[DantesPeak]

Hmmm, I thought this thread was about signs about a possible beginning of a breakdown, but I keep getting told otherwise.

Well being accussed of a prediction I did not yet make, let me make one. Diesel demand is down roughly 12% from last year at this time. Although we might have signs well before that, I don't expect fairly widespread evidence of JIT problems until we get down about 20% to 25% from peak diesel use.

[timmac]

[quote="JJ"]I think some people ARE going to do quite well. But with perhaps one out of five unemployed, they also may soon become targets. It seems that as things continue to contract, these jobs won't be coming back. Granted, we don't need five thousand Build-a-Bear outlets, but what ARE those employees going to do now? Make electric cars? Where are they going to get the money to buy the cars they are making?[quote]
We are heading into a have and have not economy here in America, I do believe there is going to be a high number of folks that will not have jobs for a long long time, but certain things such as the trucking business/jit system will not collapse, yes a lot less build-a-bear stores and such and much smaller auto manufactures but not a out right collapse, however there is going to be a lot more bankruptcies for some time till that levels out.

One needs to keep there options open, such as your kind of work, will it be here tomorrow, what can you do if you get laid off, stay away from debt and put off that new house and car, the game is to stay employed or stay in business such as myself, be ready for change, accept that lower salary if it means staying at work, the game is changing and so should you...

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DantesPeak', 'H')mmm, I thought this thread was about signs about a possible beginning of a breakdown, but I keep getting told otherwise.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd for every trucking company that goes under another one picks up there business and they get better, trucking companies were doing just fine 30-40 years ago when there was less products being deleverd than now, so why should they all go away today ?

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd for every trucking company that goes under another one picks up there business and they get better, trucking companies were doing just fine 30-40 years ago when there was less products being deleverd than now, so why should they all go away today ?

[VMarcHart]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'I') guess we have a couple of months before this thread is totally wrong...

[vision-master]

I hate to be the janitor in your office. I think I'd disable your A/C for a few day's.

[Novus]

It is practically Impossible for JIT to break down internally. For JIT distribution to suffer a breakdown there would have to be an external catalyst. The US consumer for the most part consumes by foreign countries loaning the US money to buy their exports. Since the US does not make much anymore this includes lots of products form: oil, fertilizers, cell phones, textiles, electronics, cars, etc. At some point the exporting countries of the world may decide they will no longer loan the US consumer anymore money to buy their products. At that point all the JIT distribution that involves imported goods would grind to a halt over night. We may not see $300 bread but we might see $500 imported coffee and sugar. Those Chinese made $20 sneakers at Wal-mart will cost $600 after the breakdown.

[Caffeine]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'W')e may not see $300 bread but we might see $500 imported coffee and sugar. Those Chinese made $20 sneakers at Wal-mart will cost $600 after the breakdown.

[frankthetank]

Depends if you buy your bread at a gas station or a food coop!

[Caffeine]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'D')epends if you buy your bread at a gas station or a food coop!

[frankthetank]

My wife had to buy a $4 loaf of bread and i ended up throwing half of it out when it turned all moldy The ingredient list was very short... mostly grains, olive oil and honey. I'm never buying bread again. She can learn how to make it from scratch

Funny story about trucking. A friend of my brothers has been on/off again truck driver. Worked for many different companies. So ... he was in N. Carolina at a truck stop and a colored girl opened up her shirt and pushed her you know whats up in his window and asked him if he was lonely... he said he told that #$*$)( b*$*$* to get off of his truck...

These truckers get all the women.

[Caffeine]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'M')y wife had to buy a $4 loaf of bread and i ended up throwing half of it out when it turned all moldy The ingredient list was very short... mostly grains, olive oil and honey. I'm never buying bread again. She can learn how to make it from scratch

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VMarcHart', 'A')lways consider the source. On Tue Mar 03, 2009...$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('the48thronin', '.')..independent trucks are being let go, the distribution system is falling apart. Maybe that $300 loaf of bread is not as far off as you think.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'M')y wife had to buy a $4 loaf of bread and i ended up throwing half of it out when it turned all moldy The ingredient list was very short... mostly grains, olive oil and honey. I'm never buying bread again. She can learn how to make it from scratch

Funny story about trucking. A friend of my brothers has been on/off again truck driver. Worked for many different companies. So ... he was in N. Carolina at a truck stop and a colored girl opened up her shirt and pushed her you know whats up in his window and asked him if he was lonely... he said he told that #$*$)( b*$*$* to get off of his truck...

These truckers get all the women.

[wisconsin_cur]

Funny thing VM, I have been in that place 100 times, usually on Saturday or Sunday mornings when I have time to kill.

I am the guy with the goatee sitting in the back reading the paper. Be sure to wave next time!

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'F')unny thing VM, I have been in that place 100 times, usually on Saturday or Sunday mornings when I have time to kill.

I am the guy with the goatee sitting in the back reading the paper. Be sure to wave next time!

[frankthetank]

The best bread around here is from Fayzes in downtown La Crosse. They have a cranberry walnut that is addictive. I think a loaf there is $4.50ish... Everything is made right there.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'T')he best bread around here is from Fayzes in downtown La Crosse. They have a cranberry walnut that is addictive. I think a loaf there is $4.50ish... Everything is made right there.

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'B')ack on topic: I have started to hear from people of all walks of life about how a) the aisles are getting bigger at large stores b) the longer time it takes for things to get in stock and c) how much less of everything is on hand. For the first time in 25 years of truck driving my dad is afraid to quit his job because, "there are just too many unemployed truck drivers out there."