[gnm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PhilBiker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', 'F')actory farming is bad for the animal AND bad for whomever eats the crummy meat toxin filled meat. Buying from small local and or organic/free range farms is a good solution.

[Petro]

Well this topic should then divide: Economic, or animal comfort. What your are saying, in my mind is that if a cow is able to run around an organic field for a couple months, it's ok then to cut its throat, rip its hide off, butcher its flesh and sell it (at a premium). in organic shops...it's a good thing. This to me is so fucking hypocritical I'm just floored. The public display of this hypocricy is disturbing...

This 'organic' bullshit just means this: I dont give a shit how my cow/chicken/hog lives as long as it's organic...kill it anyway you want just dont feed it GM feed, etc., God damn what kind of reality is this?

[Raxozanne]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he difference is the suffering for chickens and pigs and cows in factory farms

[SinisterBlueCat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', 'O')h please! The bird that I own and I are bonded beyond what is considered reasonable. When I leave the room he whistles, says everything in his
verbal inventory. Squawks, etc., I prean his feathers and he (to my discomfort), preans me. It's a case of mamal vs. avion species, yet we are both depedant on each other. We are bonded...there isnt any other description that will suffice...it is no differece than the bond between me and my dogs...just a species difference

[Petro]

Maybe...just maybe you should (rather than telling me what I should study), is for you go read this whold thread. You might find a particular perspective; where an actual person raised a herd of cattle. I'm not going to do the work of retrieving the post, but, I suggest that you do.

After you do you might want to spend some serious time considering:

The reaction of the other cows to the death of a 'fellow' cow. Shoudl you find this (as described by the author), dynamic interesting with respect to the herd behavior concerning the abject slaughter of a felllow cow you might find some reality. Nature has given herd/food animals a gentle, but needed survival mechanism: indeference. This is the mechanism whereby that particualr spesies survives. But you wont get this dynamic. Have you ever watched the dynamic of a pack of dogs, when the alpha males dies...do they sit around and morn....do they tear clothe like the jews...and wail? nope. There are more important things to consider...the regroup...and prevail...


According to your thinking if anything get's too icky...we should just starve....ack...they suffer...I'lll die

I wont eat that stuff....but the bullshit factor is...your will eat it...but you want if fluffy...like a down pilllow...no suffering..


Wake the fuck up!

[SinisterBlueCat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '
')
Have you ever watched the dynamic of a pack of dogs, when the alpha males dies...do they sit around and morn....do they tear clothe like the jews...and wail? nope. There are more important things to consider...the regroup...and prevail...

[Petro]

Heart? This is a sticky thing...don't you think.
My heart tells me: don't slaughter others
Does this equal survival?

Hah...All I can see is you calf-rope, sacrifial love hope and non-beneficial types nudging in on those that are willing to feed you...what does you and your paradigm offer? (and I'm not interested in bullshit...what do you offer future man?)

[SinisterBlueCat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '
')
...what does you and your paradigm offer? (and I'm not interested in bullshit...what do you offer future man?)

[Petro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '
')
...what does you and your paradigm offer? (and I'm not interested in bullshit...what do you offer future man?)

[SinisterBlueCat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '
')
You're absolutely right...And I predict that your type will be scambling to find someone that can slaughter, perserve, pot, etc., These thing wil equate to survival...but heh, don't want to bother you with that ugly underneath.

[Petro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '
')
You're absolutely right...And I predict that your type will be scambling to find someone that can slaughter, perserve, pot, etc., These thing wil equate to survival...but heh, don't want to bother you with that ugly underneath.

[Petro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '
')
You're absolutely right...And I predict that your type will be scambling to find someone that can slaughter, perserve, pot, etc., These thing wil equate to survival...but heh, don't want to bother you with that ugly underneath.

[SinisterBlueCat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '
')
Well this fantasy of yours is great (you should sell it to PETA), but the (again, I know you hate this word: REALITY), is that I have (my whole life, thanks to a father that undedrstood real manhood), spent my life knowing what it takes to survive. I'll bet you have never experienced anything tougher than a line at the express counter. I have shot deer, both doe and b uck, trapped muskrat, beaver, mink, fox etc., you, in your casual life thing you've got it all figured out...what willlyou do to keep your childre warm?

[Raxozanne]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', '
')Since you are not going to read what I write, I am not going to bother to answer you anymore as it is clearly a waste of my time.

[SinisterBlueCat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', '
')Since you are not going to read what I write, I am not going to bother to answer you anymore as it is clearly a waste of my time.

[PhilBiker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', 'W')hy is the thought of giving the right of respect and a decent life to food animals so appalling to you? Is it because you are part of the system and the thought of changing is to difficult?

[PhilBiker]

Regarding this whole issue..... Not to go too far off tangent.

Do you think of the slaughter pictures and videos when you eat meat?

If so, do you think of these horrible appalling images when you turn the lights on or use your computer or watch TV? I do.


We certainly do take our toll on this Earth, don't we.

[SinisterBlueCat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PhilBiker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', 'W')hy is the thought of giving the right of respect and a decent life to food animals so appalling to you? Is it because you are part of the system and the thought of changing is to difficult?

[SinisterBlueCat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PhilBiker', 'R')egarding this whole issue..... Not to go too far off tangent.

Do you think of the slaughter pictures and videos when you eat meat?

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '
')
...what does you and your paradigm offer? (and I'm not interested in bullshit...what do you offer future man?)