[DoomsDaySlayer]

I have absolutely no respect for Matt Savinar. I destroyed him in a debate on his boards and through back-and-forth emails. He quickly censored me on the boards – he banned me and all my posts disappeared REAL quick. Yet he emailed me directly several times afterward and literally reported back to his little flock of zealots via his own posts. How absurd! He wouldn’t let me “say” anything directly to the group …hmmmm. (Of course, I saved all the emails – very amusing). I didn’t use anything near excessive profanity or call him terrible names. Many others on the boards do much more, but, of course, not directed at Matt or his ideas! Being a lawyer, one may think he knows better. But, the reality is, he needs a lesson in censorship, brush up on his debating skills and work on his logic (especially with his views and opinions).

The reality is, he wouldn’t let it stand because someone articulately disagreed with some what he has to say and (more strongly of) his methods. He also must have been scared that his flock would have obviously saw that he was torn up in our debate (they really do treat him like some kind of a prophet – quite amazing!).

He acts like he is so altruistic, but I have seen his site get more and more commercial over the past couple years (he did tell me he leads “ very Spartan” life – however, that may not have been of his choosing until he found this little charade).

Obviously, peak oil is a phenomenon that should be taken seriously, but Matt and his followers are salivating at the chance for complete social breakdown. The funny thing is, I’d wager the vast majority of his followers wouldn’t last a week in some post-apocalyptic world – even with their organic roof-top gardens!

What I can’t stand is the way they all WANT this to happen. They play like they don’t, but carefully read their posts. It’s kind of like weathermen salivating for a hurricane …

The classic thing is, we will go through some very tough transitions in terms of energy, but these clowns are wasting their entire lives “preparing” for this – it’s utterly ludicrous!

And to those who want to “prove” anything to me, I’ have been reading on this for years. I don’t doubt there will be problems and adjustments, but I can’t understand this zealousness.

Every few weeks Matt posts “Breaking News” of which he or someone else essentially claims it is the harbinger of the end of society (or nearly so). A personal favorite was the Iranian Oil Bourse. Some guy from Russia was all over saying how we’d go to war with Iran over this, and, better yet, this would be the end of the petrodollar. How idiotic! You can exchange currency now so anyone can buy oil with ANY currency! Of course, the sheep all stayed right in line saying how this was the end. Of course, it came and went with no great consequence and, of course again, Matt and company just ignored it. No discussion. . No explanation as to WHY the world didn’t fall apart as advertised … hmmmm …

Today it is a “crises” in Mexico. My bet is it will come and go. Boy, if Matt had a million years, just by the law of averages, he may be right some day (and please don’t defend him on this – there are MANY of these “breaking news” stories which come and go with predictions of social breakdowns all the time that haven’t played out!).

Of course there will be wars, problems, recessions, etc all the time – we’re HUMAN BEINGS and it‘s part of the makeup. We’re little monkey-mammals and we just can[t always get along. That said, don’t waste your life HOPING for an end to society. Matt claims his site and opinions aren’t a part of some “doomsday cult, apocalypse bible prophecy sect, or conspiracy theory society” but what is the difference? HE can say THEY are all nuts, but … hmmmm.

In 50 years, I’d be willing to bet that history will see him and his ilk as the equivalent of the zany “world is going to end” sign carriers of yesteryear …

[MattSavinar]

I'll be on from 11 to 2 west coast time. link

[KillTheHumans]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'I')'ll be on from 11 to 2 west coast time.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/info/wheretolisten.html

[Armageddon]

Please tell George that oil didnt't come from dinosaurs and it is not abiotic. Explain to him that no oil field in history has replenished itself either. And explain to him the difference between peaking and running out, and the economic consequences of peaking and diminishing production. Explain to him the worldwide oil rig situation, and the reason why the US hasn't built a refinery since the 70's due to them knowing there won't be enough oil to justify the investment.

[PraiseDoom]

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Just please tell me that whoever is on this time won't pretend uraium is a fossil fuel, that one was pretty embarassing, although admittedly it was the best laugh I had that particular day.

