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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby TWilliam » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 15:16:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '
')Re-read what I said RE. You have it backwards.


I re-read. You make a distinction between those who come here illegally and send money out of the country and those who come here legally and recirculate money. I see no distinctions made between those who suck MILLIONS from the taxpayers to fund their outrageous consumption versus those who take only thousands to feed their children. So explain to me how I have it backwards? Who is the bigger parasite here, John Thain or a Welfare Mom? Who deserves the greater Punishment?


You said, "I ... felt that you considered the Illegal Aliens and Welfare Moms more the Parasites than the Banksters." I replied, "I don't consider them more parasitical, but that doesn't mean they aren't at all", to which you responded in a manner which indicated you thought I was referring to Banksters. Given the additional context of my following comments, I thought it should be obvious that the pronoun them as I used it referred to Illegal Aliens and Welfare Moms, not to Banksters. The correct substitution would be, "I don't consider Illegal Aliens and Welfare Moms [to be] more parasitical, but that doesn't mean they aren't at all."
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby ReverseEngineer » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 15:21:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '
')Re-read what I said RE. You have it backwards.


I re-read. You make a distinction between those who come here illegally and send money out of the country and those who come here legally and recirculate money. I see no distinctions made between those who suck MILLIONS from the taxpayers to fund their outrageous consumption versus those who take only thousands to feed their children. So explain to me how I have it backwards? Who is the bigger parasite here, John Thain or a Welfare Mom? Who deserves the greater Punishment?


You said, "I ... felt that you considered the Illegal Aliens and Welfare Moms more the Parasites than the Banksters." I replied, "I don't consider them more parasitical, but that doesn't mean they aren't at all", to which you responded in a manner which indicated you thought I was referring to Banksters. Given the additional context of my following comments, I thought it should be obvious that the pronoun them as I used it referred to Illegal Aliens and Welfare Moms, not to Banksters. The correct substitution would be, "I don't consider Illegal Aliens and Welfare Moms [to be] more parasitical, but that doesn't mean they aren't at all."


In other words, you didn't answer the question :-)

I'll explicitly ask it again. Who is more Parasitical, a Bankster or a Welfare Mom?

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby TWilliam » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 15:29:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'T')Willian, I can dig your argument about symbiosis, but what if we all live in symbiosis with a system that is parasitical to earth and nature?

I don't really think we can be parasitic with respect to the Earth, Bas. Ultimately we don't take anything from it; we merely borrow and transmute it into other (temporary) forms. It all gets recycled eventually. As Carlin points out, it's not really the planet that's in jeopardy.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nother argument is that all parasitical behavior is or should be criminal offenses. You can think of stealing and robbing, to taxfraud, selling drugs, running ponzi schemes, illigally dumping industrial waste and lots of other things. Also breaking rules regarding to banking that maybe should've been in place or soon will be can be an example of that.

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby TWilliam » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 15:36:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'I')n other words, you didn't answer the question :-)

I'll explicitly ask it again. Who is more Parasitical, a Bankster or a Welfare Mom?

Jeezus RE. I know you are not that dense. What part of "I don't consider Illegal Aliens and Welfare Moms [to be] more parasitical [than Banksters]" is unclear to you? Are you really incapable of inferring the positive complement to that statement on your own?
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby ReverseEngineer » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 16:18:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'I')n other words, you didn't answer the question :-)

I'll explicitly ask it again. Who is more Parasitical, a Bankster or a Welfare Mom?

Jeezus RE. I know you are not that dense. What part of "I don't consider Illegal Aliens and Welfare Moms [to be] more parasitical [than Banksters]" is unclear to you? Are you really incapable of inferring the positive complement to that statement on your own?


The contrapositive doesn't answer the question. The fact you don't consider Illegal Aliens and Welfare Moms to be MORE parasitical than Bansters does NOT answer whether Banksters are MORE parastical than Welfare Moms and Illegal Aliens. They could be Equally parasitical with this answer.

I'll specify it more. Are Banksters Equally parasitical, More parasitical or Less parasitical than Welfare Moms and Illegal Aliens?

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Ludi » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 16:20:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')As we spin down here, it is clearly important that we establish a solid JUSTICE system to mete out PUNISHMENT that FITS THE CRIME. I support Capital Punishment as a means of LEGAL redress.



