Sometimes, I have this horrible feeling that the battle against fake news and propaganda is just impossible to win. The latest example is an article appeared on the unnamable WUWT blog, which repeats the story that someone in 1894 “predicted” that 9 feet of horse manure would soon accumulate in the street of London. And, of course, since that didn’t happen, we are free forever and ever from any and every possible kind of catastrophe.
Let me repeat it, this is a legend. I wrote that two years ago on the Cassandra blog: nobody ever wrote such a thing on “The Times” nor anywhere else. People keep repeating what they hear from other people and keep thinking that sheer volume means truth. It is pure invention, fake news.
What I found most bewildering is how slick it is the report on WUWT – note how subtly they link an article with the words “but fake“. It is a recent article by Rose Wild where she says exactly what I said in my 2016 article: There never was such a headline on The Times.
But the WUWT author, Larry Kummer, never states that explicitly. The hurried reader will surely think that the term “but fake” refers not to the existence of the 1894 article, but to its wrong predictions. This is reinforced by the sentence “accurately describing the views of the time.” It is hard to think that a non-existing article could be accurate about anything. Slick, indeed.
You would think that people have had enough of propaganda after having been duped so many times on so many issues but, no, propaganda continues to exist and thrive. Actually, it seems to be increasing in volume and importance. Maybe it is part of the way the universe works. Maybe the universe itself has been created as a giant propaganda machine to convince the Gods that the Ragnarok will never come and that Odin will never be eaten by the wolf Fenrir. Who knows? Maybe we are all the dream of a sleeping God who is having a nightmare.
Note: there are hundreds of thousands of Web pages reporting the story of the “Great Horse Manure Crisis of 1894” as if it were a historical fact – If there are any which say it is a hoax, they are extremely difficult to find.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 8:28 am
“If your family makes over 40K/annum you are a one percenter.”
In relation to 7 plus billion yeas but in the normal usage of the term no.
If you family owns a private jet and a retreat in the Bahamas, you are a .0001%er.
You can’t call someone a .0001% because of their family? Sorry, they are not paying my bill despite what you try to say. I no longer go to the Bahamas and no longer use the jet to go down there. I left that life gregger. You can’t accuse me of being a stupid goat farmer and a .0001% er. It comes down to just attack de jure depending on what your motives are. You have more money than I do acknowledging you made $1MIL on a Vancouver home sale and you have a doctor wife. Add to that your comfortble retirement (your words) so I think you are more monetarily set then I am and you are pointing fingers at me. What’s up with that?
“No doubt everyone on the forum is likely a one percenter. No doubt the vast majority here have never even been in the Bamahas, let alone stepped foot on a private jet.”
Your buddy 3rd world has and he has bragged about his other travels to the Bahamas and other places or di you conveniently miss that? You have been to Hawaii which is more costly than the Bahamas. What is your problem with the private jet? If it is climate change related then look at it this way. I have not been to the Bahamas in 3 year. Dad is not healthy enough to go there anymore. Thank god because I don’t want to ever leave the farm. I have too much going on and no one to fill in. You have gone on several trips since then so your carbon foot print is bigger than mine. Spelling nazi spell Bahamas right please.
Gregger, you are pointing fingers at me when you should be looking in the mirror. You shouldn’t be throwing rocks in your glass house.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 8:28 am
oh sorry spelling nazi, i see you caught your error
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 8:30 am
“We are likely an insignificant place in their greater scheme of things.”
Peak Oil is still not on the vast majority of peoples’ radars. This site attracts a fringe element of society.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 8:30 am
“What I said is the conspiracy theories are extreme and excessive and do not reflect reality.”
The ones you guys invent here. List them you invented them
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 8:33 am
“Planetary decline for sure. The decline of globalism will affect those who are most reliant on it. Those who are currently accustomed to more than their lion’s share of global resources. We in North America will be affected the most.”
We are all reliant on globalism directly or indirectly especially the poor that are barely able to feed themselves and the nearly poor who will be barely able to feed themselves once SHTF. It is obvious the developed world will hurt bad too just different and all this depends on how collapse shakes out.
