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Trader's Corner 2006

Discussions about the economic and financial ramifications of PEAK OIL

Where will the price of WTIC oil be on December 29, 2006?

Less than $50
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Around $55
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Around $60
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Around $65
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Around $70
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More than $80
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Fri 24 Mar 2006, 07:11:48

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Market comment

Gold: Continuing to drift lower yesterday morning, gold lost almost $5 from the European open to reach lows of 545 just after the New York open. Despite EUR also starting to sell of as USD strengthened on more positive data at this point, a rallying silver price dragged gold higher again back up to the opening levels just shy of 550. Mired mid range, the yellow metal is looking for inspiration to break out of the 545-55 range let alone the 535-75 range.

Silver: All news is good news it seems for silver as the ETF announcement
seems to keep on driving the price higher. Higher oil and base metals also
helped yesterday as silver gained almost 20c from a weaker start at 10.47 to close at 10.65. The upwards bias has continued this morning with 10.71 traded earlier today, continuing to set new 22 year highs. Some resistance might be expected here, and any news regarding the listing or start of trading of the ETF is also expected to have an impact on the price.

Platinum: News that Japan has decided to include platinum in its rare metals reserves for the first time seems to have had little impact on the prices so far. With attention firmly fixed on silver, platinum managed only minor gains yesterday, keeping to a narrow range around 1,040. Failure to take out resistance around here and look higher towards 1,060 in the nearer term may signal further consolidation to come.

Palladium: Losing a little ground, palladium dipped briefly below 315, but
recovered some of the move before the close. Overnight the metal was
supported by weaker JPY sending the domestic price higher and the metal
has moved higher again in Europe this morning. Next upside target on further demand might be 335 highs from 2004.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Fri 24 Mar 2006, 11:13:42

After turning briefly down on the hourly this morning, all models have switched back to long going into the afternoon session. Therefore, given it is Friday, expect to see some follow through buying in the NY time zone. Likely a strong close to the week, which will coincidentally put crude in the near months into over bought territory. It's all about geopolitical concerns this week, oversupply be darned. Will keep the longer term rally expanding as refineries take scheduled maintenance ahead of the summer driving season and the switch over to low sulfur diesel and ethanol instead of MTBE. At least that is the word heard on the floor. Not a good week for me. My models were right, but the market chopped me out of some core positions too early. Oh well, that's show biz.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')il Trades Near a Six-Week High as U.S. Gasoline Demand Rises
March 24 (Bloomberg) -- Oil traded near a six-week high in New York on concern rising demand for gasoline and extended refinery maintenance in the U.S. may erode supplies before the summer driving season.

Gasoline demand the past four weeks is up 1.6 percent from a year earlier, the U.S. Energy Department said March 22. U.S. refineries are undergoing an extended maintenance period in order to produce gasoline by May that can be blended with ethanol, rather than another fuel additive that has polluted groundwater

Oil Trades Near a Six-Week High


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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Mon 27 Mar 2006, 07:04:32

Sorry, I really have not adequately sized up the markets yet today. A bit slow outta the box.

What I do see is a strong close on Friday, which keeps the daily and weekly charts in positive territory and the bull rally intact. This is presumably on the back of the Nigerian supply disruptions and concerns over Iran, although as background noise we have jokers like Chavez promising to shoot arrows at invading US soldiers. However, the market did open up weaker on the hourly and short term indicators, assumedly on relief that nothing blew-up over the weekend and on the back of higher than normal crude oil supplies in the US market. The same dynamic as for the past 4-6 weeks.

My feeling is also lower here, but I have been chopped up by wild two sided trading in NY last week, so am leary of selling near the bottom on the daily range in expectation of follow through weakness. That just has not been the right way to play this market as of late. Never the less a break of $6280 in the Brent or $63.50 in the WTI should open the way for fifty cents lower ahead of the afternoon session. Then we will have to see which way NY favors it this week.

The funds should be keying off those strong closes and looking to add fuel to their long bonfire. However, a decisive break of $64-65 is indeed needed to keep this rally alive or risk slipping back into a well-worn range.

Here are the metals compliments of DRKW.
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Gold: Friday’s trading finally broke above the recent resistance in the mid
550s and reached a high of 560.50 just before the close. Gaining just over
$10 from opening levels, gold however remains within the broader 535-75
range and likely needs to breach 570 in order to reopen the possibility of new highs. Combined non-commercial net-length rose in the week to 21Mar06 by 500koz to 13.6mmoz, still below the highs, although net length may have increased again with the week’s end trading and price rally.

