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Will the US Economic Collapse Happen in 2018? The economic forecast for 2018 is more than bleak, and there is more than enough economic data out there to show there could be an economic collapse and stock market crash in 2018.
352 Comments on "Prepare For The Imminent Economic Collapse 2018"
MASTERMIND on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 6:50 pm
Madkat
The global economy is going to collapse before that ever happens. And as long as Saudi and Iraqi oil is pegged to dollars there will always be a need for them.
Global economic growth has peaked, says World Bank
https://www.ft.com/content/4b9e6190-f55e-11e7-88f7-5465a6ce1a00
MASTERMIND on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 6:52 pm
Madkat
Our you an economist or a currency expert? No you are an old feeble minded construction worker. Stick to what you know best!
Davy on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 6:53 pm
“China and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) want a yuan reserve currency – and are doing everything they can to make it happen. Their plan is already so far along that the U.S dollar could be on its way out as the world’s primary reserve currency as early as September 2016.”
OOpps, check the date there dumbass.
Mad Kat on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 7:14 pm
MM, I’m a rational thinker with 73 years of experience living in the real world. Economists are chicken guts readers who are always wrong but make a living by feeding gullible people. I can read and understand what I read. You obviously cannot or you are just being an obstinate* child. you choose.
*Obstinate definition, firmly or stubbornly adhering to one’s purpose, opinion, etc.; not yielding to argument, persuasion, or entreaty.
Mad Kat on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 7:17 pm
Davy, they are correct. Your quote: “…the U.S dollar could be on its way out as the world’s primary reserve currency as early as September 2016.” It specifies “on the way out” which is correct. It doesn’t say that it will replace the USD by then. Comprehension problem?
MASTERMIND on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 8:06 pm
Madkat
Your article is out of date and irrelevant now…See I can make up my own expiration dates too.
MASTERMIND on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 8:08 pm
Madkat
The older you are the lower your IQ and dumber you are…The human IQ peaks at age 25 and goes into permanent decline. Do you really think you are as sharp as someone my age? You most likely can’t even get an erection anymore…You will be pissing and shitting your paints soon enough! Wait and see! lol
MASTERMIND on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 8:50 pm
Davy
This is why Madkat lies about his and Asia’s situation.
American Psychological Association’s Concise Dictionary of Psychology:
“An unpleasant reality is ignored, and a realistic interpretation of potentially threatening events is replaced by a benign but inaccurate one.”
MASTERMIND on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 8:52 pm
All species, whether a weed, tomato plant, individual human or nation fight each other over energy. I wonder if weeds convince each other that it’s over “freedom & liberty” like the US does?
Cloggie on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 9:16 pm
“an ever closer union”.
Gaullist nonsense”
You don’t have a clue.
“ever closer union” is an EU concept, of which right-winger de Gaulle would never have approved. He would never have approved with the EU to begin with, which would lead to the USE. The German SPD says that the USE should be a fact by 2025:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/07/martin-schulz-united-states-of-europe-germany-sdp
Fortunately not going to happen, these centralist USSR/USA nightmares.
MASTERMIND on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 9:23 pm
Clogg
Get a girlfriend or boyfriend..And stop spamming this site with your political garbage and renewable s nonsense. Dont you get tired of being disproved and looking like a fool?
Cloggie on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 9:49 pm
Boat says: “You yourself talk of the far right gaining influence in the EU and let’s not forget the UK. Poland and others dont like the EU green mandates and it took trump to squeese out more dollars for a military. Lol, a ever closer union? Hows that Muslim migration worrking out for you. You paid off the Greece debt yet? Merkle and France seem together but is Germany with Merkle? They seem united on Russian sanctions though.”
Yep, but the UK is out, perhaps, which Brussels wants to use as opportunity for further centralization:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-juncker/juncker-grab-brexit-chance-to-forge-a-tighter-eu-idUSKCN1BO0OI
But the last real US deep state vassal Merkel is politically walking on her last legs. The rest is moving to the right.
