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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Wed 07 May 2008, 20:35:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '[') A guy is gay or he is straight,


or both


I don't understand that, but sure alrighty. I guess I understand bi-women. But... oh well not my cup of tea. But to each their own.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 07 May 2008, 20:36:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', ' ')But to each their own.


That's the spirit! :)
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby mercurygirl » Wed 07 May 2008, 20:52:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercurygirl', ' ')Women made me gay, sorry, don't buy it.


Well now, if a guy is bisexual and it's just easier to date guys than gals, and he doesn't feel like working harder at it or being alone, he might just go out with guys and skip gals entirely.


It could be argued that if he doesn't feel like working harder at it, then he doesn't have much enthusiasm for the opposite sex. I'd call that gay.

I don't really understand the bisexual label. I think it's a phenomenon of youth as a time of experimentation and our society in which it's increasingly ok to do so. Most people probably shake out into preferring one sex or the other over time.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 07 May 2008, 20:59:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercurygirl', '
')I don't really understand the bisexual label. I think it's a phenomenon of youth as a time of experimentation and our society in which it's increasingly ok to do so. Most people probably shake out into preferring one sex or the other over time.



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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby mercurygirl » Wed 07 May 2008, 21:17:50

Well, I guess there's some kind of spectrum between hetero and homo. I really don't care about anyone's sexuality unless I'm going to sleep with them and that's not likely these days. :lol:

I still think most people will eventually identify with same-sex or other-sex.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 07 May 2008, 21:51:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercurygirl', 'W')ell, I guess there's some kind of spectrum between hetero and homo. I really don't care about anyone's sexuality unless I'm going to sleep with them and that's not likely these days. :lol:
Well, you've got a sexy name and a sexy avatar. :) That makes you sexy in cyber space.

On another note, for the guys who think women are all witches and takers, that's nonsense. There are givers and takers on both sides of the gender divide. And as for the notion that women have no libido, pffft.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby Baldwin » Wed 07 May 2008, 22:12:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I')t is actually funny, when I was fat.. people wouldn't even look at me, now that I worked my ass off and got in shape, I get all sorts of attention. It is actually disconcerting when you think about it. I mean the primary reason I got back into shape was because of peakoil and due to my own fears of being physically prepared should the shit ever hit the fan, but I also Know I did it to make myself more attractive to women. But it bothers me alot, because I have always had the same personality but now that I am in shape people can see past it, but before I never got any respect, people didn't listen to me. It is like being in shape for some reason makes people want to listen to you more. It bothers me a little.

When I use to talk about peak oil and depletion economics, people laughed me off, but now people are listening and I am just wondering is it only because people are listening to the person they see, are they listening because of the news, or is there some other factor that I am missing?

Or maybe I am just paranoid, okay well we know that is true. Though still not as crazy as our resident firefighter.


In mid November of 2007, I had enough of being 210 lbs. I decided to go till I had a 6 pick. Still working at it, though I am 170-175 on a 5'11" frame. I had survival, PO, and college girls in mind when I chose to lose the weight. (I'm 18. I wasn't going to start at a university on another continent as "the fat American kid")

You're absolutely right about respect. Even the way I am regarded now in my senior year of high school has changed dramatically. No one listens to the 210 pound kid with glasses right? For whatever reason, the 170-75 guy does. I am saying the exact same things. When I preach about economics or oil, people listen. They don't stare at me like the sheeple would at David Icke.

My goal is to have a 6 pack by 12 noon on Sunday, September 21, because I'll have arrived at St. Andrews University of Scotland. I am hoping for a European adventure of sex, mead, whiskey, a trip to Switzerland with my true love, and a degree. I have extremely little (less than 10 hours) of experience with the fairer sex. I go to an all male school and never felt like wandering around the neighborhood with people I didn't really care for (some people call them friends.)

