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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby Jotapay » Fri 01 May 2009, 20:04:56

So no one has a well-reasoned and logical response to what I said? You've got nothing but cartoons and parroting of cartoons? Seriously?
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 01 May 2009, 20:08:49

Does Jones present the information as though it is the known verified facts, or is he just presenting it in the spirit of "Look at this"? I don't have a problem with "Look at this" although some people just accept that as a fact and don't do their own follow-up.
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Fri 01 May 2009, 21:01:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'D')oes Jones present the information as though it is the known verified facts, or is he just presenting it in the spirit of "Look at this"? I don't have a problem with "Look at this" although some people just accept that as a fact and don't do their own follow-up.


Uhhh....Jones is pretty much the Jim Cramer of conspiracy loons. "I know exactly what's going on in the world. All of my ideas are irrefutable biblical truth, and I'm going to yell them at you really loud! I said really LOUD!"
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby Jotapay » Fri 01 May 2009, 21:13:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'D')oes Jones present the information as though it is the known verified facts, or is he just presenting it in the spirit of "Look at this"? I don't have a problem with "Look at this" although some people just accept that as a fact and don't do their own follow-up.


In my opinion, he exaggerates quite a bit but there is a lot of truth there. Critical thinking and reading between the lines is key. Still, I find info there and every news source that I read/listen to has a slant, so you can't exactly throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby JJ » Fri 01 May 2009, 21:14:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'T')he fact of the matter is that Alex Jones is not a true journalistic news source. That his sites would even publish the crap about the camera in the cable box without it passing through some kind of bullsh*t detector shows that, let alone his outspoken global warming and peak oil denial. If you are addicted to being fed a steady stream of propaganda that makes the US government or big corporations look like the anti-christ, then I can understand why you'd be hooked on Alex Jones, but he just does not even have as much journalistic integrity as the MSM that he maligns.


wow, he went to the same high school I did (Anderson High in Austin, Texas) albeit fifteen years later...well, that explains it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio)
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby JJ » Fri 01 May 2009, 21:20:04

now Art Bell's my kinda guy, married four asians, currenly married to a Filipina...:)...once you've tried caucasian it's right back to asian...:)


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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby Jotapay » Fri 01 May 2009, 21:25:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'U')hhh....Jones is pretty much the Jim Cramer of conspiracy loons. "I know exactly what's going on in the world. All of my ideas are irrefutable biblical truth, and I'm going to yell them at you really loud! I said really LOUD!"



Hehe, he is a loon. He doesn't quite take that tone, SPG, but he is passionate. People who dissent with him go to the front of his call waiting list. He admits he makes mistakes too. He is truthful with his listeners, I think, but he's also human. He gives away everything he does for free and the man has a family.

I think it is true that if you don't go to his site, you risk missing out on information (unless it is reposted some place like here). I don't agree with the assertion that he can justifiably be completely discredited. His actions just don't warrant it due to the positive things he accomplishes like getting info out to us.

It's funny to me that lots of people who evidently despise him respond with "OMG, I can't believe this! They will never do this to me!" to the posts I make with documents about our government actions that Alex provided. People don't seem to be so hateful then.
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby Jotapay » Fri 01 May 2009, 21:57:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JJ', 'w')ow, he went to the same high school I did (Anderson High in Austin, Texas) albeit fifteen years later...well, that explains it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio)


I know Anderson is a huge HS, but I live right in the middle of the serviced area. We could have been neighbors back then. :razz: Right now Alex lives in the same neighborhood as the police chief, Art Acevedo, but I don't know where that is. They rap about that when the chief goes on his show though.
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby Jotapay » Fri 01 May 2009, 23:40:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'I')t's funny to me that lots of people who evidently despise him respond with "OMG, I can't believe this! They will never do this to me!" to the posts I make with documents about our government actions that Alex provided. People don't seem to be so hateful then.


Just to be clear, people actually thank me for posting the info that I get from Alex's websites. It would not become known otherwise. I can dig up all those posts in the Open Forum. This seems a bit hypocritical.

Again, I'm not apologizing for all his shortcomings, but it is unwarranted to dismiss everything about him outright when folks actually express gratitude for his info when it's posted here under my account.
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby ypct_george » Sat 02 May 2009, 12:48:29

Jotapay, understanding of what you say about AJ requires both intelligent and open mind - a rarely found combination.
I agree with you - AJ acts like a clown (asides from things already mentioned in this thread, he should really do something about those idiotic ads on his sites, but then, he needs to make money too), but due to the fact that he posts everything he comes in contact with, his sites are a great source of info as well as disinfo, just like any other news outlet, especially the mass ones.
Aside from that, by publicizing and fighting the dark sides of Patriot Act, AJ has probably done more for the US than all US members of this forum combined. It takes a fool to do such things, normal people are not that brave.
Don't let your opinion be formed based on interaction with a handful of people - historically much bigger groups of people were proven to be collectively wrong. (Not that I think you do, just sayin'.)
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby TheDude » Sat 02 May 2009, 15:36:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'U')hhh....Jones is pretty much the Jim Cramer of conspiracy loons. "I know exactly what's going on in the world. All of my ideas are irrefutable biblical truth, and I'm going to yell them at you really loud! I said really LOUD!"


