[PenultimateManStanding]

A guy I know who smokes pot everyday says that he never has dreams.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Here's a point to ponder. Raphael can't remember his dreams when he smokes pot, my friend who has smoked regularly since we were in High School together never has dreams that he can recall, and back when I used to smoke it I could never remember any dreams either. Maybe we are supposed to recall our dreams sometimes for some reason. My old High School friend seems sort of dried out these days, stagnant, in a rut. Perhaps if pot is used at all, it should only be for occassional use only in order for us to remember some dreams.

[PenultimateManStanding]

The subject of lies came up on another thread. This is the right place, though, to make this response. These are lines from the play by Sophocles, Oedipus Rex about the King of Thebes who unknowingly fulfilled a prophesy by killing his father and marrying his mother:

Jocasta (his queen wife and mother): Don't do this. I beg you. Be persuaded by me.

Oedipus: I cannot. I must bring this whole thing to the light.

Jocasta: It is for your own good.

Oedipus: My own good. If ignorance is for my own good, then I want no more of my own good.

Jocasta: Oh, God help you. God keep you ignorant of who you are!

[Specop_007]

So, whats everyones opinion? Are dreams just a meaningless byproduct of sleep or is there something deeper to them?

[UIUCstudent01]

Dreams are mostly meaningless. Sometimes I have dreams whenever I'm thinking heavily about something, and sometimes there are elements in that dream I remember not thinking about for years at a time. I conclude dreams are a byproduct of sleep.

What's the purpose of sleep anyways? Never heard of technical/physiological reason or anything. Dreams are probably a byproduct of that.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

Since I was young I've had dreams that came true. You can tell the ones that do come true by the feel of them. I've had one particular dream where I've foretold the deaths of people each time I had them. and did know three times when someone was going to die. But I haven't had those for years (don't want them).

I've had others that were my subconscious letting off stress or comforting me. I think they can be very useful tools. but they can also be torture. I think its what you want or ask for. some are just plain fun!

[RonMN]

I've had dreams of falling and falling and falling...never came true.
I had dreams of going to school in my undies...never came true.
But i have had a few that came true...i've also had dreams that were so good or bad they actually changed my outlook on life.
So who's to say?
What was your dream? (if you care to say)...

[PenultimateManStanding]

I used to have dreams as a kid that late at night when everyone else was asleep but me I ran out onto the late night street and ran flapping my arms until I could fly up and down my old neighborhood streets in the dark night air.

[EnviroEngr]

PMS, where are you?

[EnviroEngr]

never mind that.
just another synchronicity.
I know where you are.
right at the tip of my thoughts.
Cheers.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnviroEngr', '
')Cheers.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', 'I')'ve had dreams of falling and falling and falling...never came true.
I had dreams of going to school in my undies...never came true.
But i have had a few that came true...i've also had dreams that were so good or bad they actually changed my outlook on life.
So who's to say?
What was your dream? (if you care to say)...

[threadbear]

Had exact same dream PMS. Always in the pajamas, always flying down the street. I've graduated to flying jumbo jetliners now. I'm always taking over for a pilot who has had a heart attack on my way to a Soviet block country, wearing a Hawaiian shirt, juggling the controls with one hand, and nursing a big tropical cocktail with the other.

Spec Op, A friend of mine thinks that dreams that are very real and clear, and make a certain amount of sense, have very strong messages, that are often clear to the one dreaming, or you have actually teleported elsewhere, at least mentally.

The other completely jibberish dreams are the attempts of mind at large to download a meaningful symbolic information packet, and the message gets messed up because the information can't be processed properly, by the dreamer's brain. Sort of a software incompatible with hardware problem.
This opinion piece about "Following your dreams", is quite funny, particularly in light of PMS's flying dream.

Vancouver Courier--Geoff Olson
"Following a dream" is the headline of a letter in last Sunday's Courier. "It takes guts to follow your wildest dreams," notes the letter writer, using the shopworn construction to defend someone profiled in the paper. A feel-good meme on the lips of advertising executives, high school valedictorians and karaoke singers, "follow your dreams" nets a total of 85,000 hits on Google.

Personally, I have doubts about taking real-world direction from my nocturnal submissions. It really would take guts to follow my wildest dreams, which involve walking naked through supermarkets, or flinging myself off the top of tall buildings like a cartoon character. Incidentally, in my dreams of flying I favour the arms-outstretched, Superman style, but my swooping is invariably met with boredom from others in the dream, as if zooming around in the sky is no biggie. In this respect, I'm sure the results of my "following a dream" in waking life would be painful if not lethal. Yet if I were to "take a dream under advisement," I could get a pilot's license
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[Laurasia]

I think dreams are often a way that you work through problems, etc., in your head. Your brain uses your 'down' time to process them. Then there are dreams where your deepest longings are expressed. I frequently wake up crying from those, because they will never happen. Then there are the flying dreams which I think really are the magical part of our souls - I fly by a supreme act of will! Two nights ago I dreamed that I could bend spoons like Uri Geller - that was SUCH a feeling of power, and when I woke up I had to remind myself that I actually couldn't bend spoons that way.

By the way, do most of us dream in colour? Vivid TechniColor for me!

Regards,

L.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'H')ad exact same dream PMS. Always in the pajamas, always flying down the street.

[Rhinestones]

I am most surely giving my dreams their due.
I always have, but now they are a path to another world of awareness. For example:

On 12/25/2004 I awoke from a vivid color dream where my wife and another friendly couple were standing in the yard of our coastal Florida home. The other guy says "do you hear that?" We all perk up to listen, and there is NO sound, and we are alarmed and puzzled. Then we hear the trickling sound of water and see it rising from the intracoastal and bayou, crossing the street, flowing in through both driveways and pouring onto the lawn. As the water hits the grass, it's like an eruption and we are thigh deep. A sense of wonder and apprehension build, and suddenly the water reverses and leaves no trace. END. Awake now, Christmas dawns and so as not to dampen the day I mention to my wife and son that they have to hear about my dream, later. Around nine I detail the dream to my 'bro and he suggests it's related to the traumatic hurricane we're still suffering with. Makes sense, yea? I forget now if it was that night or early the next morning that I got online again and learned of the events in Indonesia. I was unable to watch Any of the coverage.

21 days later, we contracted for 27 acres in the ozarks. 33 days from now, we'll leave the gulf coast for good. Though I don't think the move particularly increases our chances of survival in a worst case, I'm pretty sure we won't drown. lol.

I'm also having vivid dreams featuring wide/high tunnels. Time to buy a shovel i guess.

I hope others will post their experience as I believe there is way more at work after dark than simply the individual subconscious.
Delightful synchro EE and PMS!

[killJOY]

Research it. Dreams are nothing.
Interpretation is a crock, just as literary theory is a crock.
"The meaning of your dream, my dear, is whatever I, The Interpreter, say it is."
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') once had a very vivid dream of an airplane crashing nose first in San Diego (where I lived for 20 years). About ten years after the dream an airliner went down in San Diego. Am I clairvoyant? Would the case be stronger for clairvoyance if the airliner went down the day after I had my dream? I don't think so.