Muslim immigration? What immigration? Merkel would love to, but all the routes are closed. This 2015 1.5 million disaster will not be repeated and created the AfD, now the third party and growing.
Merkel is on the way out, rising is a new generation of politicians like Austrian PM Kurtz, with 30 the youngest in Europe. He wants closed borders and breaking with anti-Russian sanctions. But they are all pro-Europe:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WKRxqwnB75g
Kurtz has taken over initiative from Merkel. The Meditarenean is our very effective wall, only 100,000 achieve the crossing per year, which is peanuts, and Macron wants to stop even that. The only way for Macron to stop the populists is by becoming one himself.lol
Everything is set for a huge geopolitical change. All we in Europe need to do is wait for the likes of davy and millimind and similar “Natzi” shouters to complete the destruction of the US via mass migration and anticipate its breaking apart, shortly after Trump, either in 2021 or 2025. Then the time has arrived for Paris-Berlin-Moscow Europe of the Fatherlands confederation and we can grab ourselves a white piece of the American pie, all in consent with the rising alt-right and reintegrate that white piece into the European world. Everybody happy, except davy and george soros.
MASTERMIND on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 10:04 pm
Clogg
what mass migration?
https://imgur.com/a/OnOTw
You are just a paranoid lunatic. Trying to scaremonger…And it doesnt matter which party is in charge because all parties are impotent against the limits to growth..
MASTERMIND on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 10:08 pm
Clog
shortly after Trump, either in 2021 or 2025. Then the time has arrived for Paris-Berlin-Moscow Europe of the Fatherlands confederation and we can grab ourselves a white piece of the American pie, all in consent with the rising alt-right and reintegrate that white piece into the European world. Everybody happy, except davy and george soros.
bwwwwwwaaaaa!!!!! what a paranoid delusion! Get help Clog if not for yourself do it for your families sake.
Mad Kat on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 10:45 pm
Muddymind, You and Davy are perfect Laurel and Hardy partners. Your immature rants just keep pointing to your low IQ. You better hope IQ does not diminish as you age or you will be in the minus numbers before you are 50. Oh, that’s right, you are going to take the coward’s way out. LMAO.
Mad Kat on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 10:49 pm
“This is why Madkat lies about his and Asia’s situation.” Jealous? I think so.
MM, you have never been to Asia. Nor do you know me or what I have. You are nothing but a bragging huge pile of bullshit living in mom’s basement and taking her welfare money for drugs. See, I can make up bullshit about you… or did I hit the nail on the head? LOL
MASTERMIND on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 11:02 pm
Madkat
If you want to ignore five peer reviewed scientific studies. Go right ahead. One was funded by NASA and authored by one of our top mathematician and scientists. One was authored at MIT by top scientist. One was authored by the worlds leader in population studies at the royal society of the UK…And one was authored by Germany’s top government scientists..And they all say global collapse which includes you and your region. The worlds financial systems are all connected together. When one goes down they all will. Along with all global trade and all currencies will be worthless. Good luck you moron! Remember me when you are robbed,beaten,eaten! LOL I will have taken the easy way out!
Mad Kat on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 11:32 pm
Whoopee! A government bot and an arrogant, ivory tower slug like yourself. And they are supposed to tell the truth?
MIT is government owned and run. Nothing comes out of there without the stamp of approval from the powers that be. You hang onto “peer reviewed” like it is some religious text from the Edu god. LMAO
Yes, they are all connected, but to different degrees. You and Davy don’t seem to understand perspectives. “Down” is relative, not absolute. The distance from the top of Mount Everest (~29,000′) is a lot farther than from Mount Snow (~3,600′) Which would you prefer to fall off of? You will lose almost everything. A typical Filipino will lose little, if anything. If you have nothing, there is nothing to lose.
Now, reread that and try to comprehend, ok?
