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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 24 Jan 2009, 12:21:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MarkJ', '
') The police department then contacts mental health services.


I'm glad some effort is made to help them.
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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby vision-master » Sat 24 Jan 2009, 12:35:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f an employee shows sings of mental illness, or potentially violent behavior, one of our managers generally contacts security and the police department. The police department then contacts mental health services.


Better watch it there, you could open yourself up to a nice lawsuit. Mental illness is a disease my friend. It could happen to you.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')oes the ADA protect people with severe mental illness?
The definition of disability in the ADA includes people with mental illness who meet one of these three definitions: "(1) a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities of an individual; (2) a record of such an impairment; or (3) being regarded as having such an impairment." A mental impairment is defined by the ADA as "any mental or psychological disorder, such as mental retardation, organic brain syndrome, emotional or mental illness, and specific learning disabilities."

Employment (Title I of the ADA)

Do all employers have to comply with Title I of the ADA?
Private employers with 15 or more employees, state and local governments, employment agencies, labor organizations, and management committees are all subject to the ADA. The ADA does not apply to the federal government; however, discrimination by the federal government or federally assisted programs is prohibited under Title V of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973.

Who is protected by Title I?
The ADA prohibits discrimination against "qualified individuals with disabilities" who are individuals with disabilities who meet the skill, experience, education, and other job-related requirements of a position held or desired and who, with or without reasonable accommodation, can perform the essential functions of a job.

To offer ADA protection, does the employer have to be aware of the disability?
Yes. Employers are obligated to make reasonable accommodation only if they are aware of a person’s disability. Thus, employers do not have to accommodate disabilities that they are unaware of. If an employee with a known disability is having difficulty performing his or her job, an employer may inquire whether the employee is in need of a reasonable accommodation. In addition, if the employer has reason to know that the employee has a disability, they may have an obligation to discuss reasonable accommodation. In general, however, it is the responsibility of the individual with the disability to inform the employer that an accommodation is needed.

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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby MarkJ » Sat 24 Jan 2009, 12:44:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ost employees we've terminated during tight job markets tend to be scared and/or depressed (even suicidal), not angry or vengeful, but you get the rare hothead with fantasies of vengeance on their employers, co-workers or the world in general.



Fantasies? My brother worked for an evil auto dealership. Two line workers tried shooting a select few managers. One, his wife called the cops before he reached the shop and they had a shoot out. The other, I don't know what happened other than he didn't make it to the shop with his gun. They had not been terminated by the boss before hand either.


The primary causes of unstable employee behavior at our businesses are personal issues with finances, relationships, family etc, not pay, benefits, layoffs, terminations and working conditions.
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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby AlexdeLarge » Sat 24 Jan 2009, 13:41:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MarkJ', '
')Most employees we've terminated during tight job markets tend to be scared and/or depressed (even suicidal),


Did you try to get them any help with their depression


I think you can get sued for that....................
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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby MarkJ » Sat 24 Jan 2009, 14:15:22

There's not much employees can't sue for, hence why outsourcing, offshoring, automation, robotics, computerization, downsizing and subcontracting are popular.

Tougher qualifications, pre-employment screening (drug testing, background checks, psychological/personality profiling, reference/employment/identification checks) weed out many of the scammers.
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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby idiom » Sat 24 Jan 2009, 15:21:44

Again, the government is contriving to make healthcare as expesnive as humanly possible. So really, we should increase taxes so that they can make it even less cost effective.
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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 24 Jan 2009, 16:22:36

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I think you can get sued for that....................


I forget you're not supposed to help anyone in our society. :(
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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Sat 24 Jan 2009, 16:34:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', '
')Mentally ill employees need to take responisibilty for their illness, it's not the job of the former boss.


It's almost impossible for a mentally ill person to "take responsibility for their illness." They need help finding resources to support them, such as the local mental health clinic, which they may not even be aware of.


Before going to their employer/boss for help they should go to their family because their family is probably who screwed up their head in the first place. I don't see why it's the boss’ responsibility sheesh!!! the boss' job is to run the business not fix people’s heads!

Employment is a place to work, not a personal therapist.
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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 24 Jan 2009, 16:41:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', '
')Before going to their employer/boss for help they should go to their family because their family is probably who screwed up their head in the first place.


Oh there's some great logic. "The people who fucked you up are going to help you!"

No, that doesn't work. Believe me.
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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 24 Jan 2009, 16:42:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', ' ')I don't see why it's the boss’ responsibility sheesh!


It only is if he actually cares about his employees.
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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby vision-master » Sat 24 Jan 2009, 18:08:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MarkJ', 'T')here's not much employees can't sue for, hence why outsourcing, offshoring, automation, robotics, computerization, downsizing and subcontracting are popular.

Tougher qualifications, pre-employment screening (drug testing, background checks, psychological/personality profiling, reference/employment/identification checks) weed out many of the scammers.


Just remember when you subcontract, these ppl are NOT YOUR employees. No, you don't control them as you do with employees. Many employers ignore Federal Labor laws over this. You can't have it both ways! :razz:
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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby Taco » Sat 24 Jan 2009, 18:22:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') forget you're not supposed to help anyone in our society.


