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Re: Honda to sell gas-electric hybird next year...

Unread postby idiom » Wed 21 May 2008, 11:22:15

.... but 20 miles is only half way to freedom?!?!
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Re: Honda to sell gas-electric hybird next year...

Unread postby Chuckmak » Wed 21 May 2008, 11:35:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('idiom', 'H')onda already has a Hybrid Civic available around the world.

I believe it was the one that had rough sales due to the 'it doesn't look wierd like a Prius, so my peers won't think I'm green' effect.


That's basically how it is, plus the explanation of the poster below you. You have to LOOK green in order for it to sell. It's still all about image and not actually doing anything about it.
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Re: Honda to sell gas-electric hybird next year...

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 21 May 2008, 12:51:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('idiom', '.')... but 20 miles is only half way to freedom?!?!


How about 50 miles with no gas required ever?

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Re: Honda to sell gas-electric hybird next year...

Unread postby TheDude » Wed 21 May 2008, 14:55:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'T')he next killer hybrid needs a 20 mile all electric range. The first company to do that will win big.


Co-rect. US needs about 95 million sales to cover needs of commuters and it would be best to have cars that can operate independently of the fuel infrastructure.

I like the Ebike at vision-master's link: "Human Electric Hybrid Drive." Those things sell like hotcakes in China.
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Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby Sixstrings » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 13:56:30

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/127523.html

If things get bad, I think this is the sort of thing we'll see more of: nice middle class folks living in 20,000 dollar vehicles, with their akc registered dogs.
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby ohcomeon » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 14:14:27

That's just sad... and so many are one or two paychecks from a crisis like this...

You're right. I think as time goes on we'll see more and more of this.

We are nice middle class folks, well, lower middle probably, and it's scary. We've had lots of things happen recently like a 3 year old with major heart surgeries to deplete us and now we are on the edge, too. Even with insurance, between deductibles and expenses of months staying at the hospital with her, I can see how it can happen to folks. And not all of us are the like the stupid people who went out and bought more house than they could afford. Sometimes smart, practical people have bad things happen to them. Thank goodness we still have one good income and can at least pay the bills.

Anyway, I guess because of our situation right now, I just feel for that woman.
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby Pretorian » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 16:39:26

I wonder how much better off that womman could be if she started to live like this since 18 or whenever she left parents.
She'd save a million bucks on rent/utilitiess/taxes, got used to it, and wouldn't have any dogs. Now a homeless with $1M and an SUV is not as pathetic.
How much did YOU spend on exsessive housing?
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby syrac818 » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 16:40:48

Ok seriously, not to be a dick, but what the hell are these people doing in Santa Barbara? These people ddo know that Santa Barbara is one of the most expensive, exclusive cities in America, right?

I was wondering that for the entire segment, and then they pretty much flat out said it - "When she was laid off, it was hard for her to find new housing in a town where homes average well over a million dollars."

I guess there is some reason keeping them there, and I'm sorry to sound judgemental. I just think the segment would be much more powerful in a middle-lower class suburb.
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby kokoda » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 16:57:28

Sadly my first thoughts were that we are going to have to build a lot more car parks.
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby veliger » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 17:00:46

The woman in the CRV is a perfect poster woman for “Hungry? Eat Your Import!”

Maybe if she and millions of other American’s hadn’t exported their money to Japan on Honda’s, she would still have a job.
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby BigTex » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 17:11:47

It only takes a small amount of creativity to come up with an outstanding Plan B, C, D, etc.

The key is you have to think it through beforehand.

I used to own a nice 25 ft. RV I purchased used for $6,000. I was single and when I sold the home I was living in (it unexpectedly sold the first day it was on the market) I decided to try living in my RV for a while.

I parked it at a campground and rent was $200 a month, which included all utilities except a phone, which I didn't need because I had my cell phone. The park even had basic cable.

I lived like this for about six months and it was amazingly simple and inexpensive.

My space in the campground was small, but I could have easily put in a nice container garden if I had wanted to and raised some vegetables.

What was strange was that a lot of people I knew seemed to feel sorry for me because I was living in a way that they couldn't relate to. Dealing with that was very strange.

One of the funny things about the experience was that my girlfriend (wife now) was working at a Lexus dealership and always drove a new Lexus demo as a perk. She would come over to my little home to watch a movie (or whatever) and the sight of this brand new Lexus parked outside my 1980s era trailer in this campground was amusingly incongruent.

When I sold my RV I got about $4500 for it (I had owned it for about three years), so the cost of housing was nominal.

