Donate Bitcoin

Donate Paypal


PeakOil is You

PeakOil is You

THE United Nations (UN) Thread (merged)

What's on your mind?
General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

Re: UN STARVES GAZANS!!!

Unread postby shortonsense » Sat 07 Feb 2009, 12:17:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', 'W')e cant let Israel have all the fun, can we?

UN DENIES CRITICAL AID



The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) on Friday said it is suspending humanitarian aid in Gaza until further notice, after Hamas seized control of its warehouses and stole 200 tons of food and supplies.


No surprise here, from either side.

The good news is that the more Palestinians in their homeland of Gaza who starve, means there will be fewer the Israeli's have to expend bullets on the next time they invade. From a strictly resource depletion perspective, this must be considered a win-win?
Last edited by shortonsense on Sat 07 Feb 2009, 17:26:14, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
shortonsense
Permanently Banned
 
Posts: 3124
Joined: Sat 30 Aug 2008, 03:00:00

Re: UN STARVES GAZANS!!!

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 07 Feb 2009, 13:22:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')Is soylent green Halal?


If suicide bombing is Halal, then the religious fundamentalists who run Hamas can surely find a rationale for ruling that pork-free soylent green is also Halal.
User avatar
Plantagenet
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 26765
Joined: Mon 09 Apr 2007, 03:00:00
Location: Alaska (its much bigger than Texas).

Re: UN STARVES GAZANS!!!

Unread postby kam3Oen » Sun 08 Feb 2009, 05:02:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')f course. In reality, it's extremely harmful to get off of aid. It could be quite disasterous for Gaza. Politically, not so much. On the other hand, it could be two thumbs up from a PO view point. Can't have a 3% population growth rate if there's no food.


You're on here whining about a few hundred dead arabs, when you believe most of the region will starve to death in the near future anyway. Am I missing something, or does this seem pointless. What are you trying to accomplish, besides pointing out a single turd in the cesspool that is the world.
User avatar
kam3Oen
Peat
Peat
 
Posts: 163
Joined: Sun 09 Sep 2007, 03:00:00

Calls For Expanded UN in Financial Crisis

Unread postby deMolay » Sun 08 Feb 2009, 10:22:14

This would be a total disaster. Can you say direct taxation by an unelected bunch of despots. http://en.ce.cn/subject/financialcrisis ... 0768.shtml
"We Are All Travellers, From The Sweet Grass To The Packing House, From Birth To Death, We Wander Between The Two Eternities". An Old Cowboy.
User avatar
deMolay
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 2671
Joined: Sun 04 Sep 2005, 03:00:00

U.N. panel says world should ditch dollar

Unread postby mattduke » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 20:34:08

LUXEMBOURG (Reuters) - A U.N. panel will next week recommend that the world ditch the dollar as its reserve currency in favor of a shared basket of currencies, a member of the panel said on Wednesday, adding to pressure on the dollar.

Currency specialist Avinash Persaud, a member of the panel of experts, told a Reuters Funds Summit in Luxembourg that the proposal was to create something like the old Ecu, or European currency unit, that was a hard-traded, weighted basket.

Persaud, chairman of consultants Intelligence Capital and a former currency chief at JPMorgan, said the recommendation would be one of a number delivered to the United Nations on March 25 by the U.N. Commission of Experts on International Financial Reform.

"It is a good moment to move to a shared reserve currency," he said.

reuters
User avatar
mattduke
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 3591
Joined: Fri 28 Oct 2005, 03:00:00

Re: U.N. panel says world should ditch dollar

Unread postby Tanada » Fri 20 Mar 2009, 04:52:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'L')UXEMBOURG (Reuters) - A U.N. panel will next week recommend that the world ditch the dollar as its reserve currency in favor of a shared basket of currencies, a member of the panel said on Wednesday, adding to pressure on the dollar.

Currency specialist Avinash Persaud, a member of the panel of experts, told a Reuters Funds Summit in Luxembourg that the proposal was to create something like the old Ecu, or European currency unit, that was a hard-traded, weighted basket.

Persaud, chairman of consultants Intelligence Capital and a former currency chief at JPMorgan, said the recommendation would be one of a number delivered to the United Nations on March 25 by the U.N. Commission of Experts on International Financial Reform.

"It is a good moment to move to a shared reserve currency," he said.

reuters


IOW the Fed and the Treasury have now managed to destroy confidence in the US Dollar and as a result the USA is about to lose its status as world leader. This has happenned to many countries over the course of the last 500 years, most recently the UK pound was the world reserve currency until shouldered aside by the US Dollar. When the pound ceased to be the reserve currency the UK ceased to be an Empire, though the effects were over the course of a decade, not over night.

