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North Sea oil production is struggling, according to independent energy research and intelligence business Rystad Energy.
The company’s North Sea oil output forecast – which looks at crude and lease condensate production, including onshore, for Norway, the United Kingdom, Denmark and the Netherlands – projects that 185,000 barrels per day (bpd) of outages will be seen in May.
Rystad Energy’s forecast also shows that 462,000 bpd of outages will be seen in June and reveals that further outages are set for July, August and September.
Production is set to hit 2.526 million bpd in May, 2.275 million bpd in June, 2.660 million bpd in July, 2.457 million bpd in August and 2.453 million bpd in September, according to the forecast.
“Currently we see unplanned outages at Oseberg and Flotta with combined impact of 160,000 bpd,” Rystad Energy said in a company statement posted on its website.
“Furthermore, the North Sea is heading into maintenance season. We forecast North Sea oil production to drop next month to the lowest level since August 2014 as Ekofisk goes into maintenance,” Rystad Energy added.
“Turnaround activity at Ekofisk feeding fields is the primary driver accounting for 230,000 bpd of the total outage for June 2019,” the company continued.
Back in March, Rystad Energy revealed that oil production in the North Sea would drop by 330,000 bpd month-on-month in June as Ekofisk closed for planned work.
Ekofisk was Norway’s first producing field, according to operator ConocoPhillips Norway. The field was discovered in 1969 and production started in 1971.
Rystad Energy is headquartered in Oslo, Norway. The company also has locations in a number of other cities around the world.
301 Comments on "North Sea Oil Production Struggling"
Davy on Fri, 24th May 2019 11:07 am
Antius, what does nucular radiation have to do with North Sea oil production?
Cloggie on Fri, 24th May 2019 11:09 am
The poor woman doesn’t stop crying:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7066101/PM-summons-inner-circle-Downing-Street-gets-ready-quit.html
“’It’s been a journey’: Theresa May breaks down in tears AGAIN behind closed doors minutes after resigning as she is applauded by staff and thanks ‘her rock’ husband Philip”
BoJo should be spanked in public for this, he is a mean man.
Back to politics:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7066603/Worlds-media-reacts-Theresa-Mays-departure.html
“Europe braces for no deal Brexit: Spain says Theresa May’s departure means Britain is almost certain to crash out as Holland says ‘there will be NO renegotiating’”
And then there is that other Anglo country where left and right are about to go at each other’s throat:
https://buchanan.org/blog/are-we-on-the-ramp-to-impeachment-road-137069
Buchanan: “Are We on the Ramp to Impeachment Road?”
Latest national poll:
LAB: 26% (-3)
BREX: 25% (+1)
CON: 22% (-)
LDEM: 12% (+1)
GRN: 4% (+1)
UKIP: 2% (-)
CHUK: 2% (-1)
This poll still asumes CON to be in one piece. BREX-CON coalition not a certainty, too many remainers in CON. LAB-LDEM-GRN no majority either. Conclusion: Britain remains ungovernable as ever.
Fortunately Britain still can rely on uncle Macron to finally pull the plug on the Brexit circus and put Britain outside he EU classroom as a punishment for bad behavior. The coming months are definately not going to be boring! Better than anything on Netflix.
Davy on Fri, 24th May 2019 11:12 am
Mods,
Could we please have a thread called ‘Spam’ so us dumbasses could actually post on topic for a change?
Antius on Fri, 24th May 2019 11:14 am
“Antius, what does nucular radiation have to do with North Sea oil production?”
Nothing. I was merely responding to your comment regarding Fukushima / Chernobyl comparison.
Assuming it was your comment. It is difficult to know who is Davy and who is not these days. Not that I’ve ever actually met Davy anyway. But presumably he is a real person and apparently, someone called JuanP (who I also have never met) keeps impersonating him. Crazy shit!
JuanP on Fri, 24th May 2019 11:16 am
I agree Antius. Carazy shit!
Davy Identity Theft on Fri, 24th May 2019 11:17 am
JuanP on Fri, 24th May 2019 11:16 am
I AM THE MOB on Fri, 24th May 2019 12:22 pm
Clogg
Don’t believe everything you read..
lol
Cloggie on Fri, 24th May 2019 12:35 pm
Don’t worry mobby, I never believe anything you write. We’re in safe territory here, no worries.