:lol: That's hilarious. Although I can't see Alex grabbing a toy monkey and slamming its cymbals together while jumping up and down... But I do agree with Jota that Alex has a solid record with mundane matters like gun control issues, say. I just zone out the fringe material, when/if it makes its appearance here, that is. Actually I count on this site to keep me up-to-date with obscure stories. If Alex is saying that some Black Ops is conducting an assault on his servers...well, that would be par for the course.

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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby JJ » Sat 02 May 2009, 19:23:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JJ', 'w')ow, he went to the same high school I did (Anderson High in Austin, Texas) albeit fifteen years later...well, that explains it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio)


I know Anderson is a huge HS, but I live right in the middle of the serviced area. We could have been neighbors back then. :razz: Right now Alex lives in the same neighborhood as the police chief, Art Acevedo, but I don't know where that is. They rap about that when the chief goes on his show though.


Jotapay, I lived across the street from Murchison Middle School, then I was bussed from 45th and Bull Creek road. Graduated from A. 1976 (but I was on my way to prison by then). Only hung out with the dopers back then, probably wouldn't have known you. Never actually started to get an education until I was 27 (1985). So I'm not sure if we met.

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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby mos6507 » Sat 02 May 2009, 23:04:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ypct_george', '
')AJ has probably done more for the US than all US members of this forum combined.


Like his war against the peak oil theory? What a humanitarian. I mean, as a peak oiler how can you NOT love him?
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby Jotapay » Sat 02 May 2009, 23:35:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '[')url=http://www.infowars.com/articles/economy/peak_oil_globalist_scam.htm]Like his war against the peak oil theory?[/url] What a humanitarian. I mean, as a peak oiler how can you NOT love him?


That is one of his huge omissions in my department. He flatly denies that "peak oil" exists and is a hoax perpetrated by TPTB. This is obviously one of his huge flaws. He has many more flaws, trust me. I sometimes have to remove my headphones when he continually interrupts his guests. It's so anti-social and insulting. But the reason I think that they continue to come onto his show is that they realize he is the only avenue to get this info out to the public.

People keep trying to crucify him over one point, while ignoring all the other good info he provides, when making your attack. This isn't fair. Crucify him for his flaws, but at the same time be fair and give a balanced interpretation of his work. Otherwise your work and interpretation is juvenile and not worthy of serious consideration by those who are trained in the Socratic method.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method

Before I even settled on my geological science degree as my primary interest, I studied literature and logic. If you are going to make a point, please do it well with some reason which is defensible from all sides. Otherwise, it seems child-like.
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby The_Virginian » Sun 03 May 2009, 08:08:24

AJ is at least as good as ABC, NBC , or See BS.

The bulk of (polite) DOCTORS and scientists who told you eggs were bad for your heart and were wrong are forgiven much more quickly...esp. when the whole lie was based on ONE false study...

I completely disagree with his PO beleif, and his style. But not always his content.
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby Aaron » Sun 03 May 2009, 10:02:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')eak Oil is a Corrupt Globalist Scam

In other words, Peak oil is a scam to create artificial scarcity and drive prices up. Meanwhile, alternative fuel technologies which have been around for decades are intentionally suppressed.


http://www.infowars.com/articles/economy/peak_oil_globalist_scam.htm

Shall I go on?
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby vision-master » Sun 03 May 2009, 10:09:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')eak Oil is a Corrupt Globalist Scam

In other words, Peak oil is a scam to create artificial scarcity and drive prices up. Meanwhile, alternative fuel technologies which have been around for decades are intentionally suppressed.


http://www.infowars.com/articles/economy/peak_oil_globalist_scam.htm

Shall I go on?


I rate this guy up there with those television evangelists. :badgrin:
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby Jotapay » Mon 04 May 2009, 14:08:29

Love him or hate him, he is having his 1st Amendment rights attacked. For no reason, YouTube just suspended his account where he posts all his videos for free.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel

Hooray censorship in the USA!!
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby Aaron » Mon 04 May 2009, 19:33:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'L')ove him or hate him, he is having his 1st Amendment rights attacked. For no reason, YouTube just suspended his account where he posts all his videos for free.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel

Hooray censorship in the USA!!


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Peak Oil is a Corrupt Globalist Scam

In other words, Peak oil is a scam to create artificial scarcity and drive prices up. Meanwhile, alternative fuel technologies which have been around for decades are intentionally suppressed.


http://www.infowars.com/articles/econom ... t_scam.htm
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Re: All Alex Jones sites under attack

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Mon 04 May 2009, 19:55:42

My biggest problem with alex jones's site is Alex Jones himself. He at times may cover real legitmate information, but most of the time he talks out of his ass. So anything that the average person sees on his site is considered to be conspiracy moronic BS.

If and when he actually posts real authentic news and information and you link to, everybody views you and the "authentic news" as bs lies.

I personally think that Alex Jones is an insider who is doing his best to discredit everyone and anyone who might have a differing view than the shit we are force fed. Take peak oil one authentic problem that the government absolutly doesn't want people thinking about and he is against it.

It makes you think.
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