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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby Leanan » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 15:11:01

Women didn't start shaving their legs until nylon was invented. Nylon stockings made leg hair look funny, in a way that silk stockings did not.

Nylon is, of course, a petroleum product. So peak oil may eventually mean the end of shaved legs. :wink:
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 15:21:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', '
')So peak oil may eventually mean the end of shaved legs. :wink:


Well, if that happens, then it will do more for overshoot than any amount of planned parenthood could.
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby Leanan » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 15:47:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'W')ell, if that happens, then it will do more for overshoot than any amount of planned parenthood could.


LOL. If only it were so.

Nylon stockings were unknown to the world before 1939. Somehow, people managed to reproduce for thousands, even millions of years before then.

The fact is, men are not terribly picky. They've been known to molest sheep, plastic bags, and vacuum cleaners. I seriously doubt a little leg hair will put them off.
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby WildRose » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 15:51:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JoeSixPack', 'W')omen control everything. They are responsible for all of the advertising dollars that Americans spend every year.

Men do not ask you to doll up the way you do. You are being controlled by magazines, newspapers, and television shows and these in turn are controlled by females.

You need to fix what is wrong with your sex, and stop blaming men for your need to look a certain way. We don't ask you to do anything.

You set the standard for beauty and what men should expect from a woman.

All we want is our barcalounger, the remote control, and occasional attention paid to our penis.


Both sexes are responsible for the emphasis on looks. I already admitted to my part in it.

We have gone so far with the emphasis on youth and beauty in our culture that we no longer are aware of what is real. And, as hope_full pointed out, too much time is spent to this end.
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 17:06:51

Present company excluded--this is a complete generalization, so take it for what it is. There is a HUGE difference between American and Canadian women. Don't know why. We are on average, thinner, less demanding, culturally more "shy". When I lived in the U.S. I met a few women who were squat, ignorant, neckless and nasty. They were built like refrigerators, and their gender would have involved guesswork, had I not met their husbands. Their husbands seemed relatively normal. You NEVER see women like that here. Like--never, married, attached or single. Weird. What gives?
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 17:42:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', 'W')e have gone so far with the emphasis on youth and beauty in our culture that we no longer are aware of what is real.

What, you mean these aren't real women?

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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 17:49:45

There were still stockings (though not nylon) all the way back past the Victorian age. (google queen victoria's stockings). even after the petrol age ends there is still waxing which one hell of a lot of us women do. so don't think its over.

I haven't shaved my legs in years. And frankly don't plan to... if there's ever peak bees wax though... then I'll bitch.
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby JoeSixPack » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 18:03:59

If a woman doesn't love herself enough to take care of herself.

Then why should I?
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 18:07:30

Yeah, but whose standards of "care" are you assuming. Do you think a woman should conform to your expectations of level of "caring for herself"? and in turn are you willing to conform to her levels of expectations?
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby JoeSixPack » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 18:20:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'Y')eah, but whose standards of "care" are you assuming. Do you think a woman should conform to your expectations of level of "caring for herself"? and in turn are you willing to conform to her levels of expectations?


Yes
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 18:23:20

Ok, so what about personality? or morales? I am going to assume that looks (or shaved legs) aren't all you care about. becuase otherwise you will be no better off than the poor suckers that were whining in the article that started this thread.

Where do looks and standards of personal hygiene rate in your list of priorities?
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby davep » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 18:26:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'O')k, so what about personality? or morales? I am going to assume that looks (or shaved legs) aren't all you care about. becuase otherwise you will be no better off than the poor suckers that were whining in the article that started this thread.

Where do looks and standards of personal hygiene rate in your list of priorities?


That kind of thing is important in the initial phase. Once you've got over the fact you've bagged a gudd'un, it's almost entirely irrelevant (except for improving your genetic-stock, looks-wise).
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 18:27:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'p')eak oil may eventually mean the end of shaved legs. :wink:

Can't they develop a way to make nylons from corn ethanol and green algae ooze? [smilie=male.gif]
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 18:36:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'O')k, so what about personality? or morales? I am going to assume that looks (or shaved legs) aren't all you care about. becuase otherwise you will be no better off than the poor suckers that were whining in the article that started this thread. Where do looks and standards of personal hygiene rate in your list of priorities?
That kind of thing is important in the initial phase. Once you've got over the fact you've bagged a gudd'un, it's almost entirely irrelevant (except for improving your genetic-stock, looks-wise).

That is pre-supposing that anyone actually looks beyond the initial phase. I find most people are so self-absorbed they can't really get get past their own assumptions and bias' to see other people for what they really are. which is what this thread is about.

Do you guys have ANY idea how many women don't feel as though the guy they are with actually knows them, or see's them for themselves? (Good clue would be if you know what kind of xmas or birthday present she really would like, not the one she just kind of smiles and gooes over but ne'er touches again.)
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 18:39:40

Face it, people are lazy and relationships take work. After the initial phase most people couldn't care less about what comes after. they would prefer to just settle down to comfy, routine and don't care what the spouce thinks.