JuanP on Fri, 24th May 2019 12:56 pm
This is a juanpee post
Davy on Fri, 24th May 2019 11:07 am
Antius, what does nucular radiation have to do with North Sea oil production?
JuanP on Fri, 24th May 2019 12:58 pm
This is a juanpee post
Davy on Fri, 24th May 2019 11:12 am
Mods,
Could we please have a thread called ‘Spam’ so us dumbasses could actually post on topic for a change?
JuanP on Fri, 24th May 2019 12:59 pm
juanpee shit
JuanP on Fri, 24th May 2019 11:16 am
I agree Antius. Carazy shit!
Davy Identity Theft on Fri, 24th May 2019 11:17 am
JuanP on Fri, 24th May 2019 11:16 am
Davy Identity Theft on Fri, 24th May 2019 1:09 pm
JuanP on Fri, 24th May 2019 12:56 pm
Davy Identity Theft on Fri, 24th May 2019 1:10 pm
JuanP on Fri, 24th May 2019 12:58 pm
Davy Identity Theft on Fri, 24th May 2019 1:11 pm
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Cloggie on Fri, 24th May 2019 1:16 pm
Brexit problems solved!
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/24/11/13905958-7066639-image-a-36_1558695069794.jpg
Cloggie on Fri, 24th May 2019 1:46 pm
Dutch airports begin to fly on synthetic renewable kerosine:
https://www.trouw.nl/groen/schiphol-en-rotterdam-airport-gaan-inzetten-op-synthetische-kerosine~ab0cfbe2/
Input : CO2, H2O, renewable electricity
Output: kerosine
Dutch factory in Rotterdam
German technology (who else?)
Cloggie on Fri, 24th May 2019 1:55 pm
Lucid analysis by a British jew about the new situation:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/24/no-deal-remain-theresa-may-brexit-party-compromise-brexit
The idea that BoJo will travel to Brussels and get these Europeans sorted out, is ludicrous. The fool will achieve nothing.
Freedland knows Brussrls willnot compromise on anything. Sign or we are going to enjoy your demise from a safe distance, while nipping wine and eating cheese.
EU 22T
UK 3T
Got it, junior?
I AM THE MOB on Fri, 24th May 2019 2:27 pm
Clogg
Too bad you don’t paid to post on here..I mean this is your entire life..And nobody even reads the garbage you post from mainly biased and tabloid click bait..
You are just arguing with yourself..
Davy on Fri, 24th May 2019 2:28 pm
“Dutch airports begin to fly on synthetic renewable kerosine:“
I would love to see that fuel bill. Lol
Davy ID Theft & Sock Puppetry on Fri, 24th May 2019 2:30 pm
Too numerous to mention.
Cloggie on Fri, 24th May 2019 3:47 pm
Davy pays attention to all my posts mobby, no matter how OT, inane, pointless, or just plain stupid they happen to be. As for the rest of you? You can go stick wooden penises up your behinds.
JuanP on Fri, 24th May 2019 6:43 pm
juanpee posted this
Davy on Fri, 24th May 2019 2:28 pm
“Dutch airports begin to fly on synthetic renewable kerosine:“
I would love to see that fuel bill. Lol
Cloggie on Fri, 24th May 2019 9:00 pm
The end of demonization
New Dutch WW2 museum shows the drama for the first time from two sides in a neutral way, without judgment:
https://www.trouw.nl/cultuur/helders-atlantikwall-centrum-wil-de-oorlog-van-twee-kanten-laten-zien~a33ecc9c/
The alllies needed to invent the hoax in hindsight to create the justification for their destruction and conquest of Europe (“liberation”). Russia is about to admit it and will come clean with past in return for admission to the European dinner table, now that the Anglos are about to retreat from history:
https://russia-insider.com/en/few-simple-arguments-which-cast-serious-doubt-holocaust/ri27109
“According to the World Jewish Encyclopaedia there resided 2.4 million Jews in German-Occupied Europe. After the war, 3.8 million Jewish ‘holocaust survivors’ were receiving pensions from the German government. Tragically, the remaining six million were lost.”
The Germans 1914-1945 were innocent on almost all counts.
Cloggie on Fri, 24th May 2019 9:46 pm
You gotta horse in this race?
