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Re: Hello from the nut house!

Postby Buggy » Mon 23 Jun 2008, 10:44:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Utopia', 'P')rep Quick...

As awareness increases the amount of items available will be dramatically reduced.

Then again, buying quick could cause shortages and panic..

I would really hate to be one waking up to peak oil right now.. It took me almost 5 years to come to terms with what peak oil is an it's ramifications, and even now it can catch me off-guard. To have all those emotions coupled with the fact they are unravelling as we speak would be a mental overload.

Try to stay calm, Try to stay ahead of the curve, panicing will do nothing but waste time.

Then again I'm a nut and prefer it that way.. Allows me to grow :)


My hand is presently over the panic button. Especially since as you said, we are watching it all unravel as we speak. Just tell me when to push!
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Re: Hello from the nut house!

Postby Utopia » Mon 23 Jun 2008, 10:57:48

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')My hand is presently over the panic button. Especially since as you said, we are watching it all unravel as we speak. Just tell me when to push!


Well the mass sheeple have not yet caught on, but the discontent is moving up through the ranks now. I have seen some of the more conservative people I know start buying preps themselves.

Doomers: Prepped (Watching American Unravelling)
Conservative: (Prepping)
Sheeple: (Watching American Idol)

When the Sheeple start to prep. Watch out, because they usually do it with a major amount of panicking and disorder, all whilst screaming "WHY DIDN'T THE GOVERNMENT TELL ME!!!!!"

Edit: I have picked several families that I use as my barometer. My ultimate sheeple family is sadly my in-laws, where I have been asked to not talk about peak oil in their house because it is "Too depressing" when they prep, I'm bugging out.
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Re: Hello from the nut house!

Postby Buggy » Mon 23 Jun 2008, 11:15:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Utopia', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Sheeple: (Watching American Idol)


Now that's funny!

My father-in-law would be my panic gauge then. He worked for BP and now is working for the Electric Company. According to him, we just need to drill more. I will not even attempt to engage him in a PO discussion. He's too busy blowing all his money, sinking in credit card debt taking my mother-in-law on cruises.
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Re: Hello from the nut house!

Postby Wren » Mon 23 Jun 2008, 12:27:03

Buggy, welcome. I suggest reading as close to everything here as you can. The planning for the future thread has done a lot for me. My parents think I'm a doomsday nut job. I've also heard I'm "too angry", but how that relates, not sure.
Also, read lots of books. Read read read. and start doing the real work NOW.
Good luck to you! Glad you're here!
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Re: Hello from the nut house!

Postby Buggy » Mon 23 Jun 2008, 14:17:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wren', 'B')uggy, welcome. I suggest reading as close to everything here as you can. The planning for the future thread has done a lot for me. My parents think I'm a doomsday nut job. I've also heard I'm "too angry", but how that relates, not sure.
Also, read lots of books. Read read read. and start doing the real work NOW.
Good luck to you! Glad you're here!


Thanks! Let the games begin.
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Hi from Houston

Postby Zel » Mon 23 Jun 2008, 14:38:34

Hi all. I've been lurking for a few months and finally got around to signing up.

I'm still in the prep stage and probably will be for some time, based on finances. My garden is in, my pantry continues to fill up, and I'm going to try my hand at canning this fall (with my fingers crossed, because I really don't want to blow up my kitchen).

You've all been a great source of info. I'm glad to be here. ^__^
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Re: Hi from Houston

Postby Cashmere » Mon 23 Jun 2008, 14:43:05

Welcome.
Massive Human Dieoff <b>must</b> occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where <b>you</b> live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
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Re: Hi from Houston

Postby misterno » Mon 23 Jun 2008, 18:43:57

Hello from Houston too

Glad to see one more Houstonian here..
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Re: Hi from Houston

Postby wisconsin_cur » Mon 23 Jun 2008, 19:09:02

Welcome and thank you for introducing yourself. don't be afraid to ask if you have any questions. Since you've been lurking around for a while don't be afraid to chime in as you feel comfortable

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Postby Em » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 05:05:38

Hi Im pretty new to peak oil nd still have alot to learn. i have been reading mountains of imformation on the net but does anyone know what sort of time frame we are looking at until all hell breaks loose? judging by the current situation with oil price rises etc it can't be too far...
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Re: new member

Postby wisconsin_cur » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 05:10:12

Welcome! I think you will find a variety of opinions in this on-line community about when what will happen and where. Look around make your self at home. As you develop your own assessment of the situation I would recommend the Planning for the Future forum.

and if you have any questions please feel free to ask.

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Re: new member

Postby Rogozhin » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 05:15:32

Welcome to the best forum around!

It's not really predictable, what you're asking about as a timeframe for the ultimate collapse of our civilization.

Focus on being as self-sufficient as possible and living an examined life.
"Those who long for exaltation look upwards, but I look downward for I am the exalted."

