failings
Watson first notes that last weekends’s two shootings were carried out by right-wing extremist and left-wing extremists – which the media and Democratic presidential candidates selectively jumped on in their clamor to condemn conservatives. “If you’re going to hold Trump responsible for the El Paso mass shooting, you’re going to have to hold Elizabeth Warren responsible for the Dayton mass shooting,” notes Watson, “because the Ohio shooter supported Elizabeth Warren and said he was going to vote for her.” “He also described himself as a leftist who wanted socialism. He expressed brazen sympathy for the Antifa terrorist who attempted to firebomb an ICE facility – calling him a martyr. He invoked Alexandria Ocasio-Corterz’s concentration camp rhetoric. He tweeted “Vote blue for god’s sake,” retweeting Bernie Sanders numerous times, retweeting Antifa accounts numerous times, retweeting Right Wing Watch’s Jared Holt, and tweeted “kill every fascist.” “He was a left-wing extremist,” said Watson.
makati1 on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 6:45 pm
Trump is isolating the US one tweet at a time.
Who is going to make your shoes, clothes, meds, cars, I-phones, toys, etc., when no country will trade with you? It will be difficult to eat F35s and your farm economy is being destroyed by climate change.
Buckle up, shitizens. Rough road ahead!
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 6:45 pm
Watch: Protesters Shout Death Threats Outside Mitch McConnell’s Home
A video circulating on social media overnight shows protestors shouting outside Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s home, shouting “No Trump, no KKK, no Fascist USA!” while others called him names like “Murder Turtle.” Over the chaotic cacophony of cowbells and cursing, viewers can hear a series of death threats being hurled at McConnell. “Just stab the motherf**ker in the heart, please,” A woman is on Facebook Live, outside of Senator McConnell’s home in Louisville, saying she hopes someone “just stabs the mother f*cker in the heart, please.” #KYSen pic.twitter.com/sHaPWqn32J — Ben Goldey (@BenGoldey) August 6, 2019 While Senate is on its five-week August recess, McConnell’s using the time off to recover from a shoulder injury at his home in Louisville, KY. “The b—- is home — we keep seeing the lights go on and off,” another protester can be heard shouting. “This h– really thought he was going to get ready to be at home after he hurt his little punk ass shoulder. B—-, don’t nobody give a f—! F–k your thoughts and prayers, Mitch. F— you, f— your wife, f— everything you stand for. ”
makati1 on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 6:46 pm
BTW: even the F35s are made in many other countries and assembled in the US. LMAO!
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 6:50 pm
Mak, Do you have a link I would like to read up on that. Sounds crazy
More Low IQ Davy ID Theft on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 6:58 pm
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 6:43 pm
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 6:45 pm
JuanP on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 6:50 pm
Duncan Idaho on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 7:07 pm
The F35 has not got the best reviews:
The Pentagon is battling the clock to fix serious, unreported F-35 problems
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/06/12/the-pentagon-is-battling-the-clock-to-fix-serious-unreported-f-35-problems/
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 8:21 pm
The fight between the US and China over Australia has started:
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/465852-pompeo-pacific-micronesia-china/
My money is on China.
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 8:26 pm
NYC is incurable libtard, the left, jews, darkies can have it. The new home of the Israelis:
https://nypost.com/2019/08/06/protesters-shout-death-threats-outside-mitch-mcconnells-home/
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 8:32 pm
In Britain, with Corbyn and Galloway, the resistance against “them” comes from the left, not from the globalist business right:
https://www.rt.com/uk/465657-galloway-sugar-skulls-corbyn/
Brexit btw could get completely out of hand.
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 8:37 pm
Kiss libtard Sodom and Gomorra Amsterdam goodbye!
LOL
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/arctic-ice-melt-alaska-ice-free-climate-change-a9044466.html
“Alaska is now ice-free and the Arctic is melting at an unprecedented rate. What next?”
#Greenland
1m yes, 3m no.
Cloggie on Tue, 6th Aug 2019 8:46 pm
“People ponder the question, whoes America is it. It’s really only ever been Al Capone’s.”
But you are buying the “19 Ayrabs-with-boxcutters”, regardless, eh?