Mad Kat on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 11:33 pm
BTW: A famous author described a PhD as “Piled higher and deeper”. I don’t think he was talking about IQ. LMAO
MASTERMIND on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 11:53 pm
Madkat
Your conspircy’s are pathetic..why do you have to make shit up without proof? You are so desperate, you just cant handle reality and the truth…I think dementia is setting in!
MASTERMIND on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 11:54 pm
Global economy set for decade of gloom as World Bank predicts recovery will fizzle out
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/01/09/global-economy-set-decade-gloom-world-bank-predicts-recovery/
GregT on Thu, 18th Jan 2018 11:56 pm
“And as long as Saudi and Iraqi oil is pegged to dollars there will always be a need for them.”
There are 30 different countries that call their currencies dollars MM. I assume that you would be referring to the US dollar, which is the currency of less than 5% of the world’s population.
GregT on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 12:01 am
“If you want to ignore five peer reviewed scientific studies. Go right ahead.”
None of those reports come to the same conclusions that you have MM, as I have pointed out many times before.
“I will have taken the easy way out!”
Please get it over with now, and stop with your childish trolling of these forums. It’s way beyond stupid already.
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 12:33 am
Greg
What year did the limits to growth simulations conclude an economic collapse? 2030 another decade just as I said…You are the biggest fucking liar and pussy! What happened to bring it on? Now you have to lie to yourself! LOL Shows what a true pussy you are!
Study: Limits to Growth was Right. Research Shows We’re Nearing Global Collapse (Turner, 2014)
http://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdf
Mad Kat on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 12:33 am
MM, you live in a Disney/Hollywood world. With a few notable exceptions here, most of us live in the real one.
I guess you have nothing better to do than waste your life on the internet acting stupid and childish while living off of your girlfriend and mom.
I suggest a cheap sawed off and number 12 shot. That way you cannot miss with the barrel in your mouth. Wouldn’t want to just mess up your brain and you be a vegetable for the rest of your life. I’m sure you can pick one up locally since you live in gangster land, once a decent city called Chicago.
BTW: Yes, I did visit Chicago, in the 80s, with my wife, to attend some three day seminar on construction estimating. You cannot claim to have ever been to Manila.
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 12:35 am
Greg
Two decades this study concludes just like the limits to growth..
NASA Study: Industrial Civilization is Headed for Irreversible Collapse (Motesharrei, 2014)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800914000615
Now go cry you little bitch! Looks like someone is scared!
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 12:39 am
Madkat
Don’t get mad at me because you have no proof to back up your “Only the west will collapse’ theory..
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 12:40 am
Crash fears escalate as markets hit highs not seen since Black Tuesday and dotcom disaster
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/11/05/markets-lookout-shock-crash-us-stocks-record-highs/
Markets are ignoring ‘major risk’ of rising interest rates and end of QE, warns Citigroup
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/01/08/markets-ignore-danger-central-banks-reverse-qe-warns-citigroup/
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 12:43 am
Madkat
I live in Disney land? I have given you several studies of peer reviewed evidence. And you have made up paranoid conspiracies about them all. And attacked Doctors for not knowing anything..
And you have given me nothing to prove your argument….You are the one using make believe because you have no reasons.
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 12:50 am
Att Doomie preppers!