There are more interesting things out there than that person who sits at the table with you and talks about the same damned thing day after day. They aren't new, half the time most people wouldn't notice if they changes their hair....
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby davep » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 18:41:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'O')k, so what about personality? or morales? I am going to assume that looks (or shaved legs) aren't all you care about. becuase otherwise you will be no better off than the poor suckers that were whining in the article that started this thread. Where do looks and standards of personal hygiene rate in your list of priorities?
That kind of thing is important in the initial phase. Once you've got over the fact you've bagged a gudd'un, it's almost entirely irrelevant (except for improving your genetic-stock, looks-wise).
That is pre-supposing that anyone actually looks beyond the initial phase. I find most people are so self-absorbed they can't really get get past their own assumptions and bias' to see other people for what they really are. which is what this thread is about.
Do you guys have ANY idea how many women don't feel as though the guy they are with actually knows them, or see's them for themselves? (Good clue would be if you know what kind of xmas or birthday present she really would like, not the one she just kind of smiles and gooes over but ne'er touches again.)

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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby JoeSixPack » Mon 01 Dec 2008, 19:15:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'O')k, so what about personality? or morales? I am going to assume that looks (or shaved legs) aren't all you care about. becuase otherwise you will be no better off than the poor suckers that were whining in the article that started this thread.

Where do looks and standards of personal hygiene rate in your list of priorities?


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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby Grifter » Tue 02 Dec 2008, 06:19:56

This is a great thread
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o you guys have ANY idea how many women don't feel as though the guy they are with actually knows them, or see's them for themselves?

I would imagine it is a lot. If my experience is anything to go by its almost impossible to get to know a woman. She changes so much over time to someone completely different to who we met.

Maybe men are the same I don't know.

Basically both parties have to be honest if they are to get to really know each other. I see a lot of dishonesty in other people's relationships as well as my own.

Do any women have any idea of how many guys don't feel like the woman knows them?
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby hope_full » Tue 02 Dec 2008, 06:49:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o any women have any idea of how many guys don't feel like the woman knows them?

But there's the rub. Women are trained - largely by societal mores and more subtle cultural influences - to be coy and play games and to NOT BE TRUE TO THEMSELVES and to SILENCE those "whispers of the soul," but to PLAY a part in order to be perceived as beautiful and desirable. This is mental torture, ever moreso for a woman who is not naturally deferential and demure. (I speak from experience on this one).

Women that are interested in finding their life's purpose and pursuing careers that are aligned with their natural bends are instructed to "think back to when you were five years old and remember what made you happy." Apparently that's when most of us lost our true authentic selves and our real souls were buried whilst still alive; buried under a mound of "you ought to be more..." whatever. More humble, more quiet, more respectful, more ladylike, more soft-spoken.

As the bumpersticker says, "Well behaved women rarely make history," and yet we're all taught to be "Well behaved." How many stories are there of women who ignored their natural instincts and were POLITE - so polite that they ended up assaulted, attacked, injured and worse? We're instructed out of ourselves so far that even our personal safety and natural biological urges to stay out of harm's way has been lost. How pitiful. How wrong.

Look at the books targeted to women - especially those books that relate to dating. A best-seller was "Finding a Husband after 35; What I Learned at Harvard Business School." It's a book about HOW to market yourself - and imho, a book on how to PLAY THE GAME especially well and PUT ON A SHOW so that men will find you attractive.

Wouldn't it just be infinitely easier if women were allowed to be their own intriguing, enchanting, fascinating, genuine selves? Stats show that unmarried women live the longest and their married counterparts go much sooner. The opposite is true for men: Married men live the longest. This whole pair-bonding thing is very hard on women - probably because we've learned we that have to bury our real selves in order for a long-term relationship to survive.

Women who are classic Type A's out in the real world have to don the virtual apron of humility and quietude and be deferential little sweet things at home, in order for the marriage to work.

This outrageous onus of fakery is never asked of men. They're taught from the ground up to just be who they really are. I think that's why there are all the jokes and goofball stories of men being so simple and women being so complicated and hard to understand. It's tough to play a role that is not true to your own soul.
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Re: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife

Unread postby Grifter » Tue 02 Dec 2008, 07:16:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hope_full', ' ')Women are trained - largely by societal mores and more subtle cultural influences


So are men. We are supposed to like all things sporting, we are not supposed to be too thoughtful. We are supposed to make quick decisions and changing ones mind is a sign of weakness.

A strange thing has happened in modern times where men are supposed to spend almost as much time in the bathroom (that means getting ready for a party not being on the toilet) as women. The almost as much time is very important. We must take care of our skin, nails, hair but do it in slightly less time than a female.

I try not to buy into this but I am a different person in the real world than I am on here.

As for attractive women. Shaved / waxed legs are a must for me, but I also like opinionated strong willed women more than the quiet shrinking violet types.
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