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THE Dow Jones Industrials (DJI) Thread (merged)

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The Dow Jones will be..

Poll ended at Wed 15 Jun 2005, 20:53:42

Be the same.
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Below 10,000.
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Below 9,000.
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Below 8,000.
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Below 7,000
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Below 6,000.
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5,000 and below.
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Total votes : 64

Re: Dow down 600 points this week 400 points today

Unread postby IrrationalExuberanceMonky » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 20:23:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Troyboy1208', 'I')ts a great market for bargain hunters. I have a feeling it will go up today


Thanks for buying the rally dumbass. LOL.
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Re: Dow down 600 points this week 400 points today

Unread postby IrrationalExuberanceMonky » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 20:27:39

Looks like the market might be sideways for the moment, we'll see...
Got to do those counts....
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Re: Dow down 600 points this week 400 points today

Unread postby Eli » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 20:35:30

Here is the biggest news of the day and it aint good, word up.

Panic in the money markets!

Don't kid yourself this is out and out panic.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ere's what's happening:

Some of the world's largest and most "professional" investors, so cozy in their complacency just days ago, are dumping short-term loans (commercial paper) like hot potatoes, especially those backed by mortgages.

And with virtually no one willing to buy them, the rates that borrowers have to pay on these loans have gone through the roof.

Meanwhile, investors are so utterly desperate for a safe haven, and so anxious to throw more money into short-term Treasury bills, they've caused one of the greatest plunges in T-bill rates of all time …

* The 1-month T-bill rate has plunged from 4.52% last Tuesday to as low as 1.25% today. That's not a typo! It was actually down by more than THREE full percentage points in just four trading days!

* Today alone, the 3-month T-bill rate was down by over one full percentage point before recovering a bit.

* The all-critical spread, or difference, between the 1-month T- bill and 30-day commercial paper rates is now as much as THREE times bigger than it was just a few days ago — another confirmation of panic in these markets.

Things are happening so fast, even the nation's leading news organizations are having trouble keeping track.


The rats are getting off the ship.

We are screwed someone huge is Bankrupt and they have yet to come clean. I don't see how we are going to make it into 2008 without a major global blowout.
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Re: Dow down 600 points this week 400 points today

Unread postby Troyboy1208 » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 20:40:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IrrationalExuberanceMonky', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Troyboy1208', 'I')ts a great market for bargain hunters. I have a feeling it will go up today


Thanks for buying the rally dumbass. LOL.


That is a completely inappropriate comment. No need to insult me. What have I ever done to you?
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Re: Dow down 600 points this week 400 points today

Unread postby IrrationalExuberanceMonky » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 20:41:15

Anyone with a brain saw this. Seriously... G-d BLESS JEBUSMONEYANDSTUFF! LOL!
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Re: Dow down 600 points this week 400 points today

Unread postby IrrationalExuberanceMonky » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 20:45:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Troyboy1208', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IrrationalExuberanceMonky', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Troyboy1208', 'I')ts a great market for bargain hunters. I have a feeling it will go up today


Thanks for buying the rally dumbass. LOL.


That is a completely inappropriate comment. No need to insult me. What have I ever done to you?


I apologise, I easily become a punk/scumbag when I get excited by the cut of the jib! Again my apologies sir, still I believe your outlook on stocks is BS!
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Re: Dow down 600 points this week 400 points today

Unread postby Troyboy1208 » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 20:46:54

Thanks
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Re: Dow down 600 points this week 400 points today

Unread postby IrrationalExuberanceMonky » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 20:51:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Troyboy1208', 'T')hanks


NP! SELL, SELL, SELL! :-D :-D
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Dow Jones Has Worst Year Since 1937

Unread postby deMolay » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 21:00:17

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Re: Dow Has Worst Year Since 1937

Unread postby Roccland » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 21:12:43

Yep

and we are about to break every record ever recorded.
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Re: Dow Has Worst Year Since 1937

Unread postby frankthetank » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 21:38:40

The year ain't done yet...

Rocc-
You still have your life savings invested in some risky growth fund!!!? :)
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Re: Dow Has Worst Year Since 1937

Unread postby jbrovont » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 21:40:13

Yeah I was going to say: for good or ill, this isn't over.
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Re: Dow Has Worst Year Since 1937

Unread postby roccman » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 21:51:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'T')he year ain't done yet...

Rocc-
You still have your life savings invested in some risky growth fund!!!? :)


My xlf puts are up almost 300%.

Betting the banks would fail 3 years ago was a VERY cheap bet.
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Re: Dow Has Worst Year Since 1937

Unread postby DantesPeak » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 22:00:48

Excluding the financial sector, I see the market higher at year end then now. I know that sounds crazy, and we may even have one or two more major financial bankruptcies before then, but history shows that monetary inflation on the present scale will result in asset inflation.
It's already over, now it's just a matter of adjusting.
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Re: Dow Has Worst Year Since 1937

Unread postby jbrovont » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 22:39:44

I noticed a big theme in the debates was "lower taxes, spend more, pay down the deficit" except when McCain said spending freeze between saying spend more and spend more.

The only way to do those three things together, is to inflate.
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Re: Dow Has Worst Year Since 1937

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 22:48:54

Jazzy Flash-programmed 6 month stock curve

that's for the Dow. going back 6 months, to a local peak in May 2008 of 13K, down from the peak of 14K about a year ago.

where do you think the Dow will be in May 2008 ? i think it is optimistic to think that it will be 9000. third quarter economic results are due out, fourth quarter looks worse than the third quarter. i don't like playing a big guessing game since the market is so manipulated. i think a Dow of 8000 in May 2008 is optimistic. the drop from 13000 to 8000, May 2008 to May 2009, that's about a 40% drop.

i still think the government will try to find a way to blame this on those "damn Muslim terrorists" they tell us about.
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Dow Jones Futures way down for Wednesday

Unread postby TimeTraveller » Wed 08 Oct 2008, 04:24:38

DJ futures currently down -347 to 9188. US market bloodbath is coming. I hate to say it, but I think this is it. The big one. And it seems nothing and no one can stop it.

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Re: Dow Jones Futures way down for Wednesday

Unread postby Madpaddy » Wed 08 Oct 2008, 04:30:09

Irish Stock Market down 8-9% again this morning.

FTSE down 5.8% (after government guarantee).

I think this is it too. State Guarantee of banks has failed. Nothing is left in the arsenal.
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Re: Dow Jones Futures way down for Wednesday

Unread postby MD » Wed 08 Oct 2008, 04:30:10

Look at the bright side: PO now becomes a non-issue!

Wait a minute...that's a bright side? 8O :? :shock:
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Re: Dow Jones Futures way down for Wednesday

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Wed 08 Oct 2008, 04:30:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TimeTraveller', 'D')J futures currently down -347 to 9188. US market bloodbath is coming. I hate to say it, but I think this is it. The big one. And it seems nothing and no one can stop it.

futures


Have faith. Helicopter Ben can stop it! :lol:
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