Thank you for clarifying. You want it to be legal to kill the parasites.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby ReverseEngineer » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 16:27:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')As we spin down here, it is clearly important that we establish a solid JUSTICE system to mete out PUNISHMENT that FITS THE CRIME. I support Capital Punishment as a means of LEGAL redress.



Thank you for clarifying. You want it to be legal to kill the parasites.


Of course. I don't favor anything which is illegal. Capital Punishment is legal. A better term here than Parasites would be Criminals though. I want it to be legal to kill Criminals who have committed Crimes Against Humanity. Defining who is a Criminal and properly executing the Justice is of course the hard part.

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Ludi » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 16:37:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'C')apital Punishment is legal.



In some places, not all.


Many countries have abolished it.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby TWilliam » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 16:42:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'T')he contrapositive doesn't answer the question. The fact you don't consider Illegal Aliens and Welfare Moms to be MORE parasitical than Bansters does NOT answer whether Banksters are MORE parastical than Welfare Moms and Illegal Aliens. They could be Equally parasitical with this answer.

I'll specify it more. Are Banksters Equally parasitical, More parasitical or Less parasitical than Welfare Moms and Illegal Aliens?

Fine, granted. Tho' the way you originally phrased it implied that 'equally parasitical' was not an option to be considered, therefore my response carried that same implication. I consider Banksters to be more parasitical than Welfare Moms and Illegal Aliens.

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby ReverseEngineer » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 16:49:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'T')he contrapositive doesn't answer the question. The fact you don't consider Illegal Aliens and Welfare Moms to be MORE parasitical than Bansters does NOT answer whether Banksters are MORE parastical than Welfare Moms and Illegal Aliens. They could be Equally parasitical with this answer.

I'll specify it more. Are Banksters Equally parasitical, More parasitical or Less parasitical than Welfare Moms and Illegal Aliens?

Fine, granted. Tho' the way you originally phrased it implied that 'equally parasitical' was not an option to be considered, therefore my response carried that same implication. I consider Banksters to be more parasitical than Welfare Moms and Illegal Aliens.

Happy now? :razz:


Happy as a Pig in Shit, as they say. :-D We fight on the same side of the line then. Just had to make you SAY it.

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby ReverseEngineer » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 17:11:27

p$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'C')apital Punishment is legal.



In some places, not all.


Many countries have abolished it.


Texas hasn't though :-)

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Ludi » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 20:37:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')Texas hasn't though :-)




I'm pretty sure they only apply it to murder cases, not "parasitism" or "Pigmanism." You'll probably need to change list of crimes carrying the death penalty in many places if you want to apply it to folks who aren't the usually special class of murderers currently on death row.

Even Texas doesn't kill many of its criminals. Just the special ones.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby ReverseEngineer » Sat 14 Mar 2009, 22:46:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')Texas hasn't though :-)




I'm pretty sure they only apply it to murder cases, not "parasitism" or "Pigmanism." You'll probably need to change list of crimes carrying the death penalty in many places if you want to apply it to folks who aren't the usually special class of murderers currently on death row.

Even Texas doesn't kill many of its criminals. Just the special ones.


No doubt, new law has to be written. There is nothing on the books for "Crimes Against Humanity", or even a real good definition for it. We can start there. Remember also, you only reserve the highest punishments for the most guilty. So if you only hired 10 Mexicans and paid them minimum wage and no bennies to pick your lettuce, is that worthy of the highest punishment? If all you did was perpetually call the bottom to the market as a Stock Pundit on CNBC, is that a High Crime or a Misdemeanor? If your great grandfather made zillions building railroads on the backs of Chinese laborers, but you are just a quiet coke addict living in your mansion and plowing Ford Models, is that a High Crime or a Misdemeanor?

Writing the law isn't going to be an easy task, but would you rather have Mob Justice? After all, you want to protect the Innocent Eggs as best you can and just Break the Guilty Eggs, right? Or would you rather let the Guilty Eggs off scott free here, in the interest of protectinog the Innocent Eggs?

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Pretorian » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 01:41:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')arasite: An organism that lives in or on and takes its nourishment from another organism. A parasite cannot live independently.


seems to me that almost everyone in the world is a parasite to some degree, with only a very small number of people having the potential to survive totally alone and without supplies coming from the rest of society...



seems to me you had very poor grades in biology and reading comprehension
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Pretorian » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 01:56:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'I')t wasn't entirely clear, as I for one based on your prior writings felt that you considered the Illegal Aliens and Welfare Moms more the Parasites than the Banksters. If that was a misinterpretation of your posting, I apologize for that. As long as we agree the Banksters are the biggest Parasites in need of the most severe Punishments, we are fighting on the same side of the line.

