[seldom_seen]

Yeah, so I was deer hunting over the weekend and I went to check in on an area that I discovered last year that had some promise. It's US Forest Service land that was replanted probably 20-30 years ago. Lots of nice open meadow in certain areas and numerous wild rhododendrons.

I started up a well worn trail off a small spur logging road, when I came across this campsite of sorts. I felt like I was in a hollywood movie, and was just waiting for a haggard vietnam veteran to leap out of the woods with a bowie knife at my neck.


It looks like someone has dug out the hillside a bit. The moss on the ground is not natural but was placed there. As well as the hay in the upper left corner.


Here we have a rectangular hole in the ground, with some wood beams placed around the perimeter at the base. Anyone want to speculate what this is for?


A fairly elaborate rockery has been created which I can only assume is to be the firepit. Notice in the top center there is a pile of spent shell casings.


Here is a closer look at the rockery/firepit.


Old glory. Patriot or false flag?

I made it out of there without getting snared or falling in a pit trap. I have to say I liked the camp and actually wouldn't mind camping there. It was very clean and organzied and whoever was putting it together seemed like they had a purpose. They weren't just slumming on public land.

On the other hand, this camp was only a short walk down an established game/human trail from a logging road. It has a very low level of stealthiness. If this is some sort of bugout camp, they guy isn't going to last too long hanging right off the road. I'm also a little pissed that he put his camp right where I like to go deer hunting, and decided to uproot the forest floor for his custom carpeting.

Part of me wants to call up the Forest Service and rat him out, the other part wants to just let him be. What would you do?

[strider3700]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'W')hat would you do?

[PolestaR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'a')nd was just waiting for a haggard vietnam veteran to leap out of the woods with a bowie knife at my neck.

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('strider3700', 'S')et up a well hidden camp and watch to see if he is going to put anything worth taking in the ground?

[evilmonkeyspanker]

Make sure to pee on it first. Mark your territory

[Dreamtwister]

Looks like someone is setting up a grow op. The forest service has had a lot of problems with that lately. I bet if you go back there in June/July, you could score some really good reefer. Watch out for the guys who are running it though, they don't screw around. They will stick a shotgun in your face just for walking nearby.

[Zardoz]

What a waste of time and effort.

[gego]

What is the likelyhood that someone could survive for even a year in a bug out camp? It would be hard enough for most people to survive with an adequate home and land, and with self sufficiency skills.

I personally think this survivalist, bug out fantacy is just that, a fantacy with little chance of actually working.

[markam]

Dammit, you found Dick Cheney's undisclosed location. Now that it is disclosed, he is going to have to move.

[Laughs_Last]

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[PrairieMule]

Looks like someone has set up camp right where all the runoff will pool at the first hard rain. Oh well, education is never cheap nor free.

[holmes]

I think they just built a camp. im not sure a bug out one. Yeah bugout is basically worhtless. maybe good for a short time after shtf. But after that u want to get into a collective situation.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', ' ')But after that u want to get into a collective situation.

[gego]

Did anyone see the PBS "Pioneer House" (I think that was the name) where several families were set up in living conditions mid 1800's out in Wyoming to see how they would do?

They started out in the spring, and by the autumn were not ready for the winter and would not likely have survived. If they did not have provisions to begin with they would not even made it through the summer, and as it was they lost weight, both from hard work and lack of food. They were hungry enough so that they fried and ate a rattlesnake.

Were the electric grid to fail completely, as Richard Duncan has considered, people would suddenly be thrust back in time, and I imagine the results would not be very good, to say the least.

I think bug in might work better than bug out.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', '
')I think bug in might work better than bug out.

[Ludi]

A rattlesnake is perfectly good (if somewhat dangerous) food. One of the reasons folks starve is because they can't/don't identify local food sources, but insist on eating what they are used to eating. In the case of many of us now (not many on this board, but I mean many modern folks) is we don't even identify such things as dry beans or whole grains as food, we can't even cook for ourselves anymore, forget about being able to grow or hunt our own food.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'D')id anyone see the PBS "Pioneer House" (I think that was the name) where several families were set up in living conditions mid 1800's out in Wyoming to see how they would do?

They started out in the spring, and by the autumn were not ready for the winter and would not likely have survived. If they did not have provisions to begin with they would not even made it through the summer, and as it was they lost weight, both from hard work and lack of food. They were hungry enough so that they fried and ate a rattlesnake.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '
')Spending a long hard day behind a plow growing a single crop or two that may or may not survive until harvest is not the way I would choose to feed myself if the grocery stores go empty.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'h')ow would you feed yourself if the grocery stores go empty?