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Re: NORTHCOM Plans 5 Day Martial Law Exercise

Unread postby TWilliam » Sat 08 Sep 2007, 15:16:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', 'W')hat I dislike is how a family should stockpile what would be priceless in a disaster yet no means to protect the supplies [read: guns].
That's because you're not stockpiling it for yourself. You're stockpiling it on behalf of the soldiers that will be "in the field" when the sh*t goes down.
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Re: NORTHCOM Plans 5 Day Martial Law Exercise

Unread postby vision-master » Sat 08 Sep 2007, 15:42:11

I have no (registered) weapons. :razz:
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Re: NORTHCOM Plans 5 Day Martial Law Exercise

Unread postby PrairieMule » Sat 08 Sep 2007, 16:03:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', 'i') guess i am confused...this is a bad thing? so many times i hear posters here making fun of the unprepared masses, but then it is a bad thing for the .gov to try to make people aware and prepared?

IMHO- ready.gov does not prepare the average american to go a moderate distance. Gives them a very thin margin and a false sense of security. They advise only three days worth of food, but what happens then? I think the next big event will require us to go the longer than 2-3 days w/o power, food, gas, sewage, water or television. I'd rather keep a low profile than to be visibly armed to the teeth. If you have netflix, put " Refuge of last resort" on your que. It documented how 2 families holed up in a hotel after Katrina. Three days sure wasn't enough for the average "Katrician"(black or white).
Personally, I have enough of freeze-dried stuff for 2 adults and 2 children go one month. After that point, I can access unlimited venison, florida small mouth bass or beef.
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Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby mmasters » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 20:23:20

by Steve Watson Infowars.net Thursday, Feb 21, 2008
An article co-written by a former Congressman and carried by the San Francisco Chronicle has gained much attention recently as it shines light on a coordinated federal government program to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States.

"Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs." write Lewis Seiler and former Congressman Dan Hamburg of the watchdog group Voice of the Environment, Inc.

Voice of the Environment's mission is to educate the public regarding the transfer of public trust assets into private, mostly corporate, hands.

The article continues: Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees.

According to diplomat and author Peter Dale Scott, the KBR contract is part of a Homeland Security plan titled ENDGAME, which sets as its goal the removal of "all removable aliens" and "potential terrorists." Seiler and Hamburg also warn of the alarming and numerous freedom killing pieces of legislation that have been passed recently, dovetailing with the build up of infrastructure of tyranny inside the US.

We have previously highlighted the shocking details behind this shining example of modern day corporate fascism. The issue gained national attention two years ago when it was announced that Kellogg, Brown and Root had been awarded a $385 million dollar contract by Homeland Security to construct detention and processing facilities in the event of a national emergency.

The language of the preamble to the agreement veils the program with talk of temporary migrant holding centers, but it is made clear that the camps will also be used "as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency."

Following the story, first given wide attention by Prisonplanet.com, the Alternet website put together an alarming report that collated all the latest information on plans to initiate internment of political subversives and Muslims after the next major terror attack in the US.

The article highlighted the disturbing comments of Sen. Lindsey Graham, who encouraged torture supporting then Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to target, "Fifth Columnists" Americans who show disloyalty and sympathize with "the enemy," whoever that enemy may be.

It is important to stress that the historical precedent mirrors exactly what the Halliburton camp deal outlines. Oliver North's Reagan era Rex 84 plan proposed rounding up 400,000 refugees, under FEMA, in the event of "uncontrolled population movements" over the Mexican border into the United States.

The real agenda, just as it is with Halliburton's gulags, was to use the cover of rounding up immigrants and illegal aliens as a smokescreen for targeting political dissidents. From 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list.

According to author Naomi Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center today holds the names of roughly 775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per month.

Discussions of federal concentration camps are no longer the rhetoric of paranoid Internet conspiracy theorists, they are mainstream news. Halliburton, through their KBR subsidiary, is the same company that built most of the major new detention camps in Iraq and Afghanistan. KBR have been embroiled in a human sex slave trade that their representatives have lobbied to continue. We have a company that has been handed a contract to build prison camps in America that is engaged in trafficking young girls and women. Can this horror movie get any more frightening? Sadly, yes. link
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby seahorse2 » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 20:33:13

Similar topic here: PO topic I'm linking your article in that thread to keep the info consolidated.
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby DomusAlbion » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 22:44:08

Well, it's better to be prepared, right? We don't want any slipshod, spur of the moment camps set up. That would be inhumane.
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby sittinguy » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 12:12:22