“Billions will notice little, if any difference in their day to day lives.”
Nonsense
“Some locations will fare better, once the globalists no longer have the means to continue bombing their countries back into the Stone Age.”
True
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 8:35 am
“Peak Oil is still not on the vast majority of peoples’ radars. This site attracts a fringe element of society.”
definitely there are some seriously screwed up extremist here.
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 8:37 am
” Dad is not healthy enough to go there anymore.”
When Dad passes, do you plan on donating your inheritance to the homeless in St. Louis?
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 8:41 am
“The ones you guys invent here. List them you invented them.”
Which theories did us guys here invent Davy?
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 8:44 am
“definitely there are some seriously screwed up extremist here.”
Extremist is just another one of the words used to deflect the conversation, just like conspiracy theorists, and Nazi.
Cloggie on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 8:44 am
neder, you are the braggart with the 6 figure salary and you call me a one percenter which is not true. Even when I had a good paying job I was not a one percenter. I was a ten percenter at best
You called yourself a “one-percenter” a long time ago. In my view it is not so much about how much money you make, but the loyalty to the US empire that determines if you are a 1-percenter or not.
I wish I was in the Dutch 1-percent wealth bracket, but alas. I’m merely twice the Dutch household average, the latter being 200k euro. Blame my indolence and tendency to waste time on foreign internet boards for this sad state of affairs, although I think I will at least double my current status if I’ll score with a software package under my own control, in a couple of years.
Dutch wealth distribution: upper 10% has everything, upper 28,000 have 50% of all wealth. Countries like Germany and most of all the US are worse in inequality.
http://adbroere.nl/web/images/vermogensverdeling-2014-2.jpg?w=481&h=289
MASTERMIND on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 8:50 am
Greg
Only you know the correct meaning words..Since you are all knowing..I think your tin foil hat is on a little to tight..
MASTERMIND on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 8:53 am
Clogg
Just wait till the oil starts to run out here shortly..The status quo’s days are history..You better put on a new pair of underwear because you are going to soil yourself..
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 9:07 am
Grehggie, my mom will outlive me so ask her please. She had me at a young age and is in excellent health. It is amazing how you mess with family and think it is ok.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 9:09 am
Greggie, they are your conspiracies so you list them. You are the expert.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 9:10 am
What is your excuse then greggie for your positions that are deflections?
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 9:16 am
“You called yourself a “one-percenter” a long time ago. In my view it is not so much about how much money you make, but the loyalty to the US empire that determines if you are a 1-percenter or not.”
Ah, yea still am in relation to the billions of poor. Give me a break on the loyalty to empire thingy. This is the kind of extremist talk I have such a problem with. I am tired of your anti-Americanism. You ugly people want Americans dead. Or you are a backstabber like grehggie that says he loves American as he is thrusting a knife into their back. At lease anonymous1 has no apologies for hating Americans. I appreciate honesty.
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 11:17 am
“Grehggie, my mom will outlive me so ask her please. She had me at a young age and is in excellent health. It is amazing how you mess with family and think it is ok.”
I wasn’t messing with family Davy, it was a sincere question. And I doubt very much that your mom is younger than you are, so unless you have some kind of illness, she shouldn’t outlive you.
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 11:24 am
“Greggie, they are your conspiracies so you list them. You are the expert.”
You accused other’s of inventing conspiracy theories Davy.
Please tell ” us guys” which conspiracy theories we invented so we can defend ourselves against your accusations.
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 11:31 am
“You ugly people want Americans dead. Or you are a backstabber like grehggie that says he loves American as he is thrusting a knife into their back.”
I have many friends and family members who are Americans Davy. I do not hate Americans, and I am not thrusting knives into any other peoples’ backs.
This is exactly the kind of delusional BS that is causing so much discontent between yourself and so many others on this board.