Silver: Trending upwards at a steadier rate, silver also ended the day higher on Friday. Strength coming from the anticipation of the listing of the silver ETF continued despite the increasingly overbought nature of the daily, weekly and monthly charts, albeit at a slower pace. Borrowing of silver was also notable again. Opening at 10.68, silver reached a new high of 10.72 on the close, but resistance there limited Friday’s gains. Further buying overnight in Asia and this morning have pushed silver towards 10.90, with further upside apparently likely at least until the timeframe for the ETF launch becomes clearer.

Platinum: Following silver and then gold higher, platinum still kept to a fairly narrow range between 1,040 and 1,045. Better progress was made overnight with Japan again on the buy side and lifting the price to 1,054. The key level on the upside appears to be 1,060 – the March highs – with a break here reopening the potential for 1,080 and the

Palladium: Holding above the 10dMA, palladium springboarded higher on the back of silver’s gains and perhaps also on the news from Russia concerning higher expected internal demand (following on from lower expected production statements from Norilsk earlier in the year). Speculative interest in the afternoon lifted prices from 316 towards 330, finally closing at 328.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby Typhoon » Mon 27 Mar 2006, 16:24:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'N')ot a good week for me. My models were right, but the market chopped me out of some core positions too early. Oh well, that's show biz.


I can understand that you would not want to reveal the details about your models, but can you describe in general how they work? Are they based on technical indicators that you have backtested? I've thought of trying to develop a trading system based on exponential moving average crossovers, but for every time you catch a nice trend there are several times where you get whipsawed in and out of a position. Perhaps it would work better to use MAs in combination with the RSI? (RSI below 30 in an uptrend would be a long signal, and RSI above 70 in a downtrend would be a short signal.)

Then again, maybe I'm foolish to think that such a simple concept could work. It seems like successful trading systems must be sophisticated, or everyone would create them. However, if you add too many parameters and endlessly tweak them, you risk over-optimizing a system to fit past data.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby joewp » Mon 27 Mar 2006, 22:44:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Typhoon', '
')Then again, maybe I'm foolish to think that such a simple concept could work. It seems like successful trading systems must be sophisticated, or everyone would create them.


The simpler the better. You want your indicators clear and easy to follow. The biggest problems most people have is not sticking to their systems and holding losers too long. Discipline and risk-management are key.

I've seen Mr. Bill chastise himself in this thread for not sticking to his system and I've certainly gone on "intuition" many times too often. :oops:
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Tue 28 Mar 2006, 04:31:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Typhoon', '
')Then again, maybe I'm foolish to think that such a simple concept could work. It seems like successful trading systems must be sophisticated, or everyone would create them.


The simpler the better. You want your indicators clear and easy to follow. The biggest problems most people have is not sticking to their systems and holding losers too long. Discipline and risk-management are key.

I've seen Mr. Bill chastise himself in this thread for not sticking to his system and I've certainly gone on "intuition" many times too often. :oops:



Part of my problem was getting my brokerage arrangement set-up properly, so that I could get in and out of positions rapidly. Going through my broker was too time intensive and by that time I was usually chasing a moving market. Now with my electronic platform I have more control and therefore more confidence to trade larger amounts. However, now that I have larger positions, I have to be on top of the market all the time. That means monitoring my positions from home in the evenings.

My system is quite straight forward. A series of moving averages. I prefer 13 & 21 day/period averages because those are fibonacci numbers, they seem to fit the data and I know others watch them as well. Basically, I apply my moving average to the weekly, daily and hourly candle charts. I just prefer candle charts to bar charts as they give you more information. They do not affect the moving averages.

I divided my position into 4 sub-components. Long term/weekly, medium term/daily, short term/hourly, and a speculative component which gives me flexibility to trade during the day before my model would have time to cross over or change directions. Spikes can occur.

I have a matrix. Brent, gasoil, WTI, heating oil, unleaded/RBOB and natural gas. So 4 positions x 6 contracts x long/short/neutral = 72 possible position combinations. I just tally them up (I love Excel) and it tells me net/net whether I should be long, short or neutral. The discipline comes from sticking to the entry & exit points and, of course, keeping various long/short positions separate. For example, you do not want your short-term short position to take you out of a long-term long position and then miss a nice rally because you got chopped out in a sideways correction.