World Scientists “Warning to Humanity” Signed by 15,000 Scientists from 184 Countries Including the Majority of all Nobel Prize Winners
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171113111127.htm
Scientific American: Apocalypse Soon: Has Civilization Passed the Environmental Point of No Return?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/apocalypse-soon-has-civilization-passed-the-environmental-point-of-no-return/
NASA Study: Industrial Civilization is Headed for Irreversible Collapse (Motesharrei, 2014)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800914000615
The Royal Society: Study, Now for the First Time A Global Collapse Appears Likely (Ehrlich, 2013)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3574335/
Study: Limits to Growth was Right. Research Shows We’re Nearing Global Collapse (Turner, 2014)
http://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdf
Study: Financial System Supply-Chain Cross-Contagion: in Global Systemic Collapse (Korowicz, 2012)
http://www.feasta.org/2012/06/17/trade-off-financial-system-supply-chain-cross-contagion-a-study-in-global-systemic-collapse/
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 12:51 am
‘WORSE THAN 2007’: Top Central Banker warns of looming wave of worldwide bankruptcies
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/davos/12108569/World-faces-wave-of-epic-debt-defaults-fears-central-bank-veteran.html
The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11625406/The-world-is-drowning-in-debt-warns-Goldman-Sachs.html
A Nation of Broke People Are Killing Retail More Than Amazon: Top Expert
https://www.thestreet.com/story/14277483/1/a-nation-of-broke-people-are-killing-retail-more-than-amazon-peter-schiff-says.html
50 Percent of all Malls in America will be out of business in the next five years
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/22/mall-of-america-minnesota-retail-anniversary
Our Broken Economy, in One Simple Chart
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/07/opinion/leonhardt-income-inequality.html?smid=fb-share
US companies spent $4T buying back their own stock since 08
https://nypost.com/2017/08/19/us-companies-spent-4t-buying-back-their-own-stock/
Global economic growth has peaked, says World Bank
https://www.ft.com/content/4b9e6190-f55e-11e7-88f7-5465a6ce1a00
Global economy set for decade of gloom as World Bank predicts recovery will fizzle out
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/01/09/global-economy-set-decade-gloom-world-bank-predicts-recovery/
Perfect Storm: Energy, Finance and the End of Growth -Dr Tim Morgan Global Head of Research
https://www.tullettprebon.com/Documents/strategyinsights/TPSI_009_Perfect_Storm_009.pdf
Causes and Consequences of the Oil Shock of 2007-08 (Hamilton, 2009)
https://www.brookings.edu/bpea-articles/causes-and-consequences-of-the-oil-shock-of-2007-08/
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 12:52 am
‘WORSE THAN 2007’: Top Central Banker warns of looming wave of worldwide bankruptcies
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/davos/12108569/World-faces-wave-of-epic-debt-defaults-fears-central-bank-veteran.html
The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11625406/The-world-is-drowning-in-debt-warns-Goldman-Sachs.html
A Nation of Broke People Are Killing Retail More Than Amazon: Top Expert
https://www.thestreet.com/story/14277483/1/a-nation-of-broke-people-are-killing-retail-more-than-amazon-peter-schiff-says.html
50 Percent of all Malls in America will be out of business in the next five years
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/22/mall-of-america-minnesota-retail-anniversary
Our Broken Economy, in One Simple Chart
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/07/opinion/leonhardt-income-inequality.html?smid=fb-share
US companies spent $4T buying back their own stock since 08
https://nypost.com/2017/08/19/us-companies-spent-4t-buying-back-their-own-stock/
Global economic growth has peaked, says World Bank
https://www.ft.com/content/4b9e6190-f55e-11e7-88f7-5465a6ce1a00
Global economy set for decade of gloom as World Bank predicts recovery will fizzle out
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/01/09/global-economy-set-decade-gloom-world-bank-predicts-recovery/
Perfect Storm: Energy, Finance and the End of Growth -Dr Tim Morgan Global Head of Research
https://www.tullettprebon.com/Documents/strategyinsights/TPSI_009_Perfect_Storm_009.pdf
Mad Kat on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 4:09 am
MM, you give shit, not what is happening today in the world outside of your deluded fantasy. Do you ever consider what is propaganda, what is a sales pitch or even who pays for your “peer reviewed’ bullshit? No you swallow it whole as if it is from some god on high. I live in Asia. I know what is happening here first hand. You only have the filtered, propaganda from your Masters to go by. In case you haven’t noticed, they are anti-Asia because Asia is sinking the good ship USS Debt.
BTW: I do not read all of your rants, nor all of Davy’s. I know what you both are going to say and it is irrelevant bullshit. You are both zeros, living off of your families.
