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Re: Another Oil price Record

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Re: Another Record

Postby gnm » Mon 26 Nov 2007, 12:51:56

Hehe Bloomberg is claiming its dropping because the mighty dollar has recovered from its lows against the Euro. Yeah right, it shot right past a 1/4 cent gain to 1/2. Wheee we're saved. :roll:

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Re: Another Record

Postby firestarter » Mon 26 Nov 2007, 13:20:15

CNBC just reported Saudi Arabia is in the process of ramping up production in a significant way (whatever that entails????).
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Re: Another Record

Postby Leanan » Mon 26 Nov 2007, 14:51:49

I think they are referring to the Petrologistics report:

Crude Oil Futures Decline on Signs OPEC Is Increasing Output

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Crude oil fell on signs that OPEC is increasing production to reduce record prices and keep the global economy from slowing.

The 12 members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries will probably boost supply 1.1 percent to 31.6 million barrels a day this month, according to preliminary estimates by PetroLogistics Ltd. The producer group agreed in September to raise production by 500,000 barrels a day starting Nov. 1.

``The Petrologistics numbers are showing a good-size build in OPEC output,'' said Tim Evans, an analyst with Citigroup Global Markets Inc. in New York. ``Most of the increase is from Iraq, which is fairly encouraging.''


Personally, I don't see most of the increase coming from Iraq as a good sign. Yes, there's a lull in the violence now, which has allowed oil production to increase. But there have been plenty such lulls in the past. They were temporary, followed by a surge in attacks. I see no reason to assume it's different this time.
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Re: Another Record

Postby kevincarter » Mon 26 Nov 2007, 15:11:12

Now boys and girls listen, oil was just at 98.50 so as usual its time for a nice bed story: long long long time ago in a far, far and distant place there were the good members of the OPEC, they kept increasing oil production up and up with their magic pumps so the world economy could keep going on for ever. Nothing could stop them, for they had the secret powers of petroleum production...

Now back to reality
They announced a boost and oil went down one miserable dollar.

I would like to knock on their heads and say "Hello Mc Fly, are you there? Anyobody home?!!!!"
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Re: Another Record

Postby Revi » Mon 26 Nov 2007, 16:06:17

It dipped big time, and is now climbing back to almost where it was this morning.
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Re: Another Record

Postby eastbay » Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:02:54

Great bedtime story kevincarter. That was hilarious.

Stories like that allow me to smile when the energy sector dips like it did today.
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Re: Another Record

Postby frankthetank » Wed 28 Nov 2007, 15:57:10

Down big time.

91.10 last i checked.

TO be expected. This whole process is going to be a series of ups and downs. I wouldn't mind if it dropped back down to the $50 level.
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Re: Another Record

Postby thor » Wed 28 Nov 2007, 17:03:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'D')own big time.

91.10 last i checked.

TO be expected. This whole process is going to be a series of ups and downs. I wouldn't mind if it dropped back down to the $50 level.


You can forget $50. The whole thing is just volatile and there remains supply tightness.
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Re: Another Record

Postby gnm » Wed 28 Nov 2007, 19:12:38

LOL the latest explanation on bloomborg is that the oil price plummeted because inventory declines (while still declining) were less bad than expected.

so less bad (while still bad) is good...

8O

This is like the twilight zone...

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Re: Another Record

Postby funzone36 » Wed 28 Nov 2007, 19:13:59

How are you guys more prepared than those who are unaware of peak oil if each and every day, you are just using a computer without any long-term preparation for peak oil?
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Re: Another Record

Postby Valdemar » Wed 28 Nov 2007, 19:23:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('funzone36', 'H')ow are you guys more prepared than those who are unaware of peak oil if each and every day, you are just using a computer without any long-term preparation for peak oil?


Oh really? And in your world, I suppose, one cannot both discuss and plan for such an event simultaneously.

There are a great many people here and on other sites and in real-life who are discussing this subject and planning for the worst. Do not make the mistake of thinking we're a peanut gallery watching the trainwreck unfold without moving to the exit.

In any case, this large fall in the price of oil is to be expected. OPEC has gone from a stance against raising output, to one where they guarantee it. The short-sighted traders take this at face value and believe them. When they can't deliver - or can't deliver consistently - then the game is up.
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Re: Another Record

Postby eastbay » Wed 28 Nov 2007, 21:09:05

This 'raise production' nonsense can only placate the markets for a short time. Then, like the boy who cried wolf, such ridiculous announcements will be widely ignored or ridiculed by both the public and the markets.

$100 and then $150 oil isn't very far off.
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Re: Another Record

Postby thor » Thu 29 Nov 2007, 14:22:13

Oil dropped to $91.60, so there's plenty of crude to continue our party.
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Re: Another Record

Postby VinceG » Fri 30 Nov 2007, 11:40:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('thor', 'O')il dropped to $91.60, [s]so there's plenty of crude to continue our party[/s].


$88.94!
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Re: Another Record

Postby whereagles » Fri 30 Nov 2007, 12:14:06

This sure is another record. A 10 dollar PLUNGE in 3 days :)
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Re: Another Record

Postby Eli » Fri 30 Nov 2007, 12:33:41

Look for further drops in oil guys, I think 100 a barrel is aways off now unless something happens.

What we are seeing are clear signs that a recession has gripped the US. The street sees that as meaning less demand, hence the sell off.

It will be interesting to see the over the next few weeks, commodities have been a consistent bright spot in a turbulent market, take that away and things will get even more shaky.

We are in a time right now where bad does = good for some on wall St they see that as another fed cut.
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Re: Another Record

Postby Armageddon » Fri 30 Nov 2007, 12:56:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'L')ook for further drops in oil guys, I think 100 a barrel is aways off now unless something happens.

What we are seeing are clear signs that a recession has gripped the US. The street sees that as meaning less demand, hence the sell off.

It will be interesting to see the over the next few weeks, commodities have been a consistent bright spot in a turbulent market, take that away and things will get even more shaky.

We are in a time right now where bad does = good for some on wall St they see that as another fed cut.


I am sure whatever oil the US doesn't use during an economic slowdown, China and India will gladly make up, depending on price of coarse.
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Re: Another Record

Postby dohboi » Fri 30 Nov 2007, 14:42:35

Quote:

"This sure is another record. A 10 dollar PLUNGE in 3 days."

Is this another sign that we are inside the "bumpy plateau" that was so widely discussed and debated a while back on these threads? Would the drop have been steeper without the MN pipeline accident?
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Re: Another Record

Postby Starvid » Fri 30 Nov 2007, 15:03:02

Remember the summer of 2006 when oil prices peaked at the immense level of $78.40, before falling back to $60:ish?

If oil goes back to about $78, it will be hugely entertaining to compare the media rhetoric at $78 of 2007 (or 2008) with that of $78 2006. :lol:
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Re: Another Record

Postby Twilight » Fri 30 Nov 2007, 17:32:50

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"Not so long ago oil was only $110! Why doesn't the government do something?!"
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