I use trading enveloped based on 2 standard deviations from the 21-day mean to tell me if a market is overbought or oversold. I may use that to close an existing position in profit, but not use it to initiate a new contra-position. If I feel strongly about it being overbought or oversold, then I would buy out of the money options instead. Why? A market may look overbought or oversold several days before it actually turns. On the day it turns you may have an exaggerated move up or down. It is very hard to trade unless you sit in the pit on the NYMEX and see good order flow. For mere mortals that kind of market timing is hit or miss. An options position allows you to get in ahead of time so when it turns you have an underlying position in place. By the way, your 30/70 RSIs will give you the same information as the trading envelopes. I like them, but I can only find them on Bloomberg, not on Reuters or anywhere else, whereas RSI's can be found on most technical software.

I think you have to be aware of fundamental developments otherwise you're just flying on instruments with no idea there is a mountain in front of you. Theoretically, all the information should be in the price, but sometimes headline driven events just trump the techs and away you go without any warning. By the time I realized what was happening in unleaded due to the switchover to RBOB the market was down a dime. After having lost 10 cents I was happy to get out flat. Having got out flat, I missed one heck of a rally in the unleaed. Tough luck for me. But you need some sort of risk/reward profile whatever it is. I cannot take huge risks for small profits. Therefore, I have to pass on large potential profits if I am not prepared to weather the troughs. Unleaded is obviously an insider's market. The guys who control the pipes have the inside track and the rest of us are just their cannon fodder. When BP makes $2 billion trading futures and cash products, they made it from someone.

Here is a summary. I will post the spreadsheet if someone will tell me how?

......................Brent...Gasoil.....WTI......Heating.....Unleaded....Nat Gas
Weekly..........+10.0...+10.0....+10.0......+10.0......+10.0........-10.0
Daily...............+5.0.....+5.0......+5.0.......+5.0........+5.0..........-5.0
Hourly..............-5.0...+10.0.......-5.0.......-10.0.........-5.0........-10.0
Speculative......+5.0...+10.0......+5.0........-5.0.........+5.0.........-5.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Totals.............+15.0...+35.0....+15.0.........0.0.......+15.0........-30.0
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Total 50/240 = +21% (+33% ignoring nat gas which is off trading on its own for the time being). So the model still has a long bias but we are entering overbought territory in the crude (time to buy OTM puts). However the products still have some upwards potential and politics will likely trump technical signals, and some funds would dearly love to see the whole complex higher ahead of the end of March when they must report their Q1'06 trading profits to attract fresh money for Q2'06!
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Tue 28 Mar 2006, 10:18:39

According to a Turkish newspaper called Vatan, Germany's Angela Merckel told Turksih PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan that "the US was planning a military strike on Iran if that nation fails to prove that its nuclear program is intended for peaceful purposes only." These comments have been reprinted on Bloomberg and are no doubt partially responsible for the rally today.

It goes on further to say that Merckel urged Erdogan "to persuade Iran's political leaders that the threat of US military action is a very serious one". Germany and other EU governments have called upon Tehran to halt is enrichment activities, but top German officials deny that the military option is on the table.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not about to back down internationally. He is enjoying support at home with "comments heavy on promises to create jobs and wipe out corruption, and spiced with nationalistic fervor" and has promised "not to back down on iota" over Iran's right to nuclear technology. "Many Iranians link nuclear achievement to national pride" despite high unemployment and struggling to make ends meet for many workers in the world's 4th largest oil exporter.

Bush/Cheney + Chavez + President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad + Nigeria = $70 per barrel oil despite rising US inventories. But first we need to clear resistance above $65 in the short term.

Not to mention those Funds looking to report good end of the quarter results and a possible labor strike in Norway over pay, foreign workers and early retirement.. What is that? Please let us retire early on generous terms, but do not give our jobs to lower paid foreigners? ; - )
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Wed 29 Mar 2006, 08:38:34

The daily & weekly charts and their moving averages are still pointing north, but we are now in overbought territory in the crude, so follow through buying will have to come via the products and assumably a larger than expected draw in unleaded and distillate inventories today to keep this rally alive ahead of the end of the quarter.

Many fund managers must be crossing their fingers and hoping for a few dollars higher this week ahead of fresh money in the second quarter.

The short term technicals were pointing a little lower, but that is mainly because Europe lacks the conviction or the courage to take it higher on their own and will wait instead for some moral support from the States. Maybe some slight position squaring ahead of the DOE inventory numbers this afternoon.

