[dukey]

according to NASA mars has got warmed by 0.5 degrees since 1970
i keep wondering if my car did that

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 720024.ece

[KevO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'a')ccording to NASA mars has got warmed by 0.5 degrees since 1970
i keep wondering if my car did that

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 720024.ece

[EnemyCombatant]

Since when is Dr Lovelock a new age guru.
His gaia theory has nothing to do with spirituality.

[KevO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'S')ince when is Dr Lovelock a new age guru.
His gaia theory has nothing to do with spirituality.

[aflurry]

It is too bad he named that book Gaia. The theory really belongs more to the Darwinian tradition than anything else.

By that i mean that Darwin's theory of natural selection showed how complexity could be explained by nothing more than entropy, which seems counterintuitive. But it is what makes the theory so beautiful and powerful.

Darwin's theory of species diversity requires genetic degeneration, survival of the fittest, and population isolation.

Lovelock expands that idea of population isolation into a more general theory of ecosystems, wherein the sum total of species diversification leads to another nonintuitive condition of self regulation, when taken as a complete system. The circumstances of that self regulation aren't supposed to be consciousness, but merely the entropy fed diversification, in it's specific form as described by Darwin.

Funny to me that today Darwin is attacked for being too non-spiritual, and Lovelock is attacked for being too spiritual. I just think of them as being so intertwined.

[Pixie]

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[Pixie]

In 1990, David Brin wrote a science fiction book called "Earth", set in 2038 in which a fictional englishwoman named "Jen Wolling" is referred to as "the mother of modern Gaia Theory." She's an obvious stand-in for James Lovelock, though she's supposed to be a step beyond him. Anyway, in the book, Brin writes about how millions of people develop a religion around her theories, though she herself is nothing more than a mathematician. There are hundreds of different sects, some of whom hate one another. Wolling herself finds it all amusing, and loves nothing better than to come out with a new theory or idea that totally f*cks with her supposed followers. It strikes me that Brin described Lovelock to a T!

[Zardoz]

Oh, what the hell. As long as we're racing toward the cliff with the pedal to the metal, it might as well be in something as absurd as this:







I wonder what that thing weighs? God, I hope it has a diesel engine.

[Plantagenet]

No---please---not a diesel engine.

It turns out that new scientific data shows that diesel engines release significant amounts of soot that, together with CO2 emissions, go into the upper atmosphere and cause more greenhouse warming then the CO2 would alone.

[Tanada]

Kewl beans, where can I test drive one of those monsters? It would certainly impress my F-150 driving co-workers more than my Honda Civic!

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'N')o---please---not a diesel engine.

It turns out that new scientific data shows that diesel engines release significant amounts of soot that, together with CO2 emissions, go into the upper atmosphere and cause more greenhouse warming then the CO2 would alone.

[Tanada]

Here is the main page if you want one of your very own!

LOOK!!!!!

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'H')ere is the main page if you want one of your very own!
LOOK!!!!!

[BigTex]

This truck is just the U.S. equivalent of the lip disc.



Just a gratuitous expression of local culture run amok.

The diameter of the disc is analogous to the diameter of the wheel on the monster truck.

[seldom_seen]

It's the moai of the modern age...

[PrairieMule]

Damnation Alley!

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '
')The diameter of the disc is analogous to the diameter of the wheel on the monster truck.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '
')The diameter of the disc is analogous to the diameter of the wheel on the monster truck.

[Tyler_JC]

NEW RULE:

Anyone caught driving that car must be liquified and fed to the masses.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'N')EW RULE:Anyone caught driving that car must be liquified and fed to the masses.