Davy on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 4:35 am
“Yes, they are all connected, but to different degrees. You and Davy don’t seem to understand perspectives. “Down” is relative, not absolute. The distance from the top of Mount Everest (~29,000′) is a lot farther than from Mount Snow (~3,600′) Which would you prefer to fall off of? You will lose almost everything. A typical Filipino will lose little, if anything. If you have nothing, there is nothing to lose.”
Nonsense, mad kat, as usual you confuse your binary agenda for a global world of multidimensional arrangements. The fall will be both within and from outside for all countries. Social arrangements and infrastructure will deteriorate differently both from within and globally. There are global networks but also the local forms of these networks. Power centers will hold longer than insignificant areas both within and from the outside. Maybe once a decline goes far enough then it will be locals with the best survival assets that will become dominant but by that time civilizational collapse will be nearly total. This is a process and the wealthy and powerful will always get the best until collapse has its egalitarian effects. Then we will all be naked together.
Nations like yours are not significant in the global power structure. The P’s will be left under the bus when push comes to shove. China will leave you to starve when it becomes food insecure. The US has complex prosperous elements yet the entire world has these same prosperous elements. Millionaires are on every continent. In fact mad kat, there are more in Asia than anywhere else hence more millionaires to go broke. All large, complex and affluent locations will suffer relatively more decline than those with less but to a point. Those who are most densely populated will suffer many more issues directly upon decline. Those areas like yours unimportant P’s will be left to themselves like the body does in hypothermia when the extremities are given less warmth. Mad kat, you are in the worst possible location. Natural disasters, Pacific typhoons, and an overpopulation overshoot ensure that your remaining days will be full of dangers. If you have nothing you will starve.
Davy on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 4:36 am
“BTW: A famous author described a PhD as “Piled higher and deeper”. I don’t think he was talking about IQ. LMAO”
says the drop out
Davy on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 4:46 am
“I live in Asia. I know what is happening here first hand. You only have the filtered, propaganda from your Masters to go by. In case you haven’t noticed, they are anti-Asia because Asia is sinking the good ship USS Debt. BTW: I do not read all of your rants, nor all of Davy’s. I know what you both are going to say and it is irrelevant bullshit. You are both zeros, living off of your families.”
Mad kat, you live in the western enclave of Makati, Manila, and the extent of your Asian travels is shopping in Hong Kong (once). Wow, that shows expertise and the hand on the heartbeat of Asia. What a joke. If what you have been saying now for 5 years and counting is true soon you will be living a destitute life on the Pacific side of Luzon a 2 hour drive from Manila. There you will face the worst of what Mother Nature has to throw at a land mass the Pacific typhoon. You have no future mad kat but come to think of it you are 75 with not much time anyway so this will be like a jungle nursing home. Good luck with the tropical diseases because 75 year olds are not going to take these illnesses well.
Simon on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 4:57 am
MK – As the brits said, don’t trust experts !!!
Davy on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 6:11 am
“Explosive”, “Shocking” And “Alarming” FISA Memo Set To Rock DC, “End Mueller Investigation”
https://tinyurl.com/y83cadur
“All hell is breaking loose in Washington D.C. tonight after a four-page memo detailing extensive FISA court abuse was made available to the entire House of Representatives Thursday. The contents of the memo are so explosive, says Journalist Sara Carter, that it could lead to the removal of senior officials in the FBI and the Department of Justice and the end of Robert Mueller’s special counsel investigation.”
“the memo details the Intelligence Committee’s oversight work for the FBI and Justice, including the controversy over unmasking and FISA surveillance.” An educated guess by anyone who’s been paying attention for the last year leads to the obvious conclusion that the report reveals extensive abuse of power and highly illegal collusion between the Obama administration, the FBI, the DOJ and the Clinton Campaign against Donald Trump and his team during and after the 2016 presidential election.”
“Lawmakers who have seen the memo are calling for its immediate release, while the phrases “explosive,” “shocking,” “troubling,” and “alarming” have all been used in all sincerity. One congressman even likened the report’s details to KGB activity in Russia.”