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/24/22/13927456-7068477-image-a-16_1558732656020.jpg
I can imagine continental European troops in both the UK and US to separate warring factions.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7068477/Who-favourite-PM-analyse-race-No-10.html
World wars… first and second time a tragedy, third time a farce?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7066771/Without-single-warm-word-Theresa-Corbyn-calls-IMMEDIATE-general-election.html
“Corbyn is branded ‘classless’ after twisting the knife into May by tweeting: ‘She can’t govern, and nor can her divided and disintegrating party’”
To be fair to Jeremy, he is in favor of a classless society.
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1131870520155279360?s=20
DerHundistLos on Fri, 24th May 2019 10:15 pm
CLOGGIE:
THANKS FOR SHARING INFORMATION ON THE DUTCH WW II MUSEUM. FINALLY, SOME BALANCE.
Cloggie on Sat, 25th May 2019 3:06 am
“Dutch airports begin to fly on synthetic renewable kerosine:“
I would love to see that fuel bill. Lol
€195/barrel
Perfectly acceptable price, if we finally manage to put a just tax penalty on non-renewable kerosine. Way too many people are flying anyway, turning tourism (including me) into a global plague.
https://bvm2.nl/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/NB9906-PWAE-IM2018nj-M010-ingeleverde-versie.pdf
https://www.bjmgerard.nl/?p=6723
Cloggie on Sat, 25th May 2019 3:09 am
Note that the CO2 for synthetic kerosine comes from air, not from some industrial process.
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 25th May 2019 3:42 am
Elon Musk’s compensation last year is 20 times higher than any other CEO at $2.3 billion
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/24/business/highest-paid-ceos-2018.html
Thanks to fan boys like Clogg who can’t think objectively ie low IQ..
Cloggie on Sat, 25th May 2019 4:02 am
Do I hear a Llama shitting?
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/05/25/north-sea-long-term-vision-needed-eu-renewable-energy-policy-part-4/
“North Sea Long-Term Vision Needed — EU Renewable Energy Policy, Part 4”
Grumpy old Hollander (not me) basically passing the same pro-EU message about the North Sea as the primary source of energy income for Northern Europe.
Cloggie on Sat, 25th May 2019 4:08 am
Elon Musk’s compensation last year is 20 times higher than any other CEO at $2.3 billion
And now his head needs to be chopped off, just like needs to be done with all the other rich white guys, right mobby?
But for your beloved rich jews, we are going to make an exception, right mobby, you stinking hypocrit?
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/05/24/elon-musk-email-suggests-tesla-sales-record-is-within-reach-in-2nd-quarter-leaked-email/
“Elon Musk Email Suggests Tesla Sales Record Is Within Reach In 2nd Quarter (Leaked Email)”
Antius on Sat, 25th May 2019 5:30 am
“Elon Musk’s compensation last year is 20 times higher than any other CEO at $2.3 billion”
He owns the company. His ‘compensation’ is whatever he wants it to be. I don’t think there is anything scandalous or wrong with that. It is his money.
Musk’s problem is that he made billions from Paypal and then poured those billions into technology that he didn’t really understand. Some of his ventures (SpaceX) have been ground breaking and successful. Tesla has been a loss making disaster.
It need not have been so. Had Tesla focused on hybrid vehicles and gone into partnership with other automakers, it could have been a profitable success. But Musk bit off more than he could chew and poured cash into the wrong technological option.
No amount of money and brute force can turn an impractical technology into a good one. We see the same mistake repeated in his hyperloop venture. An overambitious project, with capital costs that are not affordable to the debt-strapped economies of the western world. We need simpler solutions that meet defined needs with minimal capital cost. That means looking for ways of building conventional electric railways more cheaply; trolley buses and trucks, hybrid vehicles, etc. These aren’t as impressive as supersonic hyperloops, but they get the job done at a price that we can afford.
Davy on Sat, 25th May 2019 6:02 am
“He owns the company. His ‘compensation’ is whatever he wants it to be. I don’t think there is anything scandalous or wrong with that. It is his money.”
Clog does not have enough business sense to realize these things Antius. Clog lives in his own little world.
“Musk’s problem is that he made billions from Paypal and then poured those billions into technology that he didn’t really understand. Some of his ventures (SpaceX) have been ground breaking and successful. Tesla has been a loss making disaster.”
Tesla is like a golf course. The second or third buyer will make money.
Davy on Sat, 25th May 2019 6:05 am
“€195/barrel Perfectly acceptable price, if we finally manage to put a just tax penalty on non-renewable kerosine. Way too many people are flying anyway, turning tourism (including me) into a global plague.”
