[scas]

haha Pret - you remind me of the fella that keeps harassing Al Gore - "Isn't it true that polar bear numbers are on the increase" (therefore climate change isn't real)


So what if we nearly extincted them in the mid 1900s? Natural selection right?

[dohboi]

A (pre-)historical note. In the midst of previous extinctions, great blooms of algae and fungi were not unusual. Extinctions are (temporarily) boom times for organisms that thrive on death.

Better get out those mushroom recipes.

[Subjectivist]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WemanmrAYv ... e=m-ch-fea

Excellent video interview of Leirre Kieth, author of The Vegetarian Myth.

[Tanada]

Speaking of polyculture when I was growing up we raised 50 chickens plus assorted other poultry (a few ducks, geese and turkeys) on a single acre of land feeding them mostly kitchen scraps and grass clippings from the yard, plus whatever bugs they could catch. In return we got about two dozen eggs a day and we had fried or roasted bird a couple times a week. In comparison the beef we raised on the 30 acre pasture were individually a lot more meat each, but I think in absolute terms we were further ahead with the poultry in terms of meat production per acre.

If everyone in Suburbia fenced their own yard and put a dozen hens in it instead of constantly mowing it the egg input into their diets would give them a lot of 'free' calories and they would not have to maintain/lubricate/fuel a lawnmower to boot. Add two roosters and let them set for a month each spring and you have a renewable food supply because you can do away with some of the older birds as the chicks grow each year. It really isn't rocket science. We just have a very screwed up culture where people think they need a huge yard to maintain. IIRC the Department of Agriculture recognizes lawn grass as the largest crop grown in America based on acreage.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'h')ttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WemanmrAYvg&feature=m-ch-fea

Excellent video interview of Leirre Kieth, author of The Vegetarian Myth.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'h')ttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WemanmrAYvg&feature=m-ch-fea

Excellent video interview of Leirre Kieth, author of The Vegetarian Myth.

[Shaved Monkey]

Rice is just sugar virtually
It might be gluten free but its high gi
you will be hungry in 30 or 40 minutes after your sugar rush.

Its best to try to avoid too many white things
too much white sugar,white salt, white flour, white rice and white people isnt good for you.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'R')ice is just sugar virtually
It might be gluten free but its high gi
you will be hungry in 30 or 40 minutes after your sugar rush.

Its best to try to avoid too many white things
too much white sugar,white salt, white flour, white rice and white people isnt good for you.

[Shaved Monkey]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'R')ice is just sugar virtually
It might be gluten free but its high gi
you will be hungry in 30 or 40 minutes after your sugar rush.

Its best to try to avoid too many white things
too much white sugar,white salt, white flour, white rice and white people isnt good for you.

[Tanada]

I was briefly a Vegan in my teen years, I wanted to develop artificial food based on chemistry like they tested on the Astronauts back in the 1960's. Liquid essential nutrients from a laboratory you would drink and get your daily needs met without killing animals, plants fish or anything else.

The problem was twofold, it is very expensive and it takes a lot of energy to build up the required nutrients from raw chemical feed stocks like Ammonia and Carbon Dioxide.

After that I went ovo-lacto-piscean vegetarian which worked pretty well because I was getting essential proteins and fats from the dairy/eggs/fish and felt very self-righteous. A couple years later I went back to the standard American "healthy" diet.

Many of the 'Vegan' people I meet are perfectly nice people but a few fervent persons make the whole system distasteful. I don't tell them how to eat and I expect the same courtesy returned to me.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'R')ice is just sugar virtually
It might be gluten free but its high gi
you will be hungry in 30 or 40 minutes after your sugar rush.

Its best to try to avoid too many white things
too much white sugar,white salt, white flour, white rice and white people isnt good for you.

[Narz]

When I was vegan I was basically healthy, now that I'm not I'm still basically healthy.

The veganism will make your hair fall out, your energy levels plummet, your dick shrink, etc. is dramatic & stupid, as is the reverse about meat.

Just experiment until you find what works.

[basil_hayden]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'R')ice is just sugar virtually
It might be gluten free but its high gi
you will be hungry in 30 or 40 minutes after your sugar rush.

Its best to try to avoid too many white things
too much white sugar,white salt, white flour, white rice and white people isnt good for you.

[dohboi]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/hea ... e23123391/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hy the man who brought us the glycemic index wants us to go vegan

[Tanada]

Lack of meat has clearly damaged his thinking processes. Meat has a near zero Glycemic Index, and should be the diet he is most excited about if he were serious. A diet with adequate meat based protein is extremely filling and removes hunger from your day to day life, and prevents Alzheimer, type 2 diabetes and many other 'western' illnesses caused by excessive carbohydrate consumption.

[Timo]

Humans evolved as omnivores. Meat is as natural a food for human consumption as water for drinking. The key is, as it is for everything, moderation and variety. Too much of any one food does harm to you body because our bodies didn't evolve to function on only one food source. I'm a vegetarian, but i'm not sanctimonious about it. I'm vegetarian because i detest the industrialized meat industry. Sure, i could buy locally processed meats from farms that treat cows and chickens and other living sources of meat in a humane manner prior to killing them, but if i'm so concerned about the lives of these animals being dignified, then why kill them at all? There are alternatives, and i honestly don't miss eating meat. Still, it's my choice, and i do remember how good a filet mignon tastes, and a good, fresh barbequed salmon, and a slow-cooked bbq brisket. I don't begrudge anyone for enjoying those foods. Those foods are reflective of a very flavorful development in human evolution.

I need to be careful, though. More talk like this and i'll talk myself out of being vegetarian.

[Timo]

DAMMIT! THAT BRISKET TALK MADE ME WANT SOME, REAL BAD!!!!!!