The numbers are forecast as follows:

Crude f/c +1.0 +3.0 mio bbls
Distillates f/c -2.0 -1.3 mio bbls
Gasoline f/c -1.8 -1.3 mio bbls
Refinery runs f/c +.03% +0.4% to 86.7%
tomorrow's
Nat Gas f/c -95 -65 bcf


Daily news compliments of PVM $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') A whole host of supply concerns came together yesterday, which pushed the market through technical resistance and brought in another tranche of buying. WTI ended the day $1.91bbl higher, Brent gained $1.36bbl, Heat 4.7cts/gal and Unleaded 5.6cts/gal. We had anticipated that the breakout would have a major headline as its catalyst but instead it appeared to be an amalgam of minor headlines that all pointed in the direction of supply disruptions or disappointments and increased demand pressures.

In no particular order of importance the elements are:-
- Although there is talk that Shell’s EA offshore field will resume production soon the Nigerian Oil Minister was reported to have said that he did not anticipate Delta region production to resume soon. The fact that President Obasanjo has called for a meeting with the militants on April 5th reflects the seriousness of the situation and its potential longevity. When the US refining system returns from its period of heavy maintenance any lost Nigerian sweet barrels will be much more badly missed than they are now.
- The Iraqi Oil Minister admitted yesterday that there would be no exports from Northern Iraq via Ceyhan for at least 8 months. He described the pipeline manifold damage from sabotage as so extensive that it would require a major effort to get it back into operation.
- Yesterday’s strikes in France impacted on Total’s refinery operations with half of its six refineries disrupted to some extent. More strikes are expected.
- Norwegian strike season will soon be upon us and initial reports are that it will not pass off peacefully.
- Ethanol supply worries mount and the US Energy Secretary says that he knows of no plans for deferments or waivers.
- On the demand side large flows of new fund money are anticipated for 2Q. There is suspicion that some of yesterday’s buying was in anticipation of this.
- Iran tensions could move from simmering to bubbling if the 5 UN veto holding powers fail to agree a resolution wording this week in Berlin.
- The hurricane season is expected to be at least as bad as last year and is officially only 9 weeks off.
- Yesterday’s US interest rate hike, with more to come, could increase the flow of speculative money from equities to commodities. The final expectation for today’s US oil stock figures is for an 800,000bbl crude build, a 1.4 million bbl distillate draw and a 1.3 million bbl gasoline draw. Gasoline is the ultra-sensitive contract at the moment. If crude draws again rather builds, as happened last week, and the gasoline draw exceeds expectations, yesterday’s move to a new price range is likely to be confirmed.

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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Thu 30 Mar 2006, 08:59:51

Iran says will not suspend uranium enrichment. The standoff continues. The price of crude continues to trend higher lead by unleaded gasoline which has trade up to $1.9650 today. Been a one way market this week so far.

Here are some comments from Goldman Sachs.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')fter bumbling along in the red for the most past of the day after yesterday's impressive rally, the market looked for direction from the weekly crude stats, which pointed in both directions with a bearish crude number (bigger build of 2.1mbls vs est 950kbls driven by a much-mooted rebound in imports of 769kbpd after two weeks of 814kbpd decreases on aggregate), but bullish gasoline (5.34mbl draw vs est 1.45mbl draw) and distillate (2.5mbl draw vs est 1.25mbl draw) numbers.

After an initial product-induced pop higher May WTI slid back down towards but not quite hitting the earlier lows of 65.58, as the market digested the highest level of US stocks since April 1999. It then seemed to catch a bid as products, notably gasoline, held court, with April gasoline closing up over 3% and just off the $1.96 highs.

The fate of spreads was somewhat sealed with the return of the 10mbpd+ weekly import number (10.1mbpd - notably Atlantic Coast PADDI and Gulf Coast III - taking the 4 week average to 9.9mbpd, still 170kbpd below last year) with May/June 17c weaker settling 1.02 contango and while refinery runs continued to tick up, the 85kbpd increase to 14.7mbpd, was not enough to mitigate the larger than expected build.

The FT this morning cracks a nod to the contango issue and what it means for index roll yields. Not a new topic. Back to the gasoline market, it was the biggest drop in gasoline stocks since August 2003 against a backdrop of solid gasoline demand (up 1.3% yoy), despite increased production and robust imports (once again over 1mbpd - the 8th week in a row) that stood out and lead the way higher into the close.