What world does the clogg live in? That price effectively leaves flying to the military and the state. There is no way commercial aviation can function at that price. Give it a break cloggo you can’t put lipstick on that pig.
Davy on Sat, 25th May 2019 6:19 am
“Tesla has been a loss making disaster.”
I don’t care for Musk. He is a cocky rich fuck who is insane techno optimist planning shit we don’t need in a collapsing world. As far as Tesla, I would challenge anyone to find an automaker making money on EV’s. I imagine they are all loss makers. The economies of scale are not there and the price probably should be much higher to cover the true costs. One should include the gov subsidies in their purchase price also. Musk is amazing as a Wall Street shark. If one looks at Tesla’s market cap history it has been wildly optimistic when compared to Ford and GM who are many times bigger. This just goes to show you the nature of financialization. If you go to clean technica site you can see Musk and Tesla have a cult following. This is where modern life has gone with green. Fake green rich liberals eat this Musk shit up.
Antius on Sat, 25th May 2019 6:35 am
“What world does the clogg live in? That price effectively leaves flying to the military and the state. There is no way commercial aviation can function at that price. Give it a break cloggo you can’t put lipstick on that pig.”
Indeed. I don’t like to be too scathing of Cloggie, because he is one of the few contributors to this board who actually still contributes interesting content that is at least occasionally energy related.
But Kerosene at 200 Euro per barrel would make aviation unaffordable to most people. Given that oil prices crash in recession and high oil prices lead to recession, it is improbable that synthetic kerosene will ever compete with oil based kerosene regardless of whether oil production peaks or not.
The reason why renewable kerosene is so expensive, is that we are starting with a low EROI energy source and storing it in a product that locks in high energy losses.
If wind and solar electricity are the energy sources of the future, then my humble advice would be to use them to power transportation options that are energy efficient in terms of the end product you are trying to achieve. That probably means direct electric, applied to rail and road based vehicles. In some cases, stored energy systems may be appropriate where they are cheap and simple and remain relatively efficient. Think flywheels, hydraulic cylinders and low-pressure compressed air, applied to things like buses.
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 25th May 2019 6:42 am
Clogg
Your country is saved..
Cow poop could help us make clean(er) energy
https://www.popsci.com/cow-pig-poo-biogas-natural-gas
HAHAHH!
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 25th May 2019 6:45 am
Antius
He didn’t found Tesla, he just bought it out..And he made money from Paypall because they use to close people’s accounts that had small amounts in them..Because they knew they couldn’t afford to sue them..And since they were an official bank..They weren’t regulated properly..
And his parents got rich from apartheid in South Africa..And his father impregnated his young step daughter..
Davy on Sat, 25th May 2019 7:06 am
“If wind and solar electricity are the energy sources of the future, then my humble advice would be to use them to power transportation options that are energy efficient in terms of the end product you are trying to achieve.”
Yea but the more important action is changing driving behavior. You can’t make driving green nor efficient with current behavior. The culture of driving needs to be adapted and this goes even deeper than transport. This goes down to the cultural narrative of techno optimism and the pursuit of affluence through consumerism. Until this is adapted then nothing changes. We just spend increasing amounts of money trying to be efficient with new novel ways to do the same behavior that cannot be made green and efficient. This is all fake green and destine to failure. The rich eat this fake green shit up.
“That probably means direct electric, applied to rail and road based vehicles. In some cases, stored energy systems may be appropriate where they are cheap and simple and remain relatively efficient. Think flywheels, hydraulic cylinders and low-pressure compressed air, applied to things like buses.”
These are important techno innovations but remember the cost of switching over even a small amount of the 1BIL vehicle stock in the world. It is not going to happen except in richer regions and even there likely not that much considering the true costs. In the meantime the entire global economy races to the brink with oil and ICE. Until the world adapts its behavior in a common manner away from the culture we now promote we are lock into failure. You can’t cover over this bad behavior with fake green and the marvelous of tech. It is the flying pig with the added novelty of lipstick. It is people like cloggo that drive this nonsense. I am not against tech I am against the attitudes that drive this techno optimism. Tech is part of the solution to adaptation and mitigation of the worst to come but it will not solve anything as long as behavior is such as it is. We are buying time with tech as we dig the hole deeper.
