[Dawn]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '&')quot;Young Men and Women of the Armed Forces are under orders to starve the citizens of their own country; Forthwith!" Will that work?

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hose are your words. Not reality. Not yet anyway. And being christian or not has nothing to do with it. I believe the OP was about legislation that's being introduced. We can fight that with letters, phone calls, and emails. The problem, IMO, is that the people in power don't listen anymore

[alokin]

I really can't believe it. This is too dark and seems to be tinfoil. Can anyone proof this story?
On the other hand: centralize food is centralize power over the people and means making heaps of money especially in a situation of scarcity. And the food industry could mix every BS in your food if there are no other sources.
But still, it could be that they want to have every tiny bit of produce recorded and you must then give it away,like it was during WWII (as far as I remember).

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alokin', 'I') really can't believe it. This is too dark and seems to be tinfoil. Can anyone proof this story?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alokin', 'I') really can't believe it. This is too dark and seems to be tinfoil. Can anyone proof this story?.

[SeaGypsy]

I just had a poke around in there; 'someone' answers the question 'How will this affect home gardeners?' saying that the legislation only affects commercial production. Does this mean Ludi& Pops can plant a few string beans? (Might just be a boon for the black market?)

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'I') just had a poke around in there; 'someone' answers the question 'How will this affect home gardeners?' saying that the legislation only affects commercial production. Does this mean Ludi& Pops can plant a few string beans? (Might just be a boon for the black market?)

[topcat]

I breifly scanned through parts of the bill, here is what I came away with.

If you grow (manufacture according to the bill) food AND sell it, you will be regulated.

Same for animals, fish, eggs, etc.

Who knows what will be added/deleted from the bill, much less if/when it is passed.

As far as the regulating aspect, your guess is as good as mine (more govt jobs).

[SeaGypsy]

Jacket image of the Compact Oxford English Dictionary

sell
• verb (past and past part. sold) 1 hand over in exchange for money. 2 deal in (goods or property). 3 (of goods) attain sales. 4 (sell out) sell all of one’s stock of something. 5 (sell up) sell all of one’s property or assets. 6 persuade someone of the merits of. 7 (sell out) betray (someone) for one’s own financial or material benefit. 8 (sell out) abandon one’s principles for reasons of expedience.
— PHRASES sell short fail to recognize or state the true value of. sell one’s soul (to the devil) be willing to do anything, no matter how wrong it is, in order to achieve one’s objective.
— DERIVATIVES sellable adjective.
— ORIGIN Old English.

swap (also swop)
• verb (swapped, swapping) exchange or substitute.
• noun an act of exchanging one thing for another.
— ORIGIN originally in the sense "throw forcibly", later "strike hands as a token of agreement": probably imitative.

While we are into the four letter words.

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('topcat', 'I') breifly scanned through parts of the bill, here is what I came away with. If you grow (manufacture according to the bill) food AND sell it, you will be regulated.

[smallpoxgirl]

I think the point is very well taken that this is a bill that has been introduced in the house only. All sorts of crazy legislation is introduced all the time. It then gets referred to committee where it dies a peaceful death. If the Agriculture Committee reports the bill out, that would be the time to get excited. In all likelihood this bill will die quietly in the Agriculture Committee.

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I') think the point is very well taken that this is a bill that has been introduced in the house only. All sorts of crazy legislation is introduced all the time. It then gets referred to committee where it dies a peaceful death. If the Agriculture Committee reports the bill out, that would be the time to get excited. In all likelihood this bill will die quietly in the Agriculture Committee.

[HeckuvaJob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'w')hat did yall expect Democrats to go after once they got real power. Every last one of the listed sponsors of the indicated legislation are members of the Democratic party.

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HeckuvaJob', 'h')ttp://www.usdoj.gov/opa/documents/memostatusolcopinions01152009.pdf

Keep fighting the good fight, AgentR.

[papalegba]

IF this ever went through, it will probably work about as well as their efforts to regulate that other common garden herb, the kind that you smoke.

Ha!

[gnm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HeckuvaJob', 'h')ttp://www.usdoj.gov/opa/documents/memostatusolcopinions01152009.pdf

Keep fighting the good fight, AgentR.

[rangerone314]

Probably a good that my screening border that I'm engineering around my property will block it from gov view as well as from wandering zombies. It is best to be out of sight and out of mind.

The outer edge is thorny rose hedge; the middle layer is cypress tree or bamboo depending where on property. The inner layer will be a wooden fence.

Since I will be growing things as inter-cropped/companion-planted, there won't be neat orderly rows (like rows of corn) viewable from satellite or plane.

[rangerone314]

I hope it dies in committee.

It is too bad there is not some Constitutional restriction on the # of bills that Congress can pass in a year.

It seems they are just a bunch of greedy, cowardly, corporation-beholden fatcat lawyers who sit around all day coming up with more bad ideas on how to f**k over the American people.

I do find people with the revolutionary mindset to be amusing though. Most revolutions just end up replacing one corrupt system with another.

My revolutionary idea is to lie as low as possible, mind my own business, and dig in like Switzerland. Have little worth taking, and have massive defensive capabilities to defend what I DO have.

[topcat]

Jotapay ( and others);

The bill first defines the different "Food Establishments." You then come to the definition of the term "Food Establishment." (Since I have not had or made the time to learn quotes in the new format, I have to wing it.)

Next, the bill mentions the "Exceptions" and directly mentions "Food Production Facility ... paragraph 14" as an exemption (as you quoted). The definition of a "Food Production Facility" is where ranches, farms, etc. are mentioned.

The link is not functioning right now (so from memory), the term "Selling" was mentioned just above the Exclusion (B).

My impression (expanded version) is still that if you raise/grow/process/transport/hold just about anything edible that is to be sold, that action will be regulated and inspected via this bill.

Anyway, this is how I read it.

[Jotapay]

Topcat, a Food Establishment is anything not already defined as a Food Production Facility. So they get you either way, as a Food Establishment produces or stores food.