[Cashmere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vetusfirma', 'C')an you people get off your political issues and think about exactly what is happening. If we lose, in any sense, you and all those around you will suffer. This is not about the next election. If you can't get beyond that you will continue to force attention on the wrong areas. If you want war with Iran, then you should side with the twits in Iraq, who are probably in league with their shiite masters in Iran and the Grand Ayatollah.
Even the French are worried about Iran now.
And by the way, what god said we need anybodies permission to 'stay'. All we need the for it to be in the best interest of the American People.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'I') love the way you ended with "American People" in quotes. Is that because you feel pride at being one of the people, or because the people are typically so disturbingly fat that you couldn't stuff a lower case A and P at the beginning of the words?

[allenwrench]

Exit date?
Why do they want to leave? They are just getting started setting up office there?
War stinks. But we are in a new era of human life.
We will see much more turmoil in the near future than just the few killings that have come our of our current war effort.

We will be at war over crude until the last buckets have been sucked from the earth...so get used to it.
As we would leave the Middle East...China or Russia would step in.
See: link

[gmin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('allenwrench', 'A')s we would leave the Middle East...China or Russia would step in.

[RedStateGreen]

This is rich.

Of course they won't give an exit date. They never planned on leaving.

[Micki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]US general sees Iraq forces stood up by mid-2009

combat troops will be almost fully formed by the middle of 2009, according to the senior U.S. Army officer who led the training of Iraqi security forces.

But Iraqi troops will still need some U.S. support, Lt. Gen. James Dubik told Reuters in an e-mail.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', 'T')his is rich. Of course they won't give an exit date. They never planned on leaving.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '
')"We're building 810 schools; 4,800 water and sewage projects; 1,047 roads and bridges," said Franken in his TV ad. "No, not in America. In Iraq."

[Taghayee]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '
')"We're building 810 schools; 4,800 water and sewage projects; 1,047 roads and bridges," said Franken in his TV ad. "No, not in America. In Iraq."

[gmin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '
')"We're building 810 schools; 4,800 water and sewage projects; 1,047 roads and bridges," said Franken in his TV ad. "No, not in America. In Iraq."

[Fiddlerdave]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vetusfirma', 'A')nd by the way, what god said we need anybodies permission to 'stay'. All we need the for it to be in the best interest of the American People.

[Kingcoal]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '
')"We're building 810 schools; 4,800 water and sewage projects; 1,047 roads and bridges," said Franken in his TV ad. "No, not in America. In Iraq."

[vilemerchant]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '
')"We're building 810 schools; 4,800 water and sewage projects; 1,047 roads and bridges," said Franken in his TV ad. "No, not in America. In Iraq."

[eXpat]

The dirty laundry is starting to surface, all that was denied before:
In video, Leahy tells of shooting Iraqi detainees
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'V')ILSECK, Germany — A videotape played Thursday in the trial of a U.S. soldier shows him describing how he shot two of four bound and blindfolded Iraqi prisoners in March 2007.

Sgt. Michael Leahy Jr., 26, was videotaped talking with Army investigators last year. A pre-trial motion by Leahy’s attorneys to suppress the video failed.

The video showed Leahy confessing an hour and 10 minutes into an interview with a Criminal Investigation Command special agent in Schweinfurt, Germany.

"I shot one of them," Leahy told the agent. "I shot two shots," he said, pointing his hand like a pistol.

"It was my decision. I always knew this ... would come back to me," he said.

The prisoners’ bodies were dumped in a Baghdad canal.
...
"I shot the other guy," Leahy said. "The other guy was right in front of me and I shot him. I don’t think it actually killed him, although it would have later on."

The second man Leahy shot lay on the ground gurgling until Hatley finished him off with a shot in the chest, Leahy said.

Asked to describe, in detail, how he shot the detainees, Leahy said he placed his pistol six inches to a foot from one of the detainees’ heads and fired.

"I saw the detainee to the right of me flinch and turn after he heard the shots and my weapon was pointed at him, anywhere from a foot to a couple of inches away. I pulled the trigger and it hit him. I’m pretty sure it was the side of the face but it could have been a little further back," he said.
...
Later in the video Leahy described a Jan. 3, 2007, incident in which Hatley shot a wounded detainee. The detainee was shot in the leg and captured after triggering a roadside bomb that damaged a Bradley Fighting Vehicle.

The badly wounded Iraqi was placed in another Bradley for transport to an Army hospital. On the way Hatley twice stopped the patrol to ask Leahy about the man’s condition, he said.

"He had lost a lot of blood. I told the first sergeant: ‘This guy isn’t going to make it.’ He was close to bleeding out at the time," Leahy told the CID agent.

Hatley then dragged the Iraqi out of the Bradley and shot him twice in the chest with a 9 mm pistol, Leahy said. The pair put the corpse in a body bag and the patrol dropped it off at an Iraqi Police station, he said.

[Buggy]

The thought occured to me that if we pulled our troops out our economy would collapse the rest of the way. Obama knows that. Our troops are not coming home. We are sacrificing our young men and women so the Plutocrats can dine another day.

[pablonite]

Maybe "home" will be their next deployment and financed from China? Nothing makes money like war except economic depressions.

[copious.abundance]

Just when you thought you'd already seen the dumbest threads, along comes an even dumber one . . .

Why the hell would the economy collapse if the troops came home? By that logic the economy would have collapsed when the troops from the Balkans came home, when the troops from Iraq #1 came home, when the troops from Vietnam came home, when the troops from Korea came home . . . etc. Heck, by this logic we would never have let the Revolutionary War end for fear of the economy collapsing!

[mcgowanjm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')y that logic the economy would have collapsed when the troops from the Balkans came home, when the troops from Iraq #1 came home, when the troops from Vietnam came home, when the troops from Korea came home . . . etc. Heck, by this logic we would never have let the Revolutionary War end for fear of the economy collapsing!

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')y that logic the economy would have collapsed when the troops from the Balkans came home, when the troops from Iraq #1 came home, when the troops from Vietnam came home, when the troops from Korea came home . . . etc. Heck, by this logic we would never have let the Revolutionary War end for fear of the economy collapsing!

[mcgowanjm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Years of scarcity for Iraq and Afghanistan, not the US for that reason. And for brambles and thorns to grow in Iraq is less certain with the Turks starting to turn off the flow of the Tigris and Euphrates.