However, while the fundamentals look solid, there is arguably a fair amount of that good news priced in. With spec changes imminent, and as such RFG becoming persona non grata and only fit for export, as well as turnarounds coming to an end by the end of the next month, there is the belief that with April gasoline off the board (as of Friday) the current willingness to add to length should dwindle. RFG cracks in Q2 above $12 look a sale and indeed there was evidence throughout the day of steady gasoline crack selling from Q206-Q107.

At the end of the day, May WTI closed off the 66.65 highs, but still closed on a relative high note up 38c at 66.45. Next resistance at 66.62 - the continuation high on the 6th Feb. Nat gas was the laggard yesterday, with April expiring yesterday up 26bps amid a mixed cash market and loosely following the products with focus today on stats at 16.30BST with consensus looking for a draw of 85bcf (GS auction 97bcf).

Trading down to 66.05 this morning May WTI has rebounded, currently up 17c at $66.62/bl Still looks like you got the love to see you through until month and quarter end....(but will next week be the week to throw your hands - and longs - up in the air?...)



Crude now solidly in overbought territory. Think that this Friday when April unleaded and heating oil expire and the end of quarter comes to pass that this rally will also retreat on bearish fundamentals. It has been a fun ride, but now it time for a pause. Bought some out of the money July puts in the WTI. I think that if there is any weakness, I should be able to see some downward movement in the US crude first of all, although I would not bet against unleaded leading the way despite its strength at the moment?
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby Typhoon » Thu 30 Mar 2006, 13:09:42

I am starting a trading journal, but I felt that I shouldn't post all of my trades here. You can find my journal in this thread. I am currently short at the moment. I am bullish for the medium-term, though, so I might reverse and go long.

For the long-term, I just don't know! There are so many catalysts which could drive oil and the products higher, but the fundamentals are bearish in my opinion, unless we start to see evidence of peak oil. On the other hand, I'm definitely bullish on natural gas since domestic supply will be tight enough that we could see a big spike, perhaps to $20 or more, if the 2006-07 winter turns out to be cold. I'm optimistic about LNG in the future but I'm not sure how quickly LNG capacity can be expanded.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Fri 31 Mar 2006, 05:27:47

Metals comments compliments of DRKW.
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Gold: With week end, month end, and quarter end today, gold showed no
signs of giving back any gains yesterday. Opening at 574.50 around the prior Jan06 highs, gold moved up to 580 before finding some resistance, but did not pause there long. Further speculative buying in New York hours lifted the market over this hurdle and closed on the highs at 586.75. Reaching 588.50 overnight, gold has not so far this morning made a further move towards 600.

Silver: Silver also closed on the highs with a 50c gain from 11.20 in the
morning to 11.70 on the close as buying accelerated. Reports of a comment from an Amex official claiming that the silver ETF could begin trading as early as next week have not been confirmed by Barclays, but this could increase the risk in silver of a high close today and a profit taking driven move lower next week. Given silver’s volatility, a drop of $1 or more if liquidation gains momentum cannot be ruled out. Highs this morning were 11.90 at the time of writing.

Platinum: Positioned between the precious metals and the industrial metals
and with gains in gold, silver, and in base metals, we should not be overly
surprised that platinum has posted new all time highs. Trending higher
throughout the day, platinum did not break the 1,084 former all time high until after the New York open and volumes remain speculatively driven. Also closing on the highs at 1,088, platinum has overnight traded 1,093 but eased back in line with silver.

Palladium: Reaching 345 by the London morning fix, palladium held steady
for the rest of the afternoon between 340 and 345, perhaps still looking at
supply side stories from Russia. After 2000/01 it will take much greater
substitution and demand to being back all time highs for palladium, but the
price remains firm above the highs seen since the retracement from the lofty 1,100 highs.



Basically, a strong close yesterday as the crude and the products made new recent highs ahead of April expiry of the products today and the end of the quarter buying from funds to protect their gains and prepare for fresh money entering their funds in the second quarter. Do not see any reason for us to trade lower today. Each time I stick in a bid it seems to push the market higher, so even small amounts are discouraging the sellers from aggressively pushing the market lower. The path of least resistance is still therefore to the topside.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby smiley » Fri 31 Mar 2006, 16:05:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here are so many catalysts which could drive oil and the products higher, but the fundamentals are bearish in my opinion,


I would agree that the oil prices are very high, but oil is not the only thing which has rallied in recent weeks. The same has happened to silver, gold, molly, nickel, copper etc. etc. The base metal index rallied 10% this month.