LOL, well such is society these days - steal millions from your business through excessive bonuses, you get a bailout; try to help a fella out, you get sued!

Anyways, I have a bit of trouble sympathizing with this boss. Yes, I understand his frustration, but clearly he isn't *that* bad off if he gloats about his Mercedes. And wasn't he the one who hired these "lazy baffoons"? Was it that hard to find applicants who were willing to do work and not be arrogant and stubborn about it?
Sounds like he's a disenchanted republican who won't take responsibility for his own errors.

Although I must commend him for working from the ground up - that's not easy, in any country.
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Re: To all my valued employees...

Unread postby bratticus » Thu 12 Feb 2009, 17:56:34

When you read the letter backwards you get:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Recession Gloat: Executives Too Incompetent to Fire Me

By Joe the Copywriter

The past few weeks, national headlines swirled with distressing news for an American workforce already cowering in fear. As the world suffers the worst economic turmoil since the Great Depression, two-thirds of American CEOs plan to fire employees in the next year, Obama stimulus or no. Something like 70,000 people lost their jobs on a single Monday two weeks ago. I thought I was going to be one of them. I should have been one of them. But my job is safe and secure. Not by virtue of my skill set or my indispensability to the Company; no, my job security rests firmly on my employer’s catastrophic ineptitude.

I’m a copywriter working for an Internet subsidiary of R.H. Donnelley, better known as the Yellow Pages company. They had stock worth $80 this time last year. Weird, since their main product is a useless brick of cheap paper now mainly used for propping open doors and to beating toddlers without leaving any bruise marks. But just a few weeks ago the stock finally made the drop to under a dollar. As it turns out, the company’s executives decided that it was the perfect time to renovate their offices.

We got our lay-off announcement about six months ago. The subsidiary I work for handles pay-per-click campaigns (like the ads on Google) and other copywriting tasks for small businesses. We were told our company was “restructuring,” meaning everyone would be fired. People started to sweat. There were panicked conversations in the breakroom. Pay-per-click analysts vowed to go rogue and started contacting plumbers and day-spas, trying to sell them on the necessity of targeted Internet advertising. Copywriters tried to cloud their impeding financial doom with daydreams about those $75 an hour New York gigs where they give you six months and a twenty-five-man team to come up with “Just Do It” and a swish. But it seemed all that worry was for nothing. Our lay-off deadline came and went. And we still have our jobs.

Compassion was not a factor. The execs had come up with a restructuring plan they needed us to carry out before cutting us loose on the breadlines. It was like forcing someone to dig their own grave, and it would have been sadistic if it wasn’t such a total failure. On paper, our bosses wanted to have us “fully automate” the implementation of pay-per-click campaigns. I laughed long and hard at that one during our lay-off announcement. The task was literally impossible. Conceived by stupid executives, it was as poorly thought through as the policies that sent the stock into the gutter. But the ancient management types have very little knowledge of how anything in our office actually works. They brainstorm independently of us, the people who actually know. Their plans only work on paper, unlike my check, which can be converted to hard cash. (That is, as long as the banks hold up.)

It’s kinda funny to think of these assholes at work, all of them in their fifties with “Just For Men” highlights in their hair, sitting around a boardroom, watching a PowerPoint presentation that strategically stimulates the vague concepts that make up their costly expertise. There’s positive language all around. Back slapping. Optimism. Smiles. Underlings are well-advised to only sniff ass, never say anything smart. Insight is just a threat to the hierarchy when the people on top are delusional — ask any apparatchik. A break for a two-hour lunch is taken. And that’s when some long-term plan is finalized. A huge figure with too many zeros to count is called out. Papers are signed. And everyone goes home happy.

Now I hear they’re outsourcing the advertising copywriting — my job — to India. I assume the 200-word ads will soon look like those glaring, non-native English speaker Nigerian spam letters. The irony, of course, is that it makes sense. Our office is hilariously inefficient. All you had to do was fire people who do nothing, and give the rest an incentive to do things. But with the execs’ misguided PowerPoint plan, I’m glad to report the entire bloated and redundant workforce keeps getting its checks. Now 85% of the office, following my lead, “works from home,” doing maybe a half-hour of work per day. This has been going on for months.

I wanted to sign my name to this article and forward it to my boss, so I could go out in a blaze of glory. But I’ve reconsidered. I mean, why blow a sure thing? I could milk this job for months to come. I’ve been “working from home” — I mean, playing Fallout 3 — all last week. I did no work at all. NOTHING! You can’t believe how good it feels to send in a timesheet and get paid $500, with the knowledge that you won’t have to do a single lick of labor when next week rolls around. There’s like 40 or 50 people in the office doing the same thing. It’s better than working for the government! Since everybody’s getting fired, even management’s doing it, brazenly. And since the execs are mired in their own folly, everybody keeps getting paid.

While the bosses, dizzy with success, “perfect” the new system, I get to perfect my masturbation technique. It’s a regular welfare state. It’s sort of like the Soviet Union, but with better entertainment. Thanks, execs!
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