[Revi]

The fact that food riots are happening in the US is a harbinger of things to come. I was talking to a person in the know about food prices and he said that the price doesn't reflect the cost of shipping fully yet. He thinks the price could go up another 50-100% by next year if all that is factored in.

A friend who builds electric cars said that he got a bill for shipping that was $300, with an extra fuel surcharge of $250 on top of that.

When all this ripples through the system the price will surely go up again.

We already have a lot of people who are having trouble making ends meet around here.

It isn't going to be pretty.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'T')he fact that food riots are happening in the US is a harbinger of things to come. I was talking to a person in the know about food prices and he said that the price doesn't reflect the cost of shipping fully yet. He thinks the price could go up another 50-100% by next year if all that is factored in.

A friend who builds electric cars said that he got a bill for shipping that was $300, with an extra fuel surcharge of $250 on top of that.

When all this ripples through the system the price will surely go up again.

We already have a lot of people who are having trouble making ends meet around here.

It isn't going to be pretty.

[gunny7258]

Plus nobody has mentioned that companies are not really passing on the full cost yet. Even when oil goes down prices will stay high for at least a year to make up for lost revenue. Look at what just happened to FedEX!

I would like to see full scale US oil production so companies can develop alternative energy sources without so much damn pressure on them. I think that since the American public has witnessed $4 gasoline they will more then welcome a good alternative vehicle. And who ever makes a good one will make a ton of cash!

I would like to see a good plug in hybrid, i drive 89 miles a day round trip to work so i would love a car that i could lug in to recharge. Only thing is where we gonna get the power from. We need more power plants to support vehicles like that!

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', ' ')i drive 89 miles a day round trip

[gunny7258]

Hey when the job i really like and the company i prefer to work for is 43 miles away then i gotta go there. There are closer jobs but i like where i am at. Not to bad since i drive a 1995 corolla i paid cash for 2 years ago.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'H')ey when the job i really like and the company i prefer to work for is 43 miles away then i gotta go there. There are closer jobs but i like where i am at. Not to bad since i drive a 1995 corolla i paid cash for 2 years ago.

[frankthetank]

Welfare consumes way more of your taxes then the war in Iraq.

Throwing people in jail is a lot cheaper then giving them foodstamps. Jails are cheap. Only like $30,000+ per prisoner, per year. Plus they get cable TV, get to play games and have catered meals. That will teach them not to get food stamps and Medicaid.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'W')elfare consumes way more of your taxes then the war in Iraq.

Throwing people in jail is a lot cheaper then giving them foodstamps. Jails are cheap. Only like $30,000+ per prisoner, per year. Plus they get cable TV, get to play games and have catered meals. That will teach them not to get food stamps and Medicaid.

[jdmartin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'W')ell if you want to judge me on my giving then you know nothing about me. If you would like me to clarify things i do that you feel make me a better person then i can.

But it obviously would not matter because to you i am just some evil rich (but not by my standards) guy.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jdmartin', '"')Yes I have loans" you say. Where do you think that money came from? God? Thin air?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jdmartin', ' ')spirit of entreprenurialship

[jdmartin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jdmartin', ' ')spirit of entreprenurialship

[gunny7258]

Yes i work for someone else but also have a internet based business that brings in another 30,000 a year so yes i do run my own business. I am the only one that does anything for my side business. I taught myself how to build websites from scratch, market them and sell products on them.

As far as lazy i started this morning at 5:30 am i will work ntil 4 pm. Drive home and after i put my kids to bed around 9:30 i will work on my other business until about 11-12 pm. Yup pretty lazy to me!

Thanks for the personal attacks, like i said when you have no other valid logical argument they seem to be the old standby.

I have been waiting for you to call me an asshole, that would make my day.

[gunny7258]

its actually cheaper and more effective to educate and rehabilitate alot of non violent drug related prisoners rather then lock them up.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', '
')Thanks for the personal attacks, like i said when you have no other valid logical argument they seem to be the old standby.

[gunny7258]

I am not getting pissy, i never once fired back with a name or negative comment directed towards some one.

My main point is that alot of people in the USA not Sudan not some third world country squander and never even try to take advantage of whats available to them and when they realize they are in a bad spot then look to the government to nurture them.

Plus the so called poor usually have a cell phone, cable TV, internet and alot of them smoke. So there is obviously money that can be spent on needs but people choose to spend them on wants!

Its a slippery slope and this "gimmie" attitude that is sweeping America will be our undoing.

[jdmartin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'Y')es i work for someone else but also have a internet based business that brings in another 30,000 a year so yes i do run my own business. I am the only one that does anything for my side business. I taught myself how to build websites from scratch, market them and sell products on them.

[centralstump]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'I') am not getting pissy, i never once fired back with a name or negative comment directed towards some one.

My main point is that alot of people in the USA not Sudan not some third world country squander and never even try to take advantage of whats available to them and when they realize they are in a bad spot then look to the government to nurture them.

Plus the so called poor usually have a cell phone, cable TV, internet and alot of them smoke. So there is obviously money that can be spent on needs but people choose to spend them on wants!

Its a slippery slope and this "gimmie" attitude that is sweeping America will be our undoing.

[gunny7258]

Cars will end america, sure ok. And global warming is real and not a scam to tax us to hell and beyond!

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', ' ')And global warming is real and not a scam to tax us to hell and beyond!