Cloggie on Sat, 25th May 2019 7:40 am
What world does the clogg live in? That price effectively leaves flying to the military and the state. There is no way commercial aviation can function at that price. Give it a break cloggo you can’t put lipstick on that pig.
Sigh.
The first solar cells used by NASA in the sixties were perhaps 10,000 times more expensive per kW then they are today.
Likewise, this 195€/barrel is first generation technology, small scale test facility of 1,000 liter (6 barrel) per day.
Like with solaroad, the price is almost irrelevant. The first concern is to get the technology to work and next see if you can get the price down via tweaking and economy of scale.
Furthermore, keeping air travel for the masses going, should be the least of our concerns in the light of the problems we are facing.
Davy on Sat, 25th May 2019 7:56 am
“Companies explore how to make your home smart and 100% renewable-powered”
https://tinyurl.com/y2ww8krg renewable energy world
“After he moved into a new home in 2013, he installed 23 photo-voltaic panels on the roof capable of generating 5.3 kilowatts of power, about enough for his family of four. Lightsource BP added a battery to store the electricity the panels generate, an inverter which can be programmed to dispatch the stored electrons when needed, and a diverter to send surplus power to heat the water in his tank. Hill controls this kit, which he estimates cost about $13,000, with an app that gives real time information. So he could be camel-riding in Mongolia and the technology will still know the best time to generate power in his England home and charge the battery. At night, when the solar panels are effectively useless, the battery can juice-up his electric car. “The main aim is to use everything we generate within the home,” Hill, wearing a dark green shirt with a windmill on it, said over a cup of tea in his kitchen. “So anything that goes from the PV to the grid is a wasted opportunity that we can save money on.”
“For anyone with less interest in tinkering with their day-to-day power use, Lightsource BP is offering to take control. The company specializes in efficiently generating Hill’s own electricity so he doesn’t produce any surplus which can only be sold to the grid at discounted prices. And ensures he doesn’t end up buying more expensive fossil fuel-generated power. When the customer moves around the house, the artificial intelligence box learns patterns, like when a person works from home, or is on vacation, with the purpose of closely matching electricity generation with in-house consumption. It can do things like predict the next day’s weather, detect individual appliances, collect data on how often and at what times they are used, and help produce a greater share of the power at home.”
Davy on Sat, 25th May 2019 7:57 am
I have 12 x 300watt panels tied to a 48Volt 220 system batteries and inverter. I cannot sell excess power back to the grid. Yesterday I gathered 11KW of power. I did this because the house was cooled with my Daiken inverter zone climate control system. I have 4 wall units in different areas. This is basically a very efficient A/C unit and my home is very well insulated. I can also use an air handler to transfer cold air off the concrete floor from my bottom split level floor that is 5 foot in the ground. This utilizes the cool ground to cool the upstairs.
I did all this manually. Each one of my home breakers is connected to a transfer switch so depending on needs and the weather I can switch different circuits to solar or grid to get maximum gathering. If the clouds move in I come back to the house to switch some usage off. The high draw items like oven, water heater, and cloths dryer are grid tied. Of course I can line dry in the summer. The electric water heater is a backup unit to my wood boiler. If power goes out I have propane gas backup to cook with or charcoal grill. The point I am making here is demand management can be done very inexpensively by somebody that is at home during the day. It takes active engagement with energy usage (demand management). I realize many people must leave their home during the day to work but those who don’t can do this manual demand management inexpensively.
I also believe in a hybrid system of grid and solar supplied power. This allows a homeowner to tie up less money in a home system because of the flexibility. Grid power is cheaper than the cost of my solar system depreciated out over time. I have done the numbers. It is possible that one day grid power might get expensive if this happens I might have cheaper power from my solar system. I also have a wood boiler with the added adaptation of solar water heating in the summer so I don’t need to heat water with wood. This system is tied to an electric water heater. The water coming into the water heater is preheated by the boiler system. In the winter when I am heating the house the system can be switched to be all wood boiler heated water. I have all LED lighting. I ask my wife to use high draw on hot water when the sun is good in the summer. In the winter I don’t care because the wood boiler heating the home always has a fire. The wood boiler can be shut off in the winter and the home heated with electric tied to the grid if I go away for a day or two. I can also run my inverter with solar on heat mode in winter. I can use selected electric heat units with low draw in the winter if I get an exceptional sunny clear winter day.