Please try to counter other peoples’ opinions without resorting to lies and personal attacks.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 11:48 am
Greggie, mom had me young and in relation to women’s increase lifespan I imagine she could outlive and or WTF would money matter if I am very old and worn out. Greggie, all your questions are a sincere effort to attack me. Don’t play your dishonest games with me.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 11:51 am
Go back and reference the thread grehggie and we can talk about who said what said. I am putting up fence. It is hot with bugs around my head IOW in you cool comfort you can do it.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 11:58 am
Empty comment grehggie because you and the groupies are virulent extremist anti-Americans. You camouflage your message of hate but I have been here long enough and have seen your selfish, subjective, and emotional comments to know what makes you tick. The backstabber label fits you the best here because you tell us how much you love Americans but the truth is Americans in general are enemy #1. You Canadians get it from mama’s milk and it infects the next generation. This is going to explode in your faces someday.
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 11:58 am
“Greggie, mom had me young and in relation to women’s increase lifespan I imagine she could outlive and or WTF would money matter if I am very old and worn out”
You have access to a safety net that others do not Davy. If you ran into difficulties in the future, please do not try to tell everyone here that your family would leave you high and dry. They wouldn’t.
Cloggie on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 11:59 am
“You ugly people want Americans dead.”
Where did I say that I want Americans dead?
I DO remember YOU saying more than once gloatingly that the US “kicked European ass”, while burning alive millions in order to add Germany and the rest of Europe to the US empire, now almost defunct. The only purpose of WW2 was exactly that: extend kosher control from the US over Europe.
Projecting again.
What I DO say that soon the natural hierarchy is ging to be restored between the Mother Civilization and the former colony of 3 centuries.
Not that you deserve such luck.
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:01 pm
“Go back and reference the thread grehggie and we can talk about who said what said.”
I can’t read your mind Davy, and I’m not good with guessing games. Please tell everyone who ‘you guys’ are, and what theories you are referring to that those guys invented.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:04 pm
Ah, where did I say that dumbass? Because I didn’t. I am on good terms with my family. You are a moron to keep pushing this family thing. You have done this for years now. You are in a richer place than me grehggie pointing fingers at me trying to prove an attack point that has egg on you stupid face. Like you say always give it a rest already.
Cloggie on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:04 pm
Congratulations to Juan: Uruguay has just beaten KSA, not that I did expect anything else:
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/wm-2018-spielplan-fussball-liveticker-gruppen-teilnehmer-stadion-a-965816.html#contest=wm&matchday=2&match=3070409
So in the coming game between Russia and Uruguay they can both lean back a little, because both are through to the next round.
Tonight we are going to enjoy the slaughter of Iran at the merciless hands… err feet of the Spanish.
#RiojaAndTortilla!
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:04 pm
“You Canadians get it from mama’s milk and it infects the next generation. This is going to explode in your faces someday.”
In all honesty Davy, can you not see how delusional your above comment is?
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:07 pm
“Ah, where did I say that dumbass? Because I didn’t. I am on good terms with my family.”
Then you obviously still have access to the family fortune. Which was exactly my point.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:08 pm
You “guys” are the groupie gang of 5 and you dudes thrive on conspiracies, hiistory revisions, and fantasy futures. I expose them through moderation daily. It is a lot of work because of the number of gang members and the amount of comments:
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:13 pm
Greggie, lets talk about your fortune and the wife’s job. I know you are proud of the trophy kids and you speak highly of mom and dad. Sounds like you are one of those rich Canadians living better than most of the world but extremely unhappy hence the anti-Americanism.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:14 pm
Greggie, you are so friggen delusional you think what I said was delusional. How’s that block head!
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:18 pm
Oh, neder you don’t come out an say it in particular. Your whole MO is death to Americans in general in civil war or world war. It fits your PBM empire thesis perfectly. You and 3rd world are disgusting war lusting pigs.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:26 pm
Davy
Please stop arguing with greg and madkat..its not worth it..they will just Mark Twain it all up..
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:30 pm
Mm, how about you cover and enable for me like grehggie does for 3rd world. That way it will take some of the heavy lifting off my shoulders.
Anonymouse1 on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:42 pm
ROFL, look everyone, the exceptionaltrud is asking HIS OWN SOCK, to help him out. Like what has been doing all this time, dumbass. You can’t make stuff like this, up, truely.