I didn't do this because of some disaster, I just did it to see how it would be. It was fine. I wasn't suffering. My bed was actually quite comfortable. This arrangement would obviously be more challenging with kids, but the point is that this is an easy way of living pretty well on a fraction of what most of us spend on living expenses.

The truly ironic thing about the experience was that, far from being broke, I could honestly say during that time that I owned my home free and clear and had virtually no other debts. If I had needed to, I probably could have gotten by on about $600 a month.

There were a few moments when in my reverie I even felt a little like Thoreau might have felt out on Walden Pond. Those moments were invariably interrupted by my less enlightened neighbor cranking up his Molly Hatchet albums.
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby aflurry » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 18:08:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('veliger', 'T')he woman in the CRV is a perfect poster woman for “Hungry? Eat Your Import!” Maybe if she and millions of other American’s hadn’t exported their money to Japan on Honda’s, she would still have a job

if your products can't compete, make better products.
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby aflurry » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 18:11:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '
')There were a few moments when in my reverie I even felt a little like Thoreau might have felt out on Walden Pond. Those moments were invariably interrupted by my less enlightened neighbor cranking up his Molly Hatchet albums.


Every time I watch "Trailer Park Boys" I get that feeling. It seems so simple and idyllic....
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby veliger » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 18:30:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aflurry', 'i')f your products can't compete, make better products.

If other Governments support and subsidize their manufacturing base, and keep their markets essentially closed, while your government does nothing to help you or hinder the imports, you end up with a decades long decline in manufacturing.
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby 3aidlillahi » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 20:05:56

Here's a suggestion: Get the hell out of that soon-to-be death-trap! Not the slightest degree of pity for that woman.
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Thu 10 Jul 2008, 00:35:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')aybe if she and millions of other American’s hadn’t exported their money to Japan on Honda’s, she would still have a job.


Ironically enough, Honda and Toyota are increasing the number of American jobs while Chrysler, GM, and Ford keeps making cuts, and the cars from Honda and Toyota are actually assembled in the U.S., unlike many of the cars by the big three, such as all of those Dodge trucks assembled in Mexico.

The fault for the loss of American jobs in the auto sector is that of the U.S. automakers for the following reasons:

a) not making products that Americans wanted but instead trying to force them into high margin products that were in low demand
b) laying off workers and transporting their jobs to countries of cheaper labor

The executives give themselves a pay raise and then pin the blame on the unions and the foreign automakers, while clamoring for a tax-payer funded bailout while still touting the 'free market' as infallible...
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby allenwrench » Thu 10 Jul 2008, 11:06:07

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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby allenwrench » Fri 11 Jul 2008, 15:56:51

Some cities are very hard to afford nowadays. My Mom has some friends from from the Orient that live in LA. They rent a nice apt near the Miracle Mile and pay about $3000 a month. Then 8 of em split the rent and they live packed like sushi.

That is how you live in L.A., unless you can pay the big bucks on your lonesome. I couldn't afford it any longer so moved out of L.A. in '89 to NE US. Only thing I miss is polluted Santa Monica beach with the beauties tanning their bare boobies, sunflower greens from Erewhons...and my fig tree!


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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby PrairieMule » Fri 11 Jul 2008, 16:10:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('veliger', 'T')he woman in the CRV is a perfect poster woman for “Hungry? Eat Your Import!” Maybe if she and millions of other American’s hadn’t exported their money to Japan on Honda’s, she would still have a job

I owned a 2001 Honda CRV, it was assembled in Marysville, Ohio. :P
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Re: Homless in a Honda CR-V -- signs of trouble in suburbia

Unread postby ohcomeon » Fri 11 Jul 2008, 21:37:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I') wonder how much better off that womman could be if she started to live like this since 18 or whenever she left parents.
She'd save a million bucks on rent/utilitiess/taxes, got used to it, and wouldn't have any dogs. Now a homeless with $1M and an SUV is not as pathetic.
How much did YOU spend on exsessive housing?


Not sure if this question was rhetorical or was directed at me as it followed my post. (Forgive my missing your subtle humor it that's what it was...) But to answer the question if it was meant for me: NONE. Our home is a part of my husband's pay. We have no choice where we live, but we do not pay for it at all. As long as he has a job, we will have a roof over our heads. So in that aspect, we are better off than some. But not as good as others who have a home that's theirs and that is paid for.

I am supposing from your post though that you live in your car, pet-free, and are a millionaire. Good for you.
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