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Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby deMolay » Wed 04 Nov 2009, 21:02:44

Boy the Dems under Obama are sure getting extreme. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/11 ... ps-report/
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby Novus » Wed 04 Nov 2009, 21:22:36

Sounds like the start of America's SS or KGB though this new Agency of Assassins goes beyond either of those historical horrors. Never in the history of the world had a major state sponsored an organization whose mission goal was assassination.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby HeckuvaJob » Wed 04 Nov 2009, 22:31:35

The term "manhunt" does ring a bell. Now where have I heard that before...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')ulitzer Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh reveals how a new Special Forces group assembled to “neutralize” Iraqi resistance is working with Israeli commandoes to train in assassination and other tactics – comparable to the Phoenix Program in Vietnam. One of the key planners is Lt Gen. William Boykin who declared that Bush was not elected but appointed by God.

“The revitalized Special Forces mission is a policy victory for Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who has struggled for two years to get the military leadership to accept the strategy of what he calls ‘Manhunts’ — a phrase that he has used both publicly and in internal Pentagon communications. Rumsfeld has had to change much of the Pentagon’s leadership to get his way. “Knocking off two regimes allows us to do extraordinary things,” a Pentagon adviser told me, referring to Afghanistan and Iraq.

“One step the Pentagon took was to seek active and secret help in the war against the Iraqi insurgency from Israel, America’s closest ally in the Middle East. According to American and Israeli military and intelligence officials, Israeli commandos and intelligence units have been working closely with their American counterparts at the Special Forces training base at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and in Israel to help them prepare for operations in Iraq.”

"This is basically an assassination programme. That is what is being conceptualised here. This is a hunter-killer team," said a former senior US intelligence official, who added that he feared the new tactics and enhanced cooperation with Israel would only inflame a volatile situation in the Middle East.

"It is bonkers, insane. Here we are - we're already being compared to Sharon in the Arab world, and we've just confirmed it by bringing in the Israelis and setting up assassination teams."
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby HeckuvaJob » Wed 04 Nov 2009, 22:40:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'N')ever in the history of the world had a major state sponsored an organization whose mission goal was assassination.

Correct, as long as Israel is a minor state.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')peration Wrath of God also called Operation Bayonet, was a covert operation directed by Israel and the Mossad to assassinate individuals alleged to have been directly or indirectly involved in the 1972 Munich massacre.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby Novus » Wed 04 Nov 2009, 23:48:08

The Mossad does do assassinations but that is not the mission goal of Mossad. An entire agency that does nothing but assassinations is unheard of and without precedent.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby eastbay » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 00:17:07

If it's another scheme to kill more you can be certain a liberal is behind it. This is no surprise to me. No one should be surprised at this.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby Roy » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 10:02:12

How would the mass of Americans feel if they knew other countries, like Russia or Iran for instance, were financing hit squads to foment regime changes in countries they felt were impairing their national agendas? Like here in the states, for example? Say there were targeting certain hawkish congressmen or oligarchs?

I think they would consider it an act of war. As would I.

The double standards our government uses when it comes to foreign policy are outrageous. And perhaps even more outrageous is the way the people here just accept the message and don't ask questions like "what if I was in their shoes".

I guess it goes back to our 'me first' mentality here, which I suppose you could say is carefully cultivated by our media and consumer culture.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby rangerone314 » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 10:26:03

The Army has a good video game/simulation "America's Army".

If we actually do develop some sort of "Agency of Assassins", maybe they could make a similar downloadable computer game for that, too.

If they kept track of really good players in that game, we could have a nice recruiting tool, like "The Last Starfighter"....
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby HeckuvaJob » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 11:30:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'T')he Army has a good video game/simulation "America's Army".
If we actually do develop some sort of "Agency of Assassins", maybe they could make a similar downloadable computer game for that, too.
If they kept track of really good players in that game, we could have a nice recruiting tool, like "The Last Starfighter"....

