[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'A')nyone ever consider the need for a union of taxpayers to negotiate when the gov gets out of hand, sort of like a union that negotiates with management at a company?

Just imagine a taxpayer union. The gov decides to act like crap. Then the taxpayer union orders a 5 million man march on DC.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')The "union of taxpayers" is called "citizenship."

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', 'T')hey should just have the elections on EBAY. That way we could see who the high bidder was and what they paid for each one.

[Jotapay]

I think corporations and PACs should be barred from donating to politicians. Or else corporations should just be outlawed. This is a national security issue as our country is literally dying while these corporations gut the USA.

[Homesteader]

Corporations should be stripped of all rights and priviledges accorded to a natural person, to think otherwise is amoral.

[efarmer]

I pledge allegiance to the logos,
of the Corporate States of America,
and to the products for which it stands,
One conglomerate, with high yields,
With dividends and bonuses for some.

I am going to call President Cramer and get my
questions answered when they do the lightning
round in the Oval Office.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'W')ell, whatever regs they had in place weren't doing much to stop a lot of the activities you guys are saying is going to happen. I don't think it will be as bad (relative to the current system) as everyone thinks. Local elections are won by standard retail politics and won't be affected and I think the state candidates will be vulnerable if it is exposed that they are getting huge support from an outside or unpopular coporate entity. The national level election is all cartoon politics anyway.

I'd prefer a system that allows any amount and source of contribution, but requires full disclosure (whatever that can be made to mean).

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', 'C')orporations should be stripped of all rights and priviledges accorded to a natural person, to think otherwise is amoral.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')The "union of taxpayers" is called "citizenship."

[Homesteader]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', 'C')orporations should be stripped of all rights and priviledges accorded to a natural person, to think otherwise is amoral.

[rangerone314]

Organize a citizen's union of several million people to have "blue flu" on a given day or go on strike against the politicians.

Power company employees, air traffic controllers, computer network operators, cell phone company employees, truckers who deliver gasoline, limosine and taxi drivers.

Completely shut everything down.

We need to establish a 4th branch of government that represents the people and is not answerable to the other 3 branches.

Any institution that is part of the problem and has a vested interest in not solving the problem, cannot be part of the solution.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'O')rganize a citizen's union of several million people to have "blue flu" on a given day or go on strike against the politicians.

Power company employees, air traffic controllers, computer network operators, cell phone company employees, truckers who deliver gasoline, limosine and taxi drivers.

Completely shut everything down.

We need to establish a 4th branch of government that represents the people and is not answerable to the other 3 branches.

Any institution that is part of the problem and has a vested interest in not solving the problem, cannot be part of the solution.

[Roy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '�')��If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better then the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen”

[pablonite]

I hate to say it but I think maritime-banking-international law has been running the world for a very long time. In fact, I would go so far as to say this built government to give the people an illusion to cling to.

We may be moving into a new reality and that would be accepting this fact.

The only real and authentic government is one that is composed of the people.

Imagine an America where people were just plucked out of the population through a lottery to fill governmnet positions for a set time, say 2 years. Everyone from banksters to people living on the street. Heh, can you imagine what the senate would look like? There would be some serious change rather quickly.

This form of government has been used before and was quite successful!

There is no such government on the planet anymore and there hasn't been for some time. I think fear of your government will be the standard for years to come, when that government becomes global in scope so will the fear

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'O')rganize a citizen's union of several million people to have "blue flu" on a given day or go on strike against the politicians.

Power company employees, air traffic controllers, computer network operators, cell phone company employees, truckers who deliver gasoline, limosine and taxi drivers.

Completely shut everything down.

We need to establish a 4th branch of government that represents the people and is not answerable to the other 3 branches.

Any institution that is part of the problem and has a vested interest in not solving the problem, cannot be part of the solution.

[Homesteader]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', 'C')onsume all their cr@p so resources they depend on are exhausted and then they go bankupt!
Yeah, that'll work!

[ALBY]

striking for another paid holiday or more governement largesse is hardly a brave thing.

wake up 'progressives'.

mcain feingold was BAD legislation. it violated the 1st amendment (1st for a reason) of the US constitution.

we've had 35 years of campaign finance reform and I can hardly imagine things being worse than they are now. look at the curve for campaign spending since nixon. it's gone parbolic.

we have the best government money can buy. this is more a reflection of the role of government in our lives than anything else. big governement makes it easy to control us. most of our elected representatives can be bought for 'half a can of bacon grease' (obscure deadwood reference). buying us one at a time would be more expensive and harder to accomplish.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ALBY', 's')triking for another paid holiday or more governement largesse is hardly a brave thing.

wake up 'progressives'.

mcain feingold was BAD legislation. it violated the 1st amendment (1st for a reason) of the US constitution.

we've had 35 years of campaign finance reform and I can hardly imagine things being worse than they are now. look at the curve for campaign spending since nixon. it's gone parbolic.

we have the best government money can buy. this is more a reflection of the role of government in our lives than anything else. big governement makes it easy to control us. most of our elected representatives can be bought for 'half a can of bacon grease' (obscure deadwood reference). buying us one at a time would be more expensive and harder to accomplish.