[ColossalContrarian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'T')he natives are getting restless..

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/08/hundreds-pack-boisterous-town-hall-meeting/

[Cloud9]

younguns, God lovem.

[ECM]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'T')he natives are getting restless..

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/08/hundreds-pack-boisterous-town-hall-meeting/

[lordoverhack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ECM', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'T')he natives are getting restless..

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/08/hundreds-pack-boisterous-town-hall-meeting/

[vision-master]

I never thought I would smell BS through my computer, but some nasty farts just snuck through my router.

I take it when your pets get too old, you shoot em in the head, correct.

[AlexdeLarge]

They are probably racists too.......................

[Caffeine]

1) I'm not 100% sure I'll make it to the age of the guy in that photo. Sure, I'd like to, but between peak oil, collapse of fisheries, general degredation of the planetary environment, etc... I dunno.

2) I don't think it's right to demonize the elderly. If you ever watch those TV shows about indigenous peoples, living at a Stone Age level of technology... at least some of them don't hesitate to take care of old people, even those who are too sickly to hunt/fish/etc. for themselves. With that being the case, it's a shame that modern-day society isn't always that great at taking care of old people.

[HumbleScribe]

The US spends 17% of GDP on healthcare, compared to an average 10% in Europe, yet 46 million Americans have no health insurance.
It's no wonder you rednecks are worried about riots on the streets...

[Arsenal]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HumbleScribe', 'I')t's no wonder you rednecks are worried about riots on the streets...

[3aidlillahi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'y')et 46 million Americans have no health insurance.

[AlexdeLarge]

[Cloud9]

"...who would have thought that the sober, deliberative Barack Obama would have nothing to propose but vague and slippery promises -- or that he would so easily cede the leadership clout of the executive branch to a chaotic, rapacious, solipsistic Congress? House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, whom I used to admire for her smooth aplomb under pressure, has clearly gone off the deep end with her bizarre rants about legitimate town-hall protests by American citizens. She is doing grievous damage to the party and should immediately step down."

http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/200 ... own_halls/

[AlexdeLarge]

The Astroturf Kid (Kids as Human Shields)
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/11/little-girl-at-obama-town-hall-has-not-so-random-political-connections/

Little girl at Obama town hall has not-so-random political connections

[gollum]

The theory that government run health care will work is dubious at best. However republican opposition on fiscal or philosophical grounds is comical to say the least. During the last eight years the Republicans thought that the government should snoop in our e mail, phone calls and mail, Run a prescription drug program, run our local schools, and give the bankster class 12 trillion in bailouts and credit. Now that they are out of power they have discovered the merits of small government and free enterprise. Obama's health care is estimated to cost a trillion which pales in comparison to what the republicans gave the bankers. To me republicans have lost all credibility as anything but a party of the rich out to help the rich

[rangerone314]

Questions!!!!!!!!!

#1) Why does the legislation NOT have tort reform to limit medical malpractice lawsuits? Seems sort of necessary if you are SERIOUS about reducing health costs.

#2) Why does the legislation NOT have standardized fee schedules like they have in Japan, where specific treatments have specific and universal maximum prices? Seems like THAT would limit costs also.

#3) How about SLOWING down the pace of the most cutting edge technology in medicine so that LESS goes into R&D for the most advanced treatments (that benefit like 0.1% of the population). Maybe more money could be allocated elsewhere. About half of the increased cost in medicine over several decades has been due to the technology.
#3b) Also re-organize the way medical facilities "compete" so that there is not incentive for every facility to have the most expensive equipment when fewer equipment could service the same area. (that would reduce the overhead costs that get figured into the bill)

#4) How about ascertaining the citizenship of non-citizens receiving health care and forcing those countries to foot the bill? (If they don't like it we can talk about asset seizure or banana embargos)

But what do I know. I'm not a member of Congress.

[hope_full]

http://www.lonelyconservative.com/2009/ ... nt-page-1/


At the town hall (facilitated by Democrat Sheila Lee Jackson on 8.13.09), a woman (magically placed on the front row center of the crowd) stood up and announced that she was a physician. Jackson applauded her and invited the audience to do the same. Next, the woman stated that she and her colleagues were very much in favor of Obama's health care plan.

Turns out, she is not a physician. However, she does work for Obama.

Apparently, the president is weary of Americans' outrage over this health care plan so he's decided that it's time to lie, cheat and steal to get the plan turned into law.

So much for these town halls being honest reflections of Americans' feelings and opinions.

[Cloud9]

Guys how many times do you have to be skinned before you realize it’s the same old tune; the only thing that changes is the mouth piece.

[AlexdeLarge]

[vision-master]

A man walks into a Doctor’s office. He has a cucumber up his nose, a carrot in his left ear and a banana in his right ear.

“What’s the matter with me?” he asks.

“You’re not eating properly,” replies the Doctor.

[Voice_du_More]

I actually had the thought the other day that the shouters might be democratic plants, brown-shirts in plaid if you will. So Obama gets these guys to disrupt his own meetings and then rides in on the proverbial white horse.

All I know is I read some of the bill and if it gets past it is the end of America as we know it. It is not simply a government option it is a government takeover of the entire medical establishment in time. What would be really sad is if they think it will catually lower costs. It can't there is not money to cover the 45 trillion dollars it will cost for the baby boomers to retire en mass. The ride is over, please pick up your wrist watches at the door.