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Re: FDIC needs 500 billion?

Unread postby JJ » Sun 08 Mar 2009, 21:20:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'B')ut really, if you expect Santa to bail out the holder of the bad mortgage, why don't you expect Santa to bail you out too?

Or does Santa only bail out the bad kids, and gives a lump of coal to the good kids?


I don't want to be Santa. Not for the AIG execs. Not for my landlady. Not for my single mother coworker. Not in a box. Not with a fox. Not on a plane. Not in the rain. I have no red suit. No black shiny boots. No flying reindeer. No big bag of presents to hand out.



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Re: FDIC needs 500 billion?

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 08 Mar 2009, 21:26:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JJ', '
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+1 :)



What is your plan to avoid being forced into the role of Santa?
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Re: FDIC needs 500 billion?

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Sun 08 Mar 2009, 21:29:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')hat is your plan to avoid being forced into the role of Santa?


Bitching about it on the internet. What else am I going to do? I'd move to a democracy if such a thing existed in 2009.

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Re: FDIC needs 500 billion?

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 08 Mar 2009, 21:32:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '
')Bitching about it on the internet.



Excellent plan.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', ' ')What else am I going to do?


Reduce your need to earn so much you don't pay taxes.
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Re: FDIC needs 500 billion?

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Sun 08 Mar 2009, 21:35:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', ' ')What else am I going to do?


Reduce your need to earn so much you don't pay taxes.


I don't "need" to earn so much. I can live off almost nothing and have done so. I just don't especially WANT to live that way if I don't have to.
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FDIC Criticizes Bank With No Bad Loans

Unread postby mattduke » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 20:55:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he secret behind East Bridgewater Savings Bank's accomplishments is the careful approach of 62-year-old chief executive Joseph Petrucelli. "We’re paranoid about credit quality," he told the Boston Business Journal.

That paranoia has allowed East Bridgewater Savings Bank to stand out among a flurry a failing banks, with no delinquent loans or foreclosures on its books, the Journal reported. East Bridgewater Savings didn’t even need to set aside in money in 2008 for anticipated loan losses.

But rather than reward Petrucelli's tactics, the FDIC recently criticized his bank for not lending enough, slapping it with a "needs to improve" rating under the Community Reinvestment Act, the Journal reported.
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Re: FDIC Criticizes Bank With No Bad Loans

Unread postby Stonemason » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 21:23:15

Getting people to think once again that banks should be strict with them about lending them money for their economic growth?
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Re: FDIC Criticizes Bank With No Bad Loans

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 21:47:24

Just goes to show that the sclerotic authorities have learned nothing from this whole mess. They've got ideological blinders on and would make the same blunders again if they could. The blind leading the blind, Bruegel:

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FDIC restricts interest rates at weak banks

Unread postby mattduke » Sun 31 May 2009, 09:56:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U').S. banks that are struggling to stay afloat will not be allowed to aggressively ratchet up interest rates to attract customer money, a top bank regulator said on Friday.

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp voted to bar a bank with insured deposits from paying interest rates that "significantly exceed" prevailing market rates if the bank is deemed not well capitalized. The new rule better defines what constitutes normal market rates, the FDIC said.

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Re: FDIC restricts interest rates at weak banks

Unread postby cipi604 » Sun 31 May 2009, 10:34:59

lol
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Re: FDIC restricts interest rates at weak banks

Unread postby gt1370a » Sun 31 May 2009, 17:09:46

Why is this lunacy? It was lunacy that they were ever allowed to in the first place.... think about it. A bank that is on the verge of failure (Indymac) starts paying 6% for CDs when other banks are paying 2%, in order to draw in capital and support their balance sheet in the short term. Of course, no idiot would buy that 6% CD if it weren't for the fact that the FDIC insurance was backing it. This draws money away from relatively healthy banks and into the relatively weak, and puts the stronger banks at a competitive disadvantage (forcing them to either forgo deposits or jack their own rates up). And then, when the Indymacs fail, the FDIC and the institution that takes over their branches are stuck with these outrageous CDs to pay off.
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Re: FDIC restricts interest rates at weak banks