[KillTheHumans]

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Just please tell me that whoever is on this time won't pretend uraium is a fossil fuel, that one was pretty embarassing, although admittedly it was the best laugh I had that particular day.

[Carlhole]

It seems like it would be an interesting little project to actually track down via the Russian Embassy, several different Russian petroleum geologists to put this Abiotic Oil Theory properly in its grave. Or, failing that, track down a Russian oil journalist or business writer to inquire about the abiotic theory.

From what I've read, the Russian theory was advocated by a small number of petroleum geologists way back in the 50's or something and it is not at all representative of current Russian science. How could it be? It's wrong and doesn't produce results.

But it would be a good article to write. Maybe there is an article or paper already written in Russian somewhere that could simply be translated.

It would be great to throw such a paper in the faces of Rense or Coast-to-Coast.

[Armageddon]

Another thing, when George tries to blame geopolitical events for the rising oil prices, tell him the reason for the geopolitical tensions is due to peak oil. Countries are trying to secure oil reserves. It's a catch 22. Obviously , the reason they are in the middle east is because of oil, he can't deny that.

[MattSavinar]

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Just please tell me that whoever is on this time won't pretend uraium is a fossil fuel, that one was pretty embarassing, although admittedly it was the best laugh I had that particular day.

[MattSavinar]

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Just please tell me that whoever is on this time won't pretend uraium is a fossil fuel, that one was pretty embarassing, although admittedly it was the best laugh I had that particular day.

[KillTheHumans]

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Good to see Aaron and Monte are letting the Asbergers kids post these days.

[seldom_seen]

matt,

When/if the subject of ass-biotic fuel comes up, I could recommend bringing up and explaining the subject of cargo cults. Although that might be pretty weighty subject matter for coast to coast.

[Armageddon]

And, lol, sorry, I keep thinking of more things. Tell george the cheap and easy oil is basically gone, all we have left is the hard to extract, expensive oil. If he gets on an ethanol kick, I tell people it's like driving your car that gets 30 mpg 50 miles to put in one gallon of gas. It's a net energy loser.

[fiedag]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'I')'ll be on from 11 to 2 west coast time.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/info/wheretolisten.html

[efarmer]

George came from amplitude modulated (550KHZ) radio in St. Louis, Mo to take over from Art Bell. Basically it was the late night time slot when AM radio gets atmospheric bounce for long distance, and folks who are up wax poetic on all things occult and unexplained and conspiratorial. It is as you said not a launching point from which to be taken serious in my opinion, but he is a very engaging and decent guy who got to the big national market by riding the spooky horse.

PO is self legitimatizing regardless of the idiom or media outlet it is presented from in my opinion. With regard to Coast to Coast I feel it far kinder for folks to ponder alien abductions, bottomless holes in Wyoming, or other more abstract concepts while listening in the deep dark night, than to be made more insomniac by obvious real threats.

(No diss intended George!)

[jato]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KillTheHumans', 'J')ust please tell me that whoever is on this time won't pretend uraium is a fossil fuel

[TheDude]

It's similar to plutoium.

Spooky - just before noticing this topic I was trying to download the torrent for your June 23rd appearance on C2C - and I never muck around with torrents! Coincidence...or...?

Naw, just a coincidence.

Don't bring that up whatever you do. George entertains enough paranormals as it is.

Make sure to mention al-Huseini's announcement of the other day. Faulty reserve data, you say?

[Armageddon]

C2C is now having Jerome Corsi to discuss abiotic oil in the final hour of the show. That is like getting bids on a remodeling job and having the lowest bidder come in last. For all the good that Matt will say, people will hear Corsi's BS and think, cool, everything is fine and go back to sleep. Oh well, you can lead a male horse to a female horse, but you can't make him hose her if she is ugly. Or however the story goes.

[peripato]

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[TheDude]

Listening/recording it right now. Wish George had set up a debate between Matt and Jerome - you are spot on about the impression listeners will come away with, Armageddon.

Will post the MP3 when I'm done for those who missed it, or can't get enough of Matt.