[Pops]

Does anyone else find it ironic that the gated community where the "no retreat" law is called into question is called "The Retreat"?

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'D')oes anyone else find it ironic that the gated community where the "no retreat" law is called into question is called "The Retreat"?

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'I')'m all for CCW and no retreat at home but encouraging shootouts in public seems kind of a step backwards to me.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '[')b]There still will be mistakes made like the repair guy that your spouse called or your daughter sneaking her boyfriend in getting shot, but at least people can be aware that if they are in a house they are at risk.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', ' ') Justifiable homicides are way up in Florida, something like a 186 since the law passed

[rangerone314]

What prevents a criminal in Florida from stalking someone until there are no witnesses around, and then shooting them, planting a knife on their corpse and claiming self-defense and getting away with murder?

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'W')hat prevents a criminal in Florida from stalking someone until there are no witnesses around, and then shooting them, planting a knife on their corpse and claiming self-defense and getting away with murder?

[dinopello]

It seems unlikely that anything much will happen with this particular case. Especially in light of some of the other examples

Joe Horn's 911 Call

Joe disregards multiple instructions to stay inside and instead leaves his house to shoot two burglary suspects.

[Cog]

Bunch of black people killed in Chicago last night but they were killed by other blacks so that is ok.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'B')unch of black people killed in Chicago last night but they were killed by other blacks so that is ok.

[Cog]

Illinois does not have a stand your ground law. These were simply murders among black folks who consider it a recreational affair. If it a white person kills one of them then its drama.


http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')hicago on Wednesday reached 100 homicides for the year—the fastest the city has hit this mark in at least seven years, RedEye and police data show.

Seventeen homicides have been recorded in the last week—including four each on Saturday and Sunday, a RedEye analysis of preliminary police information found.

Chicago has not reached 100 homicides in March since 2004, when the city logged 106 homicides before April 1, according to police data. The city reached 100 homicides last year on April 26, RedEye data show.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I')llinois does not have a stand your ground law. These were simply murders among black folks who consider it a recreational affair.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'A') world of 7 billion people where children starve and die of disease every day and we lose two illegal alien drug traffickers from Columbia shot while in the process of looting. Big loss to the world.

[Cog]

Joe Horn should get a medal for removing two scum-bags from the planet.

Defense of property using lethal force is allowed in Texas and both the perps had extensive criminal records. Something you failed to mention Six.

By the way, a police dispatcher can not give legal or lawful orders to a free citizen. They can only advise.

[rangerone314]

2 illegal alien drug-trafficking convicted burglars shot and killed; I wonder how many future crimes were prevented and how much taxpayer money was saved?

Millions of "human beings" die every year, many of them a lot more deserving to live than the two scum bags Joe Horn killed.

If you want to listen, I have the world's smallest violin to play a sad song for them.

There's a lot to despise about conservatism, but one thing I despise about liberalism is their sympathy for predators, rapists and thieves.

[Plantagenet]

dup post

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he biggest problem here is he could have at least fired a shot in the air and yelled "don't move!"

[Fishman]

Six, I've got some bad news for you. Peak oil has arrive, this is a peak oil site. With fewer resources there will be fewer cops, more crime. Your point rests on lots of resources, lots of cops. With the old saying, a liberal is just someone who hasn't been mugged, yours will be a diminishing viewpoint. Catch up buddy.

[Cog]

Its important to know the rules about the use of lethal force in your jurisdiction. The one in Illinois needs some work since its a bit confusing. We need the Castle Doctrine that most states have.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '(')720 ILCS 5/7-2) (from Ch. 38, par. 7-2)
Sec. 7-2. Use of force in defense of dwelling.
(a) A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent or terminate such other's unlawful entry into or attack upon a dwelling. However, he is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if: (1) The entry is made or attempted in a violent,
riotous, or tumultuous manner, and he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent an assault upon, or offer of personal violence to, him or another then in the dwelling, or (2) He reasonably believes that such force is
necessary to prevent the commission of a felony in the dwelling.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'W')e have a sub culture that has idealized gangsters.