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Re: new member

Postby Em » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 05:21:04

Of course i dn't think this is an overnight thing nor am i asking for a exact date it would just be hopefully to have an idea. i will have a good look at the other forums on preperation thanx guys
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Re: new member

Postby Cashmere » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 05:27:08

To an extent it's not predictable.

I think most agree on this site that social instability will continue to worsen as time goes by.

Many think there will be gas/diesel shortages within 3-5 years.

Many think we may be out of liquid fuels as a source of transportation for the average schmuck within 10 years.

Many think that the electrical grid will go down within 10-20 years.


Many think otherwise.

I agree with the above numbers.

My worst case scenario numbers are . . .

shortages within 24 months, permanent supply disruption within 3 years, out of liquid fuel for casual use within 5 years, grid down w/in 10 years.

If we make the insane decision to bomb Iran, liquid fuel permanent rationing within 3 months of the first kaboom.
Massive Human Dieoff <b>must</b> occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where <b>you</b> live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
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Hi from Sapporo Japan. Not new To Peak oil....

Postby hidari » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 00:54:14

But new to the forum. Have been following PO for 4 or 5 years. Finally decided to join this forum. There seems to be a good range of opinions here.

Will try to give some info on How people in Hokkaido are dealing with PO and other related issues.
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Re: Hi from Sapporo Japan. Not new To Peak oil....

Postby Cashmere » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 01:23:25

Wow. Japan.

Great to have you aboard - I will look forward to seeing your input.

I wish I knew more about Japan.
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Re: Hi from Sapporo Japan. Not new To Peak oil....

Postby cabbage » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 01:27:22

Hi there hidari. I live in South Korea, close to Pusan. I've been reading these forums for a while now, but haven't seen anyone from this area of the world posting. When I saw this thread I thought I would register to say hi and make the acquaintance of someone in my general region. I haven't found very many folks who are familiar with peak oil around here... how about your friends or family in Japan?
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Re: Hi from Sapporo Japan. Not new To Peak oil....

Postby Mudpuppy » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 01:51:02

Hey there Hidari.
I`m also in Japan (Tokai region, but inaka, so a place of about 10,000 people, have been here for four years, originally from New Zealand).

Expensive oil and Hokkaido is getting interesting. I read in the Asahi shinbun that many small communities in Hokkaido are going bankrupt because they rely on winter vegitables in glass houses as a main form of local economy. But with high oil prices that becomes more and more unreliable.

I often wonder how th Hokkaido area will deal with expensive oil. But it seems you guys up there have soo much more experience in dealing with the cold (insulation etc), that maybe it will be better in Hokkaido than places like Aoimori across the straight in Honshuu.

Welcome to the board.
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Re: Hi from Sapporo Japan. Not new To Peak oil....

Postby hidari » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 02:05:19

Ta for the reply. I have been in Hokkaido for a short time. i am spreading the word about PO as much as I can here. So far people are interested. I am married to a Japanese. Her family and friends are slowly becoming aware of the problem due to gas and prices of all products going up in Japan.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cabbage', 'H')i there hidari. I live in South Korea, close to Pusan. I've been reading these forums for a while now, but haven't seen anyone from this area of the world posting. When I saw this thread I thought I would register to say hi and make the acquaintance of someone in my general region. I haven't found very many folks who are familiar with peak oil around here... how about your friends or family in Japan?
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Re: Hi from Sapporo Japan. Not new To Peak oil....

Postby hidari » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 02:12:51

Ta Mudpuppy. Yes. Hokkaido is interesting. I just married and am going to be here Post Peak. So, It will be interesting to post and watch what happens in Hokkaido.

The economy is down compared to Honshu. but the smaller population is a bonus-6 million- along with plenty of agriculture.

At least Japan in self sufficient in Rice. However, they need to increase production of other foods in the next year. Especially Kyushu which has 2 full growing seasons.

Insullation. : much better than Honshu. I did two years in Osaka and froze in the winter. I also lived in Russia for 7 years and Found Honshu much colder in the winter.

Hokkaido uses spot heating , but the buildings are well insulated for winter and the winters here are not as bad a Russia.

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mudpuppy', 'H')ey there Hidari.
I`m also in Japan (Tokai region, but inaka, so a place of about 10,000 people, have been here for four years, originally from New Zealand).

Expensive oil and Hokkaido is getting interesting. I read in the Asahi shinbun that many small communities in Hokkaido are going bankrupt because they rely on winter vegitables in glass houses as a main form of local economy. But with high oil prices that becomes more and more unreliable.

I often wonder how th Hokkaido area will deal with expensive oil. But it seems you guys up there have soo much more experience in dealing with the cold (insulation etc), that maybe it will be better in Hokkaido than places like Aoimori across the straight in Honshuu.

Welcome to the board.
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