A basket of currencies has no advantage over any other fiat currency from a single country, only a sound currency can end the money bubbles.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Alfred Tennyson', 'W')e are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tanada
Site Admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 17094
Joined: Thu 28 Apr 2005, 03:00:00
Location: South West shore Lake Erie, OH, USA
Top

THE United Nations (UN) Thread (merged)

Unread postby deMolay » Tue 17 Nov 2009, 06:20:04

The parasitic UN has dropped its opposition to the scooping up farmland in poor countries. link
"We Are All Travellers, From The Sweet Grass To The Packing House, From Birth To Death, We Wander Between The Two Eternities". An Old Cowboy.
User avatar
deMolay
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 2671
Joined: Sun 04 Sep 2005, 03:00:00

Re: Parasitic UN Backs Off On Land Grab By Rich Nations

Unread postby Dr. Ofellati » Tue 17 Nov 2009, 08:11:37

Good post.
We're looking at world-wide revolution at some point.
Dr. O
The Mos theorem - Those who do not reach my conclusions after having reviewed the evidence are either deniers, if they reject my conclusion, or conspiracy theorists, if I reject theirs.
User avatar
Dr. Ofellati
Lignite
Lignite
 
Posts: 236
Joined: Thu 22 Oct 2009, 12:26:37

Re: Parasitic UN Backs Off On Land Grab By Rich Nations

Unread postby rangerone314 » Tue 17 Nov 2009, 10:59:35

Why does this remind me of how Ireland starved in the 19th century because of a potato famine, while Ireland was still exporting grain and vegetables to England because England owned the farmland in Ireland?

This trend is not going to end well.
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown

Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
User avatar
rangerone314
Light Sweet Crude
Light Sweet Crude
 
Posts: 4105
Joined: Wed 03 Dec 2008, 04:00:00
Location: Maryland

Re: Parasitic UN Backs Off On Land Grab By Rich Nations

Unread postby deMolay » Tue 17 Nov 2009, 16:02:14

Carving Up Africa For Food and Fuel. Should these countries not now shoulder the food aid for these countries? http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6729.5250.0.0
"We Are All Travellers, From The Sweet Grass To The Packing House, From Birth To Death, We Wander Between The Two Eternities". An Old Cowboy.
User avatar
deMolay
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 2671
Joined: Sun 04 Sep 2005, 03:00:00

UN: Cash from organized crime ‘rescued’ banks during crisis

Unread postby Sixstrings » Wed 16 Dec 2009, 08:32:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he vast majority of an estimated $352 billion in proceeds of organized crime, mostly from the drug trade, was funneled through the global banking system during the financial crisis of the past two years, and in some cases, the money rescued banks from collapse, says the head of the UN Office on Drugs and Crime.

Antonio Maria Costa told the UK Observer that intelligence agencies and prosecutors alerted him 18 months ago to evidence that drug money was being "absorbed into the financial system."

"In many instances, the money from drugs was the only liquid investment capital," Costa said. "In the second half of 2008, liquidity was the banking system's main problem and hence liquid capital became an important factor."

The Observer reports:

Some of the evidence put before his office indicated that gang money was used to save some banks from collapse when lending seized up, [Costa] said.

"Inter-bank loans were funded by money that originated from the drugs trade and other illegal activities... There were signs that some banks were rescued that way." Costa declined to identify countries or banks that may have received any drugs money, saying that would be inappropriate because his office is supposed to address the problem, not apportion blame. But he said the money is now a part of the official system and had been effectively laundered.
Gangs are now believed to make most of their profits from the drugs trade and are estimated to be worth £352bn, the UN says. They have traditionally kept proceeds in cash or moved it offshore to hide it from the authorities. It is understood that evidence that drug money has flowed into banks came from officials in Britain, Switzerland, Italy and the US.
Read the complete Observer article here.

Costa has been head of the UN's drug and crime office since 2002, and is known for his tough stance on illicit drugs, including marijuana. He recently warned that Africa is becoming a major drug hub, following an investigation into the crash of a Boeing 727 in Mali that had flown in from Venezuela carrying 10 tons of cocaine.

http://rawstory.com/2009/12/crime-rescued-banks/

So are we lucky the War on Drugs was never successful, as it turned out we needed all that dirty money to grease the gears of global banking at the height of the crisis?

I never thought I'd see a headline like this, "Drug Money Saved Us." Honestly, I do not understand the world anymore. Well, actually I do understand the world -- governments and corporations are corrupt, there is no truth only propaganda.
User avatar
Sixstrings
Fusion
Fusion
 
Posts: 15160
Joined: Tue 08 Jul 2008, 03:00:00
Top

Re: UN: Cash from organized crime ‘rescued’ banks during crisis

Unread postby efarmer » Wed 16 Dec 2009, 12:43:44

Once I had a railroad, made it run,
Made it race against time.
Once I had a railroad, now it's done.
Goombah, can you spare a dime?
User avatar
efarmer
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 2003
Joined: Fri 17 Mar 2006, 04:00:00