Zombie Camps, Its a good thing, To keep our lives like they are now,, Americans, will give up alot, they just don't have the rite motivation,, yet. In order for soccer moms to keep driving thier SUVs, to the Walmart. And keep the ILLUSION going a while longer,, we are DEFINETLY going to got through a phase of Martail Law eventually. It will be just another sign that the end is nearer
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby eastbay » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 12:37:55

The USA has one out of 100 living behind the barbed wire already. I wonder what the proper number should be because a much higher percentage is the goal... and it's clearly coming. Funny... we're not happy with 1%, so therefore a much higher number would create a happier society. I'm wondering, you know, what should peak incarceration be. 5%.... 10%... ?
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby billg » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 12:54:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'T')he USA has one out of 100 living behind the barbed wire already. I wonder what the proper number should be because a much higher percentage is the goal... and it's clearly coming. Funny... we're not happy with 1%, so therefore a much higher number would create a happier society. I'm wondering, you know, what should peak incarceration be. 5%.... 10%... ?

Clearly, if the economy were to slide into a deep depression, it would no longer be feasible to keep 2.25 million non-producing people locked up, so I don't see an increase in the incarceration rate unless these camps will be turned into slave labor camps (i.e. Burma).
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby killJOY » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 12:57:05

There really is no hope. Get out of debt. Get out of Dodge.
Grow food. Lower your expectations.
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby Kristen » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 20:17:59

If the economy would collapse, The U.S. would not have sufficient funds to transport a large group that size. I think the power will rest in the governments of the states or regions. If you can't get out of the country, move far away from their bases of operation.
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby billg » Sun 02 Mar 2008, 01:07:37

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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby Cloud9 » Sun 02 Mar 2008, 09:18:05

Prisons work because the people inside the facility and the people outside the facility see the inmates as criminals. On any given day in any given facility the inmates can take over the insititution. They are constrained because once they take over the cell block there is no place to go. That would change if people saw the incarceration as unjust and the inmates as victims. You cannot lock up the people of the United States. You don't have enough cops. Relax.
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby manu » Sun 02 Mar 2008, 10:00:34

Nice link billg. I first heard of these in the early 1990's. From airline pilots calling in to late night radio wondering what they were. They all have railroad links. So get ready lemmings, for the hard rocks at the bottom of the cliff.
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 02 Mar 2008, 15:50:43

This is going to be difficult. I don't even think I want any part of it. You can tell those guys to go to hell.
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby peaker_2005 » Mon 03 Mar 2008, 00:16:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('billg', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'T')he USA has one out of 100 living behind the barbed wire already. I wonder what the proper number should be because a much higher percentage is the goal... and it's clearly coming. Funny... we're not happy with 1%, so therefore a much higher number would create a happier society. I'm wondering, you know, what should peak incarceration be. 5%.... 10%... ?
Clearly, if the economy were to slide into a deep depression, it would no longer be feasible to keep 2.25 million non-producing people locked up, so I don't see an increase in the incarceration rate unless these camps will be turned into slave labor camps (i.e. Burma).
Think, bill, think.
They'll most likely end up being labour camps to justify their existence. They'll work people to death. Slavery returns to the once great United States.
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby HEADER_RACK » Mon 03 Mar 2008, 00:50:14

The day the MSM starts to report on these detention camps. I'm bugging out whether everything seems to be going fine or not because they will report it with some BS excuse to why we need them and it is in the country's best intrest to have them. When they do open them up. Good luck trying to find me.
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Mon 03 Mar 2008, 02:58:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HEADER_RACK', 'T')he day the MSM starts to report on these detention camps. I'm bugging out whether everything seems to be going fine or not because they will report it with some BS excuse to why we need them and it is in the country's best intrest to have them. When they do open them up. Good luck trying to find me.
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btw, for those who don't know. If you choose to go off the grid, it doesn't necessarily mean getting off the power grid or disappearing from computers. It means changing you so much that none of your activities that would normally be classified as you would be detectable under the new persona.
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Mon 03 Mar 2008, 04:37:35

These camps were made to be destroyed in the event they are used to house masses of Americans. Just look at them. They'd look so beautiful with an angry mob of patriots cutting the fences down with chainsaws, blowing the buildings up with improvised IEDs, and using the guards as target practice.
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Re: Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

Unread postby billg » Mon 03 Mar 2008, 14:35:43

Considering what is happening with the climate...my first choice would be Alaska... :lol:
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