Unread postby mattduke » Mon 01 Jun 2009, 12:33:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gt1370a', 'W')hy is this lunacy? It was lunacy that they were ever allowed to in the first place.... think about it. A bank that is on the verge of failure (Indymac) starts paying 6% for CDs when other banks are paying 2%, in order to draw in capital and support their balance sheet in the short term. Of course, no idiot would buy that 6% CD if it weren't for the fact that the FDIC insurance was backing it. This draws money away from relatively healthy banks and into the relatively weak, and puts the stronger banks at a competitive disadvantage (forcing them to either forgo deposits or jack their own rates up). And then, when the Indymacs fail, the FDIC and the institution that takes over their branches are stuck with these outrageous CDs to pay off.

Good point. Why not just get rid of privately owned banks altogether?
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Re: FDIC restricts interest rates at weak banks

Unread postby gt1370a » Mon 01 Jun 2009, 19:40:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'G')ood point. Why not just get rid of privately owned banks altogether?


I would, instead, get rid of the FDIC and just let them buy private insurance for their deposits, or maintain a reasonable amount of reserves to cover bank runs, or whatever it takes. Government intervention distorts the markets and causes more problems...
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FDIC LOan Report/Nearly 50% of CRE Could Fail

Unread postby deMolay » Wed 05 Aug 2009, 19:00:02

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Re: FDIC LOan Report/Nearly 50% of CRE Could Fail

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Wed 05 Aug 2009, 19:51:28

And the commercial real estate collapse accelerated in Q2 as prices fell nationally by 18.1% (the biggest quarterly decline in the 25 years since the index has been published; the second-biggest drop was 10.6%).

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Re: FDIC LOan Report/Nearly 50% of CRE Could Fail

Unread postby oxj » Thu 06 Aug 2009, 07:51:16

Cool. Imagine all the paintball arenae.
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Re: FDIC LOan Report/Nearly 50% of CRE Could Fail

Unread postby the48thronin » Thu 06 Aug 2009, 22:36:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oxj', 'C')ool. Imagine all the paintball arenae.

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FDIC is in the red

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Thu 27 Aug 2009, 17:11:41

I continue to wonder how long all this will go on. Thanks to Congress these F&*%$rs now have a credit line wirth something like 400B$. It comes directly from A. Your pocket, B. Govt printing presses.

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Re: FDIC is in the red

Unread postby ian807 » Thu 27 Aug 2009, 17:26:23

FDIC. Banks. Fannie and Freddie. It's all the same funny money.

Look. All we've done is put off the day of reckoning. Enjoy this time. Be thankful you can put a card in an ATM, get some paper out and that someone will take it in exchange for goods and services. There's no predicting how long that happy little situation will continue, but the economy is sufficiently fragile that even a little bump is capable of bringing it down like a house of cards.

A war, a terrorist act, a very bad flu, a bad enough solar flare at the right time, the Chinese decide to stop buying our debt. Etc. What used to be little downturns we could deal with are now amplified by 1 quadrillion or so of bank exposure to derivatives worldwide. Economically speaking, the world is poised atop a powder keg hoping nobody lights a match.
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Re: FDIC is in the red

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Thu 27 Aug 2009, 20:26:36

We have tons of BIG fiscal problems in this country, but I don't see this one as that big of a deal.

1). The insurance premium for the banks to get the FDIC insurance can be raised in necessary to meet the ongoing expenses. This recently happened (last fall I think) already.

2). Banks fail in clusters after bad financial times, like recessions. When that happens, the FDIC reserve dips. For everyone that believes we will recover to some reasonable extent (doomers excepted, I suppose) - this is just a nasty recession, and will pass.

Now, as far as getting the public or the congress or the administration to behave in a financially responsible manner that won't bankrupt us and/or destroy the dollar over time -- I'm a big time pessimist on that front (and have been for 30 years). This process could take 2 or 3 more decades IMO, depending on how the chips fall.
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