Re: UN: Cash from organized crime ‘rescued’ banks during crisis

Unread postby SheikYarbhouti » Wed 16 Dec 2009, 14:19:25

This all ties in nicely with the CIA cocaine planes and the dramatic increase in Afghan opium production since American ingress. 93% of the world's heroin isn't getting out of that country on donkeys alone...
User avatar
SheikYarbhouti
Wood
Wood
 
Posts: 34
Joined: Sun 27 Jan 2008, 04:00:00

Re: UN: Cash from organized crime ‘rescued’ banks during crisis

Unread postby americandream » Wed 16 Dec 2009, 16:15:08

The "invisible hand" of the free market at work. :)
americandream
Permanently Banned
 
Posts: 8650
Joined: Mon 18 Oct 2004, 03:00:00

Re: UN: Cash from organized crime ‘rescued’ banks during crisis

Unread postby ian807 » Wed 16 Dec 2009, 16:48:32

And does this surprise anyone.

Does anyone seriously think that the world's wealthiest people give a rat's patoot? Money is money, and to them, we are merely expendable peasants.
User avatar
ian807
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 899
Joined: Mon 03 Nov 2008, 04:00:00

Re: UN: Cash from organized crime ‘rescued’ banks during crisis

Unread postby americandream » Wed 16 Dec 2009, 17:54:35

When greed is a virtue, is it any surprise?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ian807', 'A')nd does this surprise anyone.

Does anyone seriously think that the world's wealthiest people give a rat's patoot? Money is money, and to them, we are merely expendable peasants.
americandream
Permanently Banned
 
Posts: 8650
Joined: Mon 18 Oct 2004, 03:00:00
Top

Re: UN: Cash from organized crime ‘rescued’ banks during crisis

Unread postby Revi » Wed 16 Dec 2009, 18:10:37

Remember Iran/Contra? Drug money has always underpinned the world financial system. All wars are for G.O.D., gold oil or drugs.

At least they finally did something useful with the money.

Our whole Las Vegas economy may have come crashing down otherwise.
Deep in the mud and slime of things, even there, something sings.
User avatar
Revi
Light Sweet Crude
Light Sweet Crude
 
Posts: 7417
Joined: Mon 25 Apr 2005, 03:00:00
Location: Maine

Re: UN: Cash from organized crime ‘rescued’ banks during crisis

Unread postby Ferretlover » Wed 23 Dec 2009, 13:41:18

Guideline for the Economics & Finance Forum:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')color=blue] Economics & Finance[/color] Discussions about the economic and financial ramifications of hydrocarbon depletion.

Please post accordingly.
Thank you.
"Open the gates of hell!" ~Morgan Freeman's character in the movie, Olympus Has Fallen.
Ferretlover
Elite
Elite
 
Posts: 5852
Joined: Wed 13 Jun 2007, 03:00:00
Location: Hundreds of miles further inland
Top

Re: Half of humanity to be in cities soon, U.N. says

Unread postby Tanada » Sun 07 Feb 2010, 22:04:23

Based on the news reports I have heard this last week over half of world population does indeed now live in urban settings.

What all those people do to support their existence was not talked about much, but I know in Detroit the majority of the population inside the city are either retired or living with public assistance income.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Alfred Tennyson', 'W')e are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tanada
Site Admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 17094
Joined: Thu 28 Apr 2005, 03:00:00
Location: South West shore Lake Erie, OH, USA
Top

UN Starts Resource War: DR Congo

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Wed 03 Mar 2010, 20:33:04

Over the weekend the United Nations attacked (backed attacks on) multiple Rwandan rebel camps in eastern Democratic Republic (sic) of the Congo.
What does this mean? Is the USA being surplanted as the resource warrior for the world? It sure looks that way.
Congo was once the worlds biggest supplier of Cobalt, as well as a major source of copper and nickel.
It is believed by many to have the world's largest reserves of cobalt, a key resource in specialised electronics as well as the well known blue glass and pottery.
Is this a one off or the thin edge of the wedge? I don't recall the UN instigating offensive missions. What happened to it's peacekeeper role?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... ion=justin

Edit to add this prelude from the LA Times

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jan/29 ... -2010jan29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')January 29, 2010
The United Nations peacekeeping mission in Congo is close to losing all credibility. On its 10-year watch, millions of Congolese have been killed or displaced, raped or forced to toil in mines for precious minerals. The U.N. troops, known as MONUC, certainly are not to blame for those atrocities or for the country's civil strife -- rebels from neighboring Rwanda are mostly at fault. But Congolese soldiers fighting the Democratic Liberation Forces of Rwanda, or FDLR, also have been accused of persecuting civilians, and they, unlike the rebels, have had the logistical support of troops provided by the U.N.
SeaGypsy
Master Prognosticator
Master Prognosticator
 
Posts: 9285
Joined: Wed 04 Feb 2009, 04:00:00
Top

PreviousNext

Return to Open Topic Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

cron