I have wildly unusual ideas on friendship, dating marriage. Friends are a serious commitment and grow to be your brothers and sisters. You'll have alot of fun, but you have to suffer with them if necessary. In dealing with the opposite sex, my idea is to have your fun in high school and college, then marry soon after college. I'd rather raise a family after college than work like a slave for a corporation. In the last year or two of uni, I'll be looking for more serious relationships.

Right now, the diet and exercise routine is going to a higher intensity.

But yeah, people judge you by your waistline, usually subconsciously.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 07 May 2008, 22:16:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', '
')But yeah, people judge you by your waistline, usually subconsciously.
Sometimes they judge you by your eyes and what's in them. There have been many fat men who could score left and right.

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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Wed 07 May 2008, 22:21:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I')t is actually funny, when I was fat.. people wouldn't even look at me, now that I worked my ass off and got in shape, I get all sorts of attention. It is actually disconcerting when you think about it. I mean the primary reason I got back into shape was because of peakoil and due to my own fears of being physically prepared should the shit ever hit the fan, but I also Know I did it to make myself more attractive to women. -snip- Or maybe I am just paranoid, okay well we know that is true. Though still not as crazy as our resident firefighter.
In mid November of 2007, I had enough of being 210 lbs. I decided to go till I had a 6 pick. Still working at it, though I am 170-175 on a 5'11" frame. I had survival, PO, and college girls in mind when I chose to lose the weight. (I'm 18. I wasn't going to start at a university on another continent as "the fat American kid")

You're absolutely right about respect. Even the way I am regarded now in my senior year of high school has changed dramatically. No one listens to the 210 pound kid with glasses right? For whatever reason, the 170-75 guy does. I am saying the exact same things. When I preach about economics or oil, people listen. They don't stare at me like the sheeple would at David Icke.
-snip- Right now, the diet and exercise routine is going to a higher intensity.But yeah, people judge you by your waistline, usually subconsciously.

Good Luck, I took me almost two years to go from 280 to 190 Then it took me another 6 months to turn my frame into what you see now. My workout routine.
MWF - Cardio (So done for speed)
3 Sets 100 Reps -- Situps / Crunches
3 sets 60 reps - Pushups
3 sets 20 reps -- Chinups
2 Mile Run -- Aim for 12 minutes or less.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 07 May 2008, 22:35:42

Good luck, guys, with the program. I don't think six pack abs is what you want, though. Dr. PMS is telling you, cultivate your humor and friendliness and forget about your abs.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Wed 07 May 2008, 22:37:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'G')ood luck, guys, with the program. I don't think six pack abs is what you want, though.



Sure it is, makes doing the laundry so much easier
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 07 May 2008, 22:43:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'G')ood luck, guys, with the program. I don't think six pack abs is what you want, though.

Sure it is, makes doing the laundry so much easier
Yeah, and some gay guy at the laundromat is going to notice your tight abs. :lol:
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby Heineken » Wed 07 May 2008, 23:03:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercurygirl', 'W')ell, he's got a point or two. Women made me gay, sorry, don't buy it.

I assume this alludes to me. How can you know whether to "buy it" when you don't know what you're talking about, Mercurygirl? What do you know of the gay experience? You're the one who would barely even kiss yourself. Anyway, I never said women made me gay. In fact, biologically I am most certainly not gay.

It was the absence of women that encouraged me to choose to be with men. Also my own exotic upbringing, which was very very different from that of most Americans. Basically I just decided to be "gay," because it was the path of least resistance and offered immediate rewards instead of endless frustration, pain, and financial burden. It was a rational decision, and overall it hasn't been a bad one. In fact, there are many times I thank my lucky stars I'm not slaving away supporting a family and contributing to overpopulation.

What really matters is having someone you love and trust, not what type of hole the pole is poked into. I have been in a loving, committed, completely monogamous relationship for the past 11 years. There are millions of gay couples like that, both gay and lesbian, living quietly and paying taxes. Many ancient Greeks and Romans considered gay relationships between men the highest form of love there was. Women were for procreation and running the household.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Wed 07 May 2008, 23:18:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercurygirl', 'W')ell, he's got a point or two. Women made me gay, sorry, don't buy it.