Wouldn't it be easier to assume that it is the dollar which is currently overvalued?
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby Typhoon » Fri 31 Mar 2006, 18:48:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here are so many catalysts which could drive oil and the products higher, but the fundamentals are bearish in my opinion,


I would agree that the oil prices are very high, but oil is not the only thing which has rallied in recent weeks. The same has happened to silver, gold, molly, nickel, copper etc. etc. The base metal index rallied 10% this month.

Wouldn't it be easier to assume that it is the dollar which is currently overvalued?


I actually am quite worried about the possibility of peak oil; I'm just not ready to accept that it will happen soon for sure. When I say that the fundamentals are bearish, I'm just referring to the fact that the market currently seems well supplied, despite persistent strong demand. U.S. crude inventories, at 340.7 mmbbl are 8.2 percent above normal. U.S. gasoline inventories, at 216.2 mmbbl, are in line with where they were last year.

However, these fundamentals can easily change. We may already be seeing it with the large gasoline draws, although they might be largely due to refinery maintenance. The market cares about potential threats in the future. Geopolitical worries are certainly valid, as are worries about the upcoming hurricane season.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby Typhoon » Fri 31 Mar 2006, 18:54:17

I could certainly be wrong, but I feel that today's pullback means that we are no longer overbought, and are ready to move higher.

I'd also like to make a comment about the notion that the price of oil is a bubble that is about to burst. I'd argue against this notion for another reason than just the possibility of peak oil. Commitments of Traders reports usually show that speculators are net short. If it was a speculative bubble, they'd be net long. I really think that the price does reflect supply and demand accurately. If the price really will move down in the future, it will take bearish fundamentals for that to happen. There is no "bubble" that will "pop" on its own.

Like I emphasized in my last post, I only said that the fundamentals seem bearish at the moment. My long-term bias is actually bullish.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Sat 01 Apr 2006, 02:57:44

Strong close yesterday in the crude. We were sub-$66 in the WTI up to about 30 mins before the close and then they brought in the big cannons. Took it up to $66.80 in no time. Settled around $66.60 which a strong close compared to where we opened on Monday, but shy of the overnight high so a negative on the daily charts. Whether we go higher will depend on fund buying on Monday. Do they have fresh cash to throw at this rally?

When commentators say the market is high due to fund buying what do they mean?

Basically, as the fund accumulates a long it is net demand, but unless the fund waits until maturity and then takes delivery of the physical product then net-net that long is unwound at the end of each month. As the market has been in contango that means the nearby month is expiring each time at a discount to the next month. This means that all those long only funds and indices are booking a loss every month as they roll their positions forward.

Net-net the funds can only maintain the rally in oil, gold, silver, etc. if there is constantly new money flowing into new long positions, or as I said, they are taking delivery at maturity and forcing the shorts to cover. In my mind this is a pyramid scheme. Let us see how it ends?

Unleaded finally was in backwardation so I assume those funds were able to roll their longs at a premium this month, so long as they executed them early enough. I think at one point about an hour before the close the unleaded was still in deep negative territory on the day. This smells to me like an engineered strong close for quarter's end? About 10 mins before the settle, someone stuck an order in to sell 420 contracts of WTI on the IPE, the market dipped, and then they pulled their order. That by the way is illegal, it is called market manipulation. But in a fast market hard to say who did what for what purpose? Still buyer beware....

Have a nice weekend. Cheers.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby drew » Sun 02 Apr 2006, 10:12:14

Maybe I'm being lazy, and maybe not. Where do you guys get your data MrBill? I look at Kitco for my metals, and nymex for oil and gas. I have spent a little time looking at futures on the nymex, and don't beleive I am looking at realtime data, although I'm not sure. Are a lot of the sites you use pay? Just curious, I went to ICE, and it seems to be pay so I gave up.

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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Sun 02 Apr 2006, 10:58:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here are so many catalysts which could drive oil and the products higher, but the fundamentals are bearish in my opinion,


I would agree that the oil prices are very high, but oil is not the only thing which has rallied in recent weeks. The same has happened to silver, gold, molly, nickel, copper etc. etc. The base metal index rallied 10% this month.

Wouldn't it be easier to assume that it is the dollar which is currently overvalued?