I don't consider them more parasitical, but that doesn't mean they aren't at all.


Of course they are more parasitical. They take more money! A LOT more money! To keep a welfare mom and her 3 kids fed costs you no more than $50 grand a year. To keep John Thain flying around in his Gulfstream V costs you $10 MILLION a year! Come ON! Who is the bigger parasite?




You are an ignorant fool, self-declared Engineer. Bankers, all kinds of governors, obamas, ets, all those you hate most by no means are parasites. They are predators. They will take what they want one way or another. If your silly dream wll come true one day, as it did for example in Russia of 1917, one batch of predators will be gone and you will be fucke.d by another on a regular basis. There is always someone on top, mind me reminding you.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby TWilliam » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 01:58:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'C')apital Punishment is legal.



In some places, not all.


Many countries have abolished it.

Yes. And interestingly, they seem to have correspondingly higher rates of crime...
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby TWilliam » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 02:03:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'B')ankers, all kinds of governors, obamas, ets, all those you hate most by no means are parasites. They are predators.

I would have to disagree with that Pretorian. Predators kill you outright (and are therefore more honest in that regard at least); parasites slowly bleed you to death, which I believe better describes the various usurers. I think the label stands...
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby ReverseEngineer » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 02:30:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')You are an ignorant fool, self-declared Engineer. Bankers, all kinds of governors, obamas, ets, all those you hate most by no means are parasites. They are predators. They will take what they want one way or another. If your silly dream wll come true one day, as it did for example in Russia of 1917, one batch of predators will be gone and you will be fucke.d by another on a regular basis. There is always someone on top, mind me reminding you.


Predators actually make attacks that are identifiable. Parasites suck off unsuspecting hosts that don;t notice them until they suck out too much. Banksters are Parasites, not Predators.

Insofar as my silly dreams are concerned, they may or may not come true, but at least they have a decent moral underpinning. Your perspective on the world lacks that, you revile anyone but Caucasians for lack of intelligence, when you are a perfect example of someone lacking in intelligence. What was your SAT score anyhow? I'll bet it wasn't better than 1300 based on what you write. Not that we will ever get the truth on that though.

Life is a battle to be sure, and we are in the midst of a big one here. It comes to almost all generations eventually, rarely is there peace past a full generation. This one lasted longer than most, but the battle begins anew here now. So it goes. I have no idea what the final outcome of this one will be, all I know is which side is the RIGHT side to fight on. You appear to be on the OTHER side. Not good news for you if you are in my neighborhood when TSHTF.

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Pretorian » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 05:44:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')You are an ignorant fool, self-declared Engineer. Bankers, all kinds of governors, obamas, ets, all those you hate most by no means are parasites. They are predators. They will take what they want one way or another. If your silly dream wll come true one day, as it did for example in Russia of 1917, one batch of predators will be gone and you will be fucke.d by another on a regular basis. There is always someone on top, mind me reminding you.


Predators actually make attacks that are identifiable. Parasites suck off unsuspecting hosts that don;t notice them until they suck out too much. Banksters are Parasites, not Predators.

Yeah? And all these recent bailouts what were they? A non-identifiable attack on unsuspecting hosts?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '[') you revile anyone but Caucasians for lack of intelligence

I had never said anything like that. Another horseshit branded "RE"

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '[')when you are a perfect example of someone lacking in intelligence. What was your SAT score anyhow? I'll bet it wasn't better than 1300 based on what you write. Not that we will ever get the truth on that though.


As I said before, Thou art naught but a silly fool! What in the world forced your small degenerating brain to imagine that I had any SAT score at all?
I'm not an American you salmon-genocider, and English is not my first nor second nor third language, if you didnt figure that out yet you should be considered to be pretty dumb, don't you think.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby SeaGypsy » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 05:57:52

Let's all indulge in some good old fashioned shit hanging hey?
Fuckin hell who fuckin cares what fucked up insults we invent for each other? Let's collectively grow up a little and see if we can get anywhere on this deliberately provocative thread by the illustrious TWilliam?

Where were we? Scales of parasitism wasn't it? Human rights?
Degrees of guilt; redefining crime especially serious crime?
Dealing with dieoff in a radical experimental thought process?

WTF has that got to do with trading insults?
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