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Re: Is this your bugout camp?

Unread postby Revi » Sat 28 Oct 2006, 17:17:19

When I lived withe the Mayans in Guatemala we used to eat wasp larvae out of the comb. Not bad at all. They were always giving me some delicacy. Different cultures eat different things. They were on the verge of starvation sometimes, before the corn was ready, so wasp larvae seemed like excellent food.
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Re: Is this your bugout camp?

Unread postby coyote » Sun 29 Oct 2006, 20:15:55

I can recommend roasted grasshoppers. Flavor is a little sharp at first, takes some getting used to. But the cultural inhibition is the biggest hurdle; after a couple it's like popcorn. I understand it's a common snack down in Mexico.
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Re: Is this your bugout camp?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 29 Oct 2006, 23:01:09

I'm sold! no more insectophobia for me. but I'm thinking it would easier to catch lots of earthworms. all you need is a shovel. they are everywhere, just below the surface. a pot full of earthworms, a few bugs, and a bird: "Bird Stew!" are snails good to eat? snails and worms: it's going to take some convincing to get the kids to eat it, that and hunger. don't forget climbing trees to rob nests.
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Re: Is this your bugout camp?

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Mon 30 Oct 2006, 10:56:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', ' ')are snails good to eat?
Even the culinarily sophisticated French think that escargot (a.k.a. Brown Garden Snails) are a delicacy. Ironically those same French brown garden snails have become a significant imported agricultural pest in California because nobody wants to eat them. Link
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Re: Is this your bugout camp?

Unread postby davep » Mon 30 Oct 2006, 11:36:08

Escargots are only good when accompanied by a decent garlic butter sauce. Mmmmm
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Re: Is this your bugout camp?

Unread postby coyote » Mon 30 Oct 2006, 13:56:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'E')scargots are only good when accompanied by a decent garlic butter sauce. Mmmmm

Pesto works nicely too. When I was at a restaurant in France they also had these tiny black-shelled water snails for appetizers, you'd pull the meat from the shell with a toothpick and dip into sauce. Also yummy.

Safety tip: garden snails (the kind used for escargot) have to be fasted for a couple days to empty their digestive tracts before you can eat them safely. We can eat the snails, but the stuff they eat will make you sick!
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Re: Is this your bugout camp?

Unread postby Ferretlover » Thu 29 May 2008, 20:16:29

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Re: Is this your bugout camp?

Unread postby DomusAlbion » Thu 29 May 2008, 21:03:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'D')id anyone see the PBS "Pioneer House" (I think that was the name) where several families were set up in living conditions mid 1800's out in Wyoming to see how they would do?

That was a great show. It was located in Montana, actually.

One couple was a mixed race set of newlyweds and it was judged that they would survive the winter.
One group was a blended family and they ended up fighting too much and not talking to each other for awhile. Needless to say they did not do as well and in a follow up segment they had separated.
The last was a wealthy family from SoCal. The father had his company manufacture a beautiful copper still that he took with them. They were judged as unprepared by the end of summer because the father had not collected and split enough firewood.
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Re: Is this your bugout camp?

Unread postby cowuvula » Fri 30 May 2008, 02:32:14

Give you a bit more respect for the pilgrims, don't it?

Arrived in winter, survived, no modern conveniences.

Tough people.

So, if when the pilgrims arrived there were 200,million hungry indians ready to take anything you grow out of your garden what are their chances of surviving?

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Re: Is this your bugout camp?

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Fri 30 May 2008, 09:57:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'P')art of me wants to call up the Forest Service and rat him out, the other part wants to just let him be. What would you do?

I'd leave them alone & offer them some old issues of National Geographic for their coffee table.

I'd love to see the pics you took - any way to fix those links ?
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Re: Is this your bugout camp?

Unread postby Jenab6 » Fri 30 May 2008, 23:15:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', 'A')s gego suggested, I would start by bugging-in, where, as Ludi suggested, I have lots of dry beans and rice sitting around. When that is gone, the fact that I view things such as insects and dandelions as potential food and medicine, while my suburban neighbors view them as pests and weeds, should go a ways toward keeping me from starving.

I've been looking into foraging as a primary means of sustenance, and I've learned that whereas vitamins are easy to come by, calories are not. A pound of dandelion leaves (about 500) will give you most or all of your FDA recommended daily allowance of vitamins and minerals, but there will be only about 100 calories in that pound. Likewise for just about every other "green" you're likely to find.

In order to forage calories, you need either to find fruit, nuts, tubers, or grains growing wild year-round, or else to find such energy-dense foods in a form that will keep through the months you can find no such foods. That's why I planted so many walnut trees on my property, and also why most of my apple trees are "keepers" like goldrush, fuji, yellow newtown pippin, and braeburn.
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Re: Is this your bugout camp?

Unread postby dunewalker » Sat 31 May 2008, 00:58:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 't')he singing turtle clan, eating all the bugs and earthworms in their path as they sing like the Von Trapps. One thing, why wouldn't you want to kill the bears and cougars and roast them on a spit under the prairie sky, dappled with flickering stars?

It was a joke, PMS. :P In the event of empty grocery stores, the Turtle Tribe will not really take a 1500 + mile journey in search of smallpoxgirl. So there will be no singing of drunken turtle tunes on the plains of Montana or in the forests of Montana. I am sorry to disappoint you. :razz:

Why not? Chief Joseph did it:

"With 2000 U.S. soldiers in pursuit, Joseph and other Nez Perce chiefs led 800 Nez Perce toward freedom at the Canadian border. For over three months, the Nez Perce outmaneuvered and battled their pursuers traveling 1,700 miles (2,740 km) across Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Joseph
The Lewis & Clark expedition depended on dogs for sustenance:

"Did you know that the Corps of Discovery frequently ate dogs?

Puppy chops haven't made it into any of the recent cookbooks offering recipes from the Lewis and Clark expedition, but the Indians ate dogs and so did the members of the expedition when nothing else was available.

In the dry areas of what is now eastern Washington, in fact, where there was little if any game and the only other choice was dried salmon, usually impregnated with sand, the men came to prefer dog.

Their favorite foods were always elk, beaver tail, and buffalo, and when they were struggling up the Missouri the men ate prodigious amounts of it, up to nine pounds of meat per man per day. But dogs would do if dogs were all that they could get. Only Clark abstained. He couldn't bring himself to eat dog meat."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... clark.html
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