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Cause & effect: riots, rioting and rioters pt 1 (merged) Arc
Re: French Peasants Storming the Bastille
by ReverseEngineer » Fri 30 Jan 2009, 02:56:12
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', 'T')his doesn't mean too much, the French will riot and protest almost anything.
Granted, the Frogs are hotheads but its a vast exagerration to say they will Riot at the drop of a hat also. When was the last time you can recall 2M people nationwide and 300,000 in Paris turned out in the streets with their Frog Blood Boiling?
The thing to remember here is this is just a Canary in the Coal Mine, these relatively tame protests even by French standards can't change the outcomes, and their economy is going to get far worse than it is right now in short order, as our own will. So iff 2M turned out today and set a few cars on fire, one can only figure in 6 months time the number will be an order of magnitude greater and all of Paris will be burning.
The images coming across the media affect people, and when unemployed workers in Atlanta see the Parisians getting ANGRY, they will get angry too. Much like the images from the Vietnam War, this is what gets Americans out in the streets. Its not as possible for TPTB to censor this type of News Violence as it was to censor the coverage of the Iraqui War, it comes in from news agencies all over the world and its not passed thru military censors before it goes over the airwaves and then over the internet.
It would be my guess that these demonstrations in Paris spark similar ones in the near future in London and Berlin. Britain is a real Powderkeg right now as they are truly on the brink of Bankruptcy.
These riots in France are Small Potatoes, and just a harbinger of things to come. A Canary in the Coal Mine. This will spread rapidly, like a match hitting a box of dry tinder soaked in gasoline. TS HAS HTF folks, and the images spraying out from France through the media are like Sparks in a Forest Fire. The Greatest Bonfire of Paper Wealth in all of Recorded History is turning REAL now. Its coming to a Theatre Near You.
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Re: French Peasants Storming the Bastille
by alokin » Fri 30 Jan 2009, 03:11:42
These are not riots. Demonstrations are in Europe are quite normal (sometimes they can get quite a bit rough) and the French are really good in it.
It is the Peakoil.com site which taught me how bad Americans must live!
I think that a huge factor is the shape of a French cities and other European cities. Here in Australia and I guess as well in the US the cities are built for the car and there are the suburbs, but there is not really a space besides the parks which is really public. Public in the sense that you can see people and you are seen as well (makes not lots of sense demonstrating in a park). There is not such thing as a piazza where you go only to go there, people go to shopping centers and there you cannot demonstrate. The city center here is somewhat dead.
You will get used to more demonstrations (at least no Anti-Bush demonstrations any more), don't worry about them, normal part of the culture.
It is the Peakoil.com site which taught me how bad Americans must live!
I think that a huge factor is the shape of a French cities and other European cities. Here in Australia and I guess as well in the US the cities are built for the car and there are the suburbs, but there is not really a space besides the parks which is really public. Public in the sense that you can see people and you are seen as well (makes not lots of sense demonstrating in a park). There is not such thing as a piazza where you go only to go there, people go to shopping centers and there you cannot demonstrate. The city center here is somewhat dead.
You will get used to more demonstrations (at least no Anti-Bush demonstrations any more), don't worry about them, normal part of the culture.
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Re: French Peasants Storming the Bastille
by Sixstrings » Fri 30 Jan 2009, 03:29:18
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t is the Peakoil.com site which taught me how bad Americans must live!
Sadly, for many Americans, this is true.
America is one big social ladder. Most people here spend their lives scrambling to climb to the next rung. There is no solidarity among the poor because most poor don't want to even admit to themselves they are in fact poor.
As an example, I give you Joe the Plumber. Joe the Plumber was the conservative's poster boy during the campaign. The man was actually concerned about taxes on the rich because he just *assumed* he too will be rich one day.
This is all hogwash, of course. Some get rich, yes. Some get rich then lose it all too. But we'll never have a society where everyone can own their own business or make small fortunes off flipping houses.
At some point we need recognize that the working classes have some value in this society, and deserve to live more decently.
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Re: French Peasants Storming the Bastille
by kpeavey » Fri 30 Jan 2009, 05:51:57
Peak Oil Collapse Checklist:
[x] Energy Price Volitility
[x] Economic Chaos/Market Turmoil
[x] Demonstrations
[ ] Rioting
[x] Energy Price Volitility
[x] Economic Chaos/Market Turmoil
[x] Demonstrations
[ ] Rioting
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--for ever."
-George Orwell, 1984
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twenty centuries of stony sleep were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, and what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
-George Yeats
-George Orwell, 1984
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-George Yeats
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Re: French Peasants Storming the Bastille
by vtsnowedin » Fri 30 Jan 2009, 07:30:24
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', 'P')eak Oil Collapse Checklist:
[x] Energy Price Volitility
[x] Economic Chaos/Market Turmoil
[x] Demonstrations
[ ] Rioting
[x] Energy Price Volitility
[x] Economic Chaos/Market Turmoil
[x] Demonstrations
[ ] Rioting
Don't forget:
[ ] Massive private sector layoffs
[ ] City governments go bankrupt
[ ] State governmants go bankrupt
[ ] Fed. Gov. prints money to hide insolvancy
[ ] forgeign bond holders call their notes
[ ] Bank holiday
[ ] crude oil imports to US end
[ ] Massive government layoffs
[ ] Intitlement,SS and pension payments halted
[ ] Martial law imposed
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Re: French Peasants Storming the Bastille
by pedalling_faster » Fri 30 Jan 2009, 09:14:08
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'M')illions are Rioting in France.
Wow ! i'm impressed. the French really do know how to Riot.
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