$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'A')nd that dead horse pretty much destroys the guy's credibility IMO.
You don't even need the whole thing... just "Peak oil is a scam to create artificial scarcity..." ahhh....
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THE Alex Jones Thread (merged)
Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack
by Aaron » Tue 05 May 2009, 14:20:12
Aaron, I respect and understand your rejection of Alex. With the Peak Oil issue, it would be like a Christian being unable to acknowledge any credibility in an Atheist. Totally understandable.
But a long time ago, I learned that no one is perfect and it is unwise to 'throw the baby out with the bath water' when it comes to individuals. Everyone, no matter who they are, have some redeeming qualities.
Ahh the luxury of being young... I almost remember what that was like.
Even longer ago I concluded that I have a personal comfort zone regarding just how bad a person's reasoning can be, and still qualify for the generous assumption you made above.
Good luck with that.
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack
by mos6507 » Tue 05 May 2009, 14:42:35
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')But a long time ago, I learned that no one is perfect and it is unwise to 'throw the baby out with the bath water' when it comes to individuals. Everyone, no matter who they are, have some redeeming qualities.
')But a long time ago, I learned that no one is perfect and it is unwise to 'throw the baby out with the bath water' when it comes to individuals. Everyone, no matter who they are, have some redeeming qualities.
It's also instructive to understand the nature of bias. Alex Jones' opinions on peak oil and global warming reflect a psychological predisposition to see all aspects of life as being the product of globalist conspiracies. That's how he creates content for himself. CTs are his "product". How else would he come to these conclusions in such flagrant ignorance of the data and the science? So if you are dealing with someone with that sort of predeliction, how can you not second guess anything and everything that comes out of him and his sites?? The answer can only be that you and your ilk ALSO have a paranoid bias. You'll accept CT narratives by default and place the burden to debunk it on everyone else. Classic reverse-occam's-razor thinking that infects worldsends like this. Jones feeds you exactly what you want to hear. No different from, let's say, Rush Limbaugh on the right or Michael Moore on the left. So of course you're going to give Jones a pass, because he feeds your CT addiction.
The reason I waste so much of my time trying to kick over CTs like this is not because I am some kind of big fan of BAU or TPTB. It's because I see cognitive bias as being one of the biggest flaws in the human condition. To me a CT nut is merely another form of a sheeple. It's just that rather than accepting everything the MSM and politicians tell them, the CT nuts accept everything that the fringe (Alex Jones, Lindsay Williams, Richard C Hoagland, etc...) tell them. It's kind of like a teenager who has to rebel by doing the opposite of what his parents want him to do. Rebellion for the sake of rebellion. It's juvenile to have this kind of black and white, good and evil thinking. The truth lies somewhere inbetween, but that's not melodramatic enough for some tinfoil doomers.
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack
by jasonraymondson » Tue 05 May 2009, 14:48:41
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '
')But a long time ago, I learned that no one is perfect and it is unwise to 'throw the baby out with the bath water' when it comes to individuals. Everyone, no matter who they are, have some redeeming qualities.
')But a long time ago, I learned that no one is perfect and it is unwise to 'throw the baby out with the bath water' when it comes to individuals. Everyone, no matter who they are, have some redeeming qualities.
It's also instructive to understand the nature of bias. Alex Jones' opinions on peak oil and global warming reflect a psychological predisposition to see all aspects of life as being the product of globalist conspiracies. That's how he creates content for himself. CTs are his "product". How else would he come to these conclusions in such flagrant ignorance of the data and the science? So if you are dealing with someone with that sort of predeliction, how can you not second guess anything and everything that comes out of him and his sites?? The answer can only be that you and your ilk ALSO have a paranoid bias. You'll accept CT narratives by default and place the burden to debunk it on everyone else. Classic reverse-occam's-razor thinking that infects worldsends like this. Jones feeds you exactly what you want to hear. No different from, let's say, Rush Limbaugh on the right or Michael Moore on the left. So of course you're going to give Jones a pass, because he feeds your CT addiction.
The reason I waste so much of my time trying to kick over CTs like this is not because I am some kind of big fan of BAU or TPTB. It's because I see cognitive bias as being one of the biggest flaws in the human condition. To me a CT nut is merely another form of a sheeple. It's just that rather than accepting everything the MSM and politicians tell them, the CT nuts accept everything that the fringe (Alex Jones, Lindsay Williams, Richard C Hoagland, etc...) tell them. It's kind of like a teenager who has to rebel by doing the opposite of what his parents want him to do. Rebellion for the sake of rebellion. It's juvenile to have this kind of black and white, good and evil thinking. The truth lies somewhere inbetween, but that's not melodramatic enough for some tinfoil doomers.
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