[The_Toecutter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')nflation will help debtors.

[ColossalContrarian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', ' ')It won't be pretty to be in debt in the US of A!!!

[Tyler_JC]

The Central Valley of California, in the words of Jim Cramer, needs to be demolished. They built thousands upon thousands of houses more than were actually needed. Then prices collapse, developers go broke, foreclosers skyrocket, and the finger pointing begins.

Just because one area is a disaster doesn't make it a national emergency. Less than 1% of mortgages are in default. When you factor in the large number of homes without mortgages, it shrinks to about .7% of mortgages.

Most of those belong to people who never should have joined the ranks of the home-owning class to begin with. When the teaser rates vanished on their no down payment interest-only loans, they stopped being home "owners" in a hurry.

[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'M')ost of those belong to people who never should have joined the ranks of the home-owning class to begin with.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'M')ost of those belong to people who never should have joined the ranks of the home-owning class to begin with.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'L')ess than 1% of mortgages are in default. When you factor in the large number of homes without mortgages, it shrinks to about .7% of mortgages.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'p')eople who have to funnel all their income into their mortgages on depreciating properties.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'p')eople who have to funnel all their income into their mortgages on depreciating properties.

[mmasters]

Martial Law: 8 million Americans to be potentially DETAINED:
US government perportedly has secret list of around 8 million US Citizens to potentially be placed in detention centers in the event of a national emergency says Former Attorney General.
See article: link

[Denny]

It seems almost too creepy to be true:

According to a senior government official who served with high-level security clearances in five administrations, "There exists a database of Americans, who, often for the slightest and most trivial reason, are considered unfriendly, and who, in a time of panic, might be incarcerated. The database can identify and locate perceived 'enemies of the state' almost instantaneously." He and other sources tell Radar that the database is sometimes referred to by the code name Main Core.

But, where could 8 million people be incarcerated at short notice? And the organization to do so? Just the security and guarding of them wold become a major, almost long term project to organize, even if one had the physical facilities lined up.

I could see maybe 80,000 but not 8 million. That wouldl be like a whole country.

[Jack]

If one ever wants scary reading, start looking at the various emergency rules and laws. The powers that be can do just about anything they want.
As for the 8 million...we've got about 3 million behind bars. Add in those on probation and parole, and you're up to 7.2 million.
LINK

So I can see rounding up 8 million.

[Micki]

8 million shouldn't be a problem. That is less than 2.5% of the population. The new FEMA camps can easily hold a few million. Going from memory it is Alaska there is one that can hold 1million people.
If priority is to get dissenters in custody and there isn't enough space in the camps, they may even release other convicts instead. It is a matter of priority.

If you haven't done your research on FEMA camps start by at least checking out some videos on youtube.

It cannot be debated wheter they are are there or not.
The question is just what for. Guard towers, barb wire, train tracks... it sure ain't emergency housing during natural disaster.

[DomusAlbion]

How many members of PeakOil.com are on the list?

Curious minds want to know.

[3aidlillahi]

8 million? Hmmm...Well, 6 million Muslims so that leaves us with 2 million openings. Who's gonna be my cellmate? Probably gold bugs and leftist landowners. Anybody who'd challenge the establishment is likely on there.

They always find ways to get a Congressman or two on the no-fly list. Maybe they'll make an error and accidentally put Bush and Cheney on that list.

[smallpoxgirl]

Not surprising. Back in the 70's Hoover is well documented to have maintained a "Security Index" of dissidents who were to be detained in the event of a "National Emergency". Congress ordered FBI to stop it following the Church Committee hearings in 1975, but in reality it's pretty unlikely that much of anything after the hearings other than FBI making sure it's activities didn't get leaked to Senator Church.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', '8') million shouldn't be a problem. That is less than 2.5% of the population. The new FEMA camps can easily hold a few million. Going from memory it is Alaska there is one that can hold 1million people.
If priority is to get dissenters in custody and there isn't enough space in the camps, they may even release other convicts instead. It is a matter of priority.
If you haven't done your research on FEMA camps start by at least checking out some videos on youtube.
It cannot be debated whether they are are there or not.
The question is just what for. Guard towers, barb wire, train tracks ... it sure ain't emergency housing during natural disaster.

[eXpat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', 'H')ow many members of PeakOil.com are on the list?
Curious minds want to know.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'N')ot surprising. Back in the 70's Hoover is well documented to have maintained a "Security Index" of dissidents who were to be detained in the event of a "National Emergency." Congress ordered FBI to stop it following the Church Committee hearings in 1975, but in reality it's pretty unlikely that much of anything after the hearings other than FBI making sure it's activities didn't get leaked to Senator Church.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'B')ut, where could 8 million people be incarcerated at short notice?

[DomusAlbion]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'J')ohn Lennon was on a list. Nothing really became of any of this.