Mad Kat on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 6:25 am
Simon, I never have. They usually do turn out to be “drips under pressure”. ^_^
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 6:27 am
Davy
See all madkat can do is make up crazy conspiracies that make no sense…He is willfully ignorant..That means dumb on purpose. He reminds me of a trump voter, typical sine he was a construction worker.
Antius on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 11:22 am
Interesting article on ZeroHedge:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-19/measuring-equity-bubble-you-are-here
This development pretty much guarantees a significant rise in US interest rates and a decline in liquidity from 2018 onwards. That will burst the global equity bubble and will kill any rise in US tight oil production in its tracks:
“As we speak, bond yields are fighting to break multi-decades downtrend lines. The US Treasury yield at 2.61% is right at breakage point, according to bond royals Gundlach and Gross. Both 2-year Treasuries and 10-year US Breakeven Inflation rates are now comfortably above 2%, after rising relentlessly in the last few months (by respectively 70 and 40 basis points).”
GregT on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 11:52 am
“He reminds me of a trump voter, typical sine he was a construction worker.”
At least he knows how to spell.
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 11:58 am
Greg
Shouldnt you be in the woods collecting firewood? Bring it on! No light, heat, or motion!
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 12:37 pm
‘WORSE THAN 2007’: Top Central Banker warns of looming wave of worldwide bankruptcies
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/davos/12108569/World-faces-wave-of-epic-debt-defaults-fears-central-bank-veteran.html
The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11625406/The-world-is-drowning-in-debt-warns-Goldman-Sachs.html
A Nation of Broke People Are Killing Retail More Than Amazon: Top Expert
https://www.thestreet.com/story/14277483/1/a-nation-of-broke-people-are-killing-retail-more-than-amazon-peter-schiff-says.html
50 Percent of all Malls in America will be out of business in the next five years
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/22/mall-of-america-minnesota-retail-anniversary
Our Broken Economy, in One Simple Chart
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/07/opinion/leonhardt-income-inequality.html?smid=fb-share
US companies spent $4T buying back their own stock since 08
https://nypost.com/2017/08/19/us-companies-spent-4t-buying-back-their-own-stock/
Financial markets at risk from bubble, IMF warns
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/01/15/financial-markets-risk-bubble-imf-warns/
Global economy set for decade of gloom as World Bank predicts recovery will fizzle out
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/01/09/global-economy-set-decade-gloom-world-bank-predicts-recovery/
Perfect Storm: Energy, Finance and the End of Growth -Dr Tim Morgan Global Head of Research
https://www.tullettprebon.com/Documents/strategyinsights/TPSI_009_Perfect_Storm_009.pdf
GregT on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 1:08 pm
“Shouldnt you be in the woods collecting firewood?”
Shouldn’t you be gainfully employed at 30 years of age?
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 1:40 pm
Greg
I am employed I took a leave of absence for a year…I told you this before…If i am never going to get to enjoy my retirement later I figured I might as well take it now..
GregT on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 3:06 pm
“If i am never going to get to enjoy my retirement later I figured I might as well take it now..”
Then may I suggest “collecting firewood”? In can be quite an enjoyable way to idle away the time.
Boat on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 3:20 pm
Greggiet,
Thats your version of a life. I have cut and burned hundreds of loads of wood and it sucks. Mowed 6 acres for 8 years, it sucked. Planted many a large garden, it sucked. Now I see professional sports in person and that dosent suck. Not a doomer but lived that country life. It sucks.
MASTERMIND on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 4:04 pm
Greg
Why the hell would I collect firewood? I live in a small apartment outside a city? Hey if you think you can survive the Apocalypse and live like a hunter gather again..That is fine..But dont try to drag others into your paranoid delusional world.
Davy on Fri, 19th Jan 2018 4:35 pm
Firewood is part of my life. It offers me a way to produce resources off my land. It gets me into the woods and it is great exercise. It’s hard to put a price on a hot fire when you have a cold ass. My wife and kids appreciate a morning fire to wake up to. In my opinion wood heat is cool and a sign of character. How hard is it to work a thermostat and sit on the couch.