That's how we get our drone pilots.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')e was actually a high school dropout who wanted to join the military to make his father proud. He wanted to be a helicopter mechanic. And they said, “Well, you failed your high school English course, so you’re not qualified to be a mechanic. But would you like to be a drone pilot?” And he said, “Sure.” And it turned out, because of playing on video games, he was already good at it. He was naturally trained up. And he turned out to be so good that they brought him back from Iraq and made him an instructor in the training academy, even though he’s an enlisted man and he’s still—he was nineteen.

And the fascinating thing is, you go, “That’s an interesting story.” You tell that story to someone in the Air Force, like an F-15 pilot, and they go, “I do not like where this is headed. You know, I’ve got a college education. The military spent $5 million training me up. And you’re telling me that this kid, this nineteen-year-old—and, oh, by the way, he’s in the Army—is doing more than I am?” And that’s the reality of it.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 11:49:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'I')f it's another scheme to kill more


I'd rather have precision assassinations of high-level al-qaeda than bombs that take out entire safe-houses.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby eastbay » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 11:51:53

Mos, I think these sicko's in the White House will give the world both. And more.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 11:52:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', 'H')ow would the mass of Americans feel if they knew other countries, like Russia or Iran for instance, were financing hit squads to foment regime changes


Where does the words "regime change" occur in this article?

A big argument against "the war on terror" was that it should have been a police action rather than an all out invasion. This is what it would have looked like! Small delta-force type teams going in and you can bet it's almost impossible to take these guys alive.
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Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 11:53:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'M')os, I think these sicko's in the White House will give the world both. And more.


Well, if you think so, it must be true.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby HeckuvaJob » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 11:54:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'A')n entire agency that does nothing but assassinations is unheard of and without precedent.

Using your definition, could such an agency even exist? since it would by necessity also need to engage in reconnaissance, intelligence gathering, surveillance, target acquisition, infiltration, etc. You know - just like our CIA and special forces and drone pilots are currently doing throughout the world.

Or, would a member of the proposed Assassination Agency tag along simply to pull the trigger or push the button?
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby eastbay » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 11:55:25

You think they'll quit bombing homes in Pakistan once the hit squads are sent out? No. This house bombing and the plan for hit squads is happening because liberals demand it.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 12:48:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HeckuvaJob', '
')Or, would a member of the proposed Assassination Agency tag along simply to pull the trigger or push the button?


Clinton had Osama in our sights and we chose not to push the button. I see a lot of hand-wringing over the ethical dilemma of spying organizations but really, it could have saved countless lives in the end had we used them properly.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby Jotapay » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 13:28:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HeckuvaJob', '
')Or, would a member of the proposed Assassination Agency tag along simply to pull the trigger or push the button?


Clinton had Osama in our sights and we chose not to push the button. I see a lot of hand-wringing over the ethical dilemma of spying organizations but really, it could have saved countless lives in the end had we used them properly.


Sibel Edmonds gave testimony about 3 weeks ago where she stated that Osama Bin Ladin was on the CIA payroll right up until 9/11. That's why he wasn't taken out by Clinton. Sibel Edmonds was an FBI translator and came forward with the info, claiming federal whistleblower status. John Ashcroft put a federal gag order on her for 5 years, which just expired recently. When you start to consider everything that this implies, it blows up the cute little picture our government tries to paint for us about who our leaders are.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby rangerone314 » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 14:08:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HeckuvaJob', '
')Or, would a member of the proposed Assassination Agency tag along simply to pull the trigger or push the button?


Clinton had Osama in our sights and we chose not to push the button. I see a lot of hand-wringing over the ethical dilemma of spying organizations but really, it could have saved countless lives in the end had we used them properly.


Sibel Edmonds gave testimony about 3 weeks ago where she stated that Osama Bin Ladin was on the CIA payroll right up until 9/11. That's why he wasn't taken out by Clinton. Sibel Edmonds was an FBI translator and came forward with the info, claiming federal whistleblower status. John Ashcroft put a federal gag order on her for 5 years, which just expired recently. When you start to consider everything that this implies, it blows up the cute little picture our government tries to paint for us about who our leaders are.


Interesting interview with Sibel Edmonds:
http://amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/
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