[Petro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he difference is the suffering for chickens and pigs and cows in factory farms

[Petro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '
')
...what does you and your paradigm offer? (and I'm not interested in bullshit...what do you offer future man?)

[Petro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '
')
Have you ever watched the dynamic of a pack of dogs, when the alpha males dies...do they sit around and morn....do they tear clothe like the jews...and wail? nope. There are more important things to consider...the regroup...and prevail...

[Petro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')es, I really, really do. I go to great lengths to talk to the butcher in my town about their practices. They are closed on Wednesdays for slaughtering, and I have gone to see how it works. The animals are in good health and they come in from different farmers in the area usually one or two to a trailer. It is not traumatic and I do believe that the farmers have a sort of an attachement to their animals.

[Dukat_Reloaded]

I posted a video in my thread about 6 months ago here peakoil

Video

[Petro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '
')
Well this fantasy of yours is great (you should sell it to PETA), but the (again, I know you hate this word: REALITY), is that I have (my whole life, thanks to a father that undedrstood real manhood), spent my life knowing what it takes to survive. I'll bet you have never experienced anything tougher than a line at the express counter. I have shot deer, both doe and b uck, trapped muskrat, beaver, mink, fox etc., you, in your casual life thing you've got it all figured out...what willlyou do to keep your childre warm?

[SinisterBlueCat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', '
')Sinister I understand your decision to not answer me any more I have been rather stupid with some of my arguments and accusations.

[Dukat_Reloaded]

When I was very young my grandmother gave my parents her dog as she didn't want him anymore. I totally loved that dog and he loved me. Over the next few years I began losing interest in the dog and he became very lonely. He no longer stayed in my room, he stayed outside, when he barked I was annoyed and everything the dog did angered me, even feeding him became a chore and I wished I didn't have a dog. Afew years later the dog slowly became fat and people would point and laugh at him. Not too long after the dog was found dead down the backyard, I think it died from unhappyness.

My point being is people lose emotional attachments to animals and they just become objects like everything else, you seriously don't care about their feelings anymore, they become more of a burden than anything else and you start behaving crulely and not caring. Many of the factory farmers are bored and hate the animals, they might just kick pigs around because they find it funny to watch the pig scurry off and oink after. I would not be crule to an animal but I know that if I became a factory farmer, I would become emotionally desensitised to the animals and probably begin kicking them for fun not after too long like everyone else.

[aldente]

Dukat, you must have learned your lesson. the dog is dead. I did not watch your video since I am aware of the Chinese way of dealing with 'pets'. I lived in Asia for a full three years. Now I enjoy the US of A and guess what? I appreciate the place, as much as it is object to be beaten up madly and badly. This country is not tasing bad at all!

[Ferretlover]

By JOHN SCHWARTZ Published: April 21, 2008
… The organization said it would announce plans on Monday for a $1 million prize to the “first person to come up with a method to produce commercially viable quantities of in vitro meat at competitive prices by 2012.”
… New Harvest, a nonprofit organization formed to promote the field, says on its Web site, “Because meat substitutes are produced under controlled conditions impossible to maintain in traditional animal farms, they can be safer, more nutritious, less polluting and more humane than conventional meat.” …
Soylent green here we come!

[Ludi]

Stupid, pointless waste of time and money.

[dinopello]

Talk about frankenfood.

I joke sometimes that genetic engineers have created a living, boneless chicken variety to save on processing costs. I do a pretty good impression of a boneless chicken in the coop, it's pretty pathetic. It's funny to see people's reaction because they sort of believe it but are rightfully horrified. This doesn't seem much different.

[jlw61]

I love PETA! They provide some of my best material!

Facing Charges

Caught in the Act

More PETA Fun

PETA is Chicken

When People Attack!

[RonMN]

Dino Wrote:
I do a pretty good impression of a boneless chicken in the coop,

I'd like to see that!

[Kylon]

Tumorous Cow Meat Anyone?

But seriously, I have an idea on how to grow Cow Meat that's not mutated, and in large quantities.

Of course it requires an alternative protein source(perhaps chicken egg whites? Or perhaps some broken down version of sea algae?).

Also, if the supply of nutrients to the vat were cheap, then the meat from the vat would be cheap, because it would take far fewer resources to grow the meat(as none of the energy or raw materials would go towards anything other than growth). So it could potentially be very commercially viable, and even extremely lucrative.

[Plantagenet]

Fake meat must be given rights too!

The green pastures and idyllic barnyard scenes of years past are now distant memories. On today's factory farms, fake meat is grown by the ton in filthy windowless sheds, wire cages, gestation crates, and other confinement systems. The fake meat will never raise their families, root in the soil, build nests, or do anything that is natural to them. They won't even feel the sun on their backs or breathe fresh air until the day they are loaded onto trucks bound for carving up and sale.

Fake meat on today's factory farms have no legal protection from cruelty that would be illegal if it were inflicted on dogs or cats: neglect, mutilation, genetic manipulation, and drug regimens that cause chronic pain and crippling, transport through all weather extremes, and gruesome and violent slaughter. Yet how do know that fake meat is less capable of feeling pain than are the dogs and cats we cherish as companions.

[FourOfSwords]

It's sort of already here. Google 'Quorn'. Sold in US and UK. Fake meat made in a commercial vat, out of slime mold...yum.
Alex- looking for a juicy solyent green cheeseburger.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'S')tupid, pointless waste of time and money.

[Narz]

I think it's a good idea personally.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'I') think it's a good idea personally.