LoL.
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 12:49 pm
And you wonder why you are unable to get along with so many others on this board Davy, and no doubt, in the real world as well.
JuanP on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:03 pm
Delusional Davy “Mm, how about you cover and enable for me like grehggie does for 3rd world. That way it will take some of the heavy lifting off my shoulders.”
Poor widdle Davy! LOL!
Cloggie on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:07 pm
“‘Mm, how about you cover and enable for me like grehggie does for 3rd world.“
Anglo-Zionism at its finest.
Come on millimind, don’t be so cruel and support your loyal goy-in-distress!
JuanP on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:10 pm
Delusional Davy “… and the wife’s job. I know you are proud of the trophy kids and you speak highly of mom and dad. Sounds like you are one of those rich Canadians living better than most of the world but extremely unhappy hence the anti-Americanism.
Being anti exceptionalist is not the same as being anti American, Davy. Most of us are ambivalent about our relation to the USA because it has so many good and bad characteristics. Most of us also know tons of Americans that we love and/or like. Most of the Americans I’ve met in my life were not bad people, IMO. You, however, do not represent your country; you’d be a freak anywhere, including the USA.
Boat on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:13 pm
Clog
I caught one soccer match. Mexicans whipped the Germans. A sign of the times.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:14 pm
Clog
Just wait till the oil runs out and I will chop your family tree down..
LMFAO!
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:14 pm
“And you wonder why you are unable to get along with so many others on this board Davy, and no doubt, in the real world as well.”
Let’s rephrase that as unable to get alone with the groupie gang of 5 asswipes. You are clueless about the real world that is for sure.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:16 pm
Boat
Whitey can’t compete in sports..Too fat and obese, they eat too much cheese and dairy..They can’t dance or sing either..That is why woman don’t want to breed with them anymore..
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:16 pm
“Just wait till the oil runs out and I will chop your family tree down..”
What an absolutely devoid of intelligence and completely immature and absurd thing to say MM.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:17 pm
mission accomplished 4 of the groupie 5 speak in my regard. That is rapid fire responses pussies. Thanks for the attention. I think you guys suck too.
JuanP on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:19 pm
Delusional Davy “You “guys” are the groupie gang of 5 and you dudes thrive on conspiracies, hiistory revisions, and fantasy futures. I expose them through moderation daily. It is a lot of work because of the number of gang members and the amount of comments:”
Priceless! I have to congratulate the exceptionalist on his full time efforts to expose and moderate. LOL! Davy transcends what I thought was possible. Interacting with someone like him necessarily expands our understanding of humanity. As long as the world is peopled by lunatics like Davy we are doomed! ROFLMFAO!
Boat on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:20 pm
JaunP
Could you give me a list of the exceptionalists in the US? Are they Jewish? European? No Latino, right? The best assimilators, the Japanese have to be considered exceptional. I would bet you have to be tall and white. Right?
GregT on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:20 pm
““Mm, how about you cover and enable for me like grehggie does for 3rd world.”
3rd world’s real username is Makati1 Davy, and as an American citizen his rights of freedom of speech are protected under constitutional law. Whether I agree with his views, or not, is irrelevant.
Davy on Wed, 20th Jun 2018 1:21 pm
“Being anti exceptionalist is not the same as being anti American, Davy.”
What are you talking about stupid? You are the exceptionalist south American playboy hangin at the beach. Get a friggen job and earn your keep pussy.
“Most of us are ambivalent about our relation to the USA because it has so many good and bad characteristics. “
Most of you in the groupie gang of 5 are virulent extremist anti-American thugs that stalk and prick this board forcing your agenda on others. You are disgusting people.
“Most of us also know tons of Americans that we love and/or like.”
“Tons” WTF, can’t even talk right.
“Most of the Americans I’ve met in my life were not bad people, IMO. You, however, do not represent your country; you’d be a freak anywhere, including the USA.”
I know you want to apologize for your hatred but I am not buying it. Sell it on your buddy mm you love to play with.