Yoy might make the argument that the dollar is overvalued. However, according to these COTS charts, the dollar weighted index is not over or undervalued and the positions between large investors, small investors and corporates is about as balanced as you could wish for. That means no one is betting one way or another? Also, this is not justisfication, but the commodity indices in total represent about $80 billion, while the foreign exchange market is a trillion dollar a day industry. Certainly, many people are not just passively interested in the value of the dollar, so they would be or should be constantly evaluating these variables as well. So given the balance of the dollar, it is seems to be fairly valued at the moment. However, we will have to see what happens when the Fed stops raising rates?

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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby SeattleGuy » Sun 02 Apr 2006, 15:24:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', 'W')here do you guys get your data MrBill? I look at Kitco for my metals, and nymex for oil and gas. I have spent a little time looking at futures on the nymex, and don't beleive I am looking at realtime data, although I'm not sure. Are a lot of the sites you use pay? Just curious, I went to ICE, and it seems to be pay so I gave up.


Drew, there are several sites where you can find price data for commodity futures. One such site is:
http://www.cannontrading.com/traders/qu ... charts.php

However, I am not aware of any free sites that publish data that is not delayed by a matter of hours. To get real-time price data, I think you have to subscribe to one of the specialty data services or to a trading platform that lets you trade in futures.

But, Drew, unless you are actually trading futures contracts, why would you need data that is up-to-the-minute? And if you are trading in futures, your broker probably has a trading platform they can make available to you.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Mon 03 Apr 2006, 03:17:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', 'M')aybe I'm being lazy, and maybe not. Where do you guys get your data MrBill? I look at Kitco for my metals, and nymex for oil and gas. I have spent a little time looking at futures on the nymex, and don't beleive I am looking at realtime data, although I'm not sure. Are a lot of the sites you use pay? Just curious, I went to ICE, and it seems to be pay so I gave up.

Thanks

Drew


Hello Drew, here is a list of some of the pages that I visit often enough to have stored in my preferences. Not all commodity related, but all to do with markets, so worth keeping an eye on. Most are free. If I see any other good commodity pages, will keep you in mind. I also get some brokerage reports sporadically, which usually do a good job of covering where we have been. However, if you read www.reuters.com and www.bloomberg.com you get many of the same stories and news. Also www.marketwatch.com is a great source of free news and I am surprised how quickly they keep themselves up to date with numbers as they come out. Eventually, you end up with parallysis from information overload. So you need to filter it out. As for live data, yes, I pay for Reuters and Bloomberg, which are not cheap, and I do get live data for those markets that I trade through my electronic brokerage platform, so I can trade from home. It is not perfect, but try to make do with what I can get. Good luck with week. Cheers.
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http://jameshowardkunstler.typepad.com/ ... ck_nation/
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http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub/contents.html
http://www.energybulletin.net/9314.html
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http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/mer/contents.html
http://english.eastday.com/eastday/engl ... index.html
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http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/H41/Current/
http://www.fastcompany.com/homepage/index.html
http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/diesel_CF.cfm?state=ALL
http://www.freecotcharts.com/charts.htm
http://news.ft.com/home/europe
http://www.countrywatch.com/includes/gr ... ricppp.asp
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harva ... ives.jhtml
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petr ... t/wpsr.txt
http://www.ustreas.gov/tic/mfh.txt
http://www.valeator.com/
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http://today.reuters.com/news/home.aspx
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=27186
http://www.sciencedirect.com
http://www.theipe.com/
http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/
http://www.nasdaq.com/
http://www.nytimes.com/
http://www.theonion.com/content/
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxfreedomday/
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/indexes/01.html
http://www.treasury.gov/press/releases/js3019.htm
http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/refineries.htm
http://www.eppo.go.th/ref/UNIT-OIL.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
http://www.weather.com/newscenter/tropical/
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/ngs/ngs.html
http://www.energybulletin.net/7149.html
http://www.worldenergysource.com
http://online.wsj.com/public/us
http://www.platts.com/Oil/Resources/Ris ... swaps.html
https://portal.gs.com/gs/portal/products/commodities/
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/globalm ... iteid=mktw


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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby smiley » Mon 03 Apr 2006, 13:26:29

hello Drew, you might also want to watch the middle east economic survey
and rigzone.

www.mees.com
www.rigzone.com

www.arabnews.com also carries interesting oil stories from an arab perspective.
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