I assume this alludes to me. How can you know whether to "buy it" when you don't know what you're talking about, Mercurygirl? What do you know of the gay experience? You're the one who would barely even kiss yourself. -snip-

You know I think you are an okay guy right? But, I am going to have to say, that you are wrong. If you were not gay, you would not be able to be in a relationship with another dude. I am sorry, but you can't choose to find someone atttractive, you either like the cock or not. There really isn't two ways about it.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby threadbear » Wed 07 May 2008, 23:20:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercurygirl', 'W')ell, he's got a point or two. Women made me gay, sorry, don't buy it.

I assume this alludes to me. How can you know whether to "buy it" when you don't know what you're talking about, Mercurygirl? What do you know of the gay experience? You're the one who would barely even kiss yourself. -snip-

I find this all fascinating. The best movie I've seen in ages was "kinsey", particularly where he describes gender preference as on a continuum. People range all over the continuum and for many, living a gay or hetero life style, if they're in the mid range, or bi sexual, could be a choice, rather than their pre-ordained destiny.

I've had fleeting feelings of attraction to a couple of women, that I've seen on the street before. I found this somewhat unsettling until I realized that they were cross dressing lesbians who were actually more handsome than most men, albeit in a small boned way! :lol:

I don't think I could ever be with a woman like this, as their masculinity isn't fully expressed. However, many of them are probably more deeply masculine than a lot of men, so I can understand how a straight woman could end up in a committed relationship with a deeply masculine woman, of this type. The question would be, is the straight women, then a lesbian? Possibly not.

Perhaps you are resonating with a deep sensuousness that is almost feminine in quality, with your male partners, Heineken? I'm happy for you and appreciate that you haven't lived a life of quiet desperation, as so many do, in similar situation.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby mercurygirl » Wed 07 May 2008, 23:44:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercurygirl', 'W')ell, he's got a point or two. Women made me gay, sorry, don't buy it.

I assume this alludes to me.How can you know whether to "buy it" when you don't know what you're talking about, Mercurygirl? What do you know of the gay experience? You're the one who would barely even kiss yourself. -snip-

No, dear H. I didn't mean to single you out. It was more the idea as expanded upon by subsequent posters. You're right, I don't know much about the gay experience. I have kissed a few girls and had opportunities to do more, had gay friends, etc. I've felt physical attraction to some women, but never in a way that included desire for sexual relations. More like I could cuddle up to them. Like I said, I just don't swing that way.

I hear you saying you "chose" and "decided" on your orientation as the path of least resistance. Nothing wrong with that. I guess some don't get to choose and some do. Your choice was right for you and I'm glad you're happy. However, if you were definitely hetero, rejection couldn't have made you change your mind, any more than it did me when my first big crush told me to get lost.
Maybe you're conclusively bi, on which subject I noted I'm fairly ignorant.

I found some of the posts generalizing about all women in extremely negative ways troubling. I wonder why you brought up the Greco-Roman societal norms? I think we can agree that their attitudes were appropriate for their time, but no longer.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Thu 08 May 2008, 00:15:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', 'I')n mid November of 2007, I had enough of being 210 lbs. I decided to go till I had a 6 pick.

only time i ever had a 6 pack was in 1989-1990. i swam 11 10K's in 1989. i wonder if this thread will be the longest PO thread ever. like the miracle candle that inspired the Chanukah candle, an eternal source of enlightenment.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby misterno » Thu 08 May 2008, 00:19:03

Some people here and definitely OP needs serious psychological help.

God protect me from these psychos after PO.
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Re: If there was another you, would you have sex with yourse

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 08 May 2008, 01:08:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('misterno', 'S')ome people here and definitely OP needs serious psychological help.

God protect me from these psychos after PO.
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