During the day I maximize my gathering of solar energy. I go all grid power at night. I have my batteries at maximum charge for longevity but also in case of power failure. We don’t use much power at night anyway. The ingredients for success in this demand management system is manual switching of a hybrid grid and solar system. It starts with a very well insulated home and good power usage behavior. This kind of system adapts the best of solar and the grid for lower cost. I also hope that eventually the grid is greener so when I use the grid I am actually also utilizing some green sources. The solar system with batteries is a must from a prepper in my opinion as an added benefit.
Cloggie on Sat, 25th May 2019 7:57 am
What world does the clogg live in? That price effectively leaves flying to the military and the state. There is no way commercial aviation can function at that price. Give it a break cloggo you can’t put lipstick on that pig.
It is obvious that Davy was too lazy to make a back of an envelope calculation, so I did:
https://www.carbonindependent.org/sources_aviation.html
Fuel use flying: 32 gram per km per passenger.
My flight from Holland to southern Spain and back is roughly 4,000 km or 132 kg.
Weight kerosine in water: 0.80
Barrel is 159 liter
Fuel consumption expressed in barrel: 165 liter which is a barrel.
In other words: fuel cost 200€, which is NOT astronomical on a 1500 € vacation of 1 week all in.
Davy on Sat, 25th May 2019 8:06 am
By the way, that’s what I call permaculture. Until the grid goes down and the batteries wear out. Than it’s all not so permanent.
Cloggie on Sat, 25th May 2019 8:18 am
Der Spiegel mocks the populists but is also afraid of them:
https://magazin.spiegel.de/EpubDelivery/image/title/SP/2019/22/300
“Europe’s cleaners”
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 25th May 2019 8:25 am
The richest 10% of households now represent 70% of all U.S. wealth
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-richest-10-of-households-now-represent-70-of-all-us-wealth-2019-05-24?link=sfmw_tw
JuanP on Sat, 25th May 2019 8:28 am
juanpee posted this
Davy on Sat, 25th May 2019 8:06 am
By the way, that’s what I call permaculture. Until the grid goes down and the batteries wear out. Than it’s all not so permanent.
Davy on Sat, 25th May 2019 8:35 am
“It is obvious that Davy was too lazy to make a back of an envelope calculation, so I did:
https://www.carbonindependent.org/sources_aviation.html
Fuel use flying: 32 gram per km per passenger. My flight from Holland to southern Spain and back is roughly 4,000 km or 132 kg. Weight kerosine in water: 0.80 Barrel is 159 liter Fuel consumption expressed in barrel: 165 liter which is a barrel. In other words: fuel cost 200€, which is NOT astronomical on a 1500 € vacation of 1 week all in.”
Cloggo, fuel is only part of the costs to what is already the marginal activity of commercial aviation. Most airlines are barely profitable and when fuel costs go up they are loss makers. When fuel goes to 200 euros level commercial aviation is essentially dead. Another thing dead is your brain dead mind with its back of the envelope dumbass. Man you are lost in a world of make believe when it comes to economics.
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Cloggie on Sat, 25th May 2019 9:08 am
“Cloggo, fuel is only part of the costs to what is already the marginal activity of commercial aviation. Most airlines are barely profitable and when fuel costs go up they are loss makers. When fuel goes to 200 euros level commercial aviation is essentially dead. Another thing dead is your brain dead mind with its back of the envelope dumbass. Man you are lost in a world of make believe when it comes to economics.”
The RyanAirs go out of business indeed and Joe Sixpack will stop flying. Cheap airlines will disappear and flying will be attainable only for the better off, like in the sixties. I can live with that. But what do you know about economics.
Davy on Sat, 25th May 2019 9:23 am
Cloggo, what is this then, did I change your one track mind:
“Fuel use flying: 32 gram per km per passenger. My flight from Holland to southern Spain and back is roughly 4,000 km or 132 kg. Weight kerosine in water: 0.80 Barrel is 159 liter Fuel consumption expressed in barrel: 165 liter which is a barrel. In other words: fuel cost 200€, which is NOT astronomical on a 1500 € vacation of 1 week all in.”
To this:
The RyanAirs go out of business indeed and Joe Sixpack will stop flying. Cheap airlines will disappear and flying will be attainable only for the better off, like in the sixties. I can live with that. But what do you know about economics.”
LMFAO