[PopeGideon]

Gotta disagree about Mexico. If worse comes to worse, they'll just create more "border guards" and such in the DHS.

Oil is everything, and therefore the armies of the Empire will be deployed to protect the oil.

[mos6507]

Hopefully yesterday.

[Roy]

Not until this country is completely broke, our ability to project power completely hamstrung, and Israel's ability to influence our politicians no longer exists. Which, due to the myopic leadership and the goal to maximize profitability at all costs, is exactly where we're headed. Once we are fiscally insolvent and unable to support Israel, they are done.

I just hope we still have the means to get our men and women who are stationed overseas home safely.

Personally, I think those soldiers would be doing a lot more to 'protect my freedom' by militarizing the southern border than they are currently doing by occupying Iraq, Afghanistan, and supporting the independence of Kosovo, among other things.

Ron Paul initially gave me some hope that Americans would catch on to the idea that playing world police is bankrupting the US and destroying the dollar. But, that concept was laughed off by the majority, he was called a 'kook' and a 'loon', and now we really are fucked.

Oh well, we (as a nation) will get what we deserve. We reap what we sow. Hence, I continue preparing for an uncertain future.

Which includes making sure my kids can speak Spanish unfortunately.

[Fishman]

Simple answer to the question, when Mexico no longer exports oil, we will no longer allow export of their people. That two years is about right.

[frankthetank]

Whats funny is all these US corporate fucks have moved a shitload of jobs down there. I hope the economy implodes and these assholes have no one to sell their junk too. We just had a big company north of here get rid of a bunch of decent jobs so they could move them to Mexico. Greed... fucking greed!

Lets hope they start pouring across that leaky border, by the 100's of thousands. Bring them up by truckload. We'll have an outright race war break out in this country.

[efarmer]

If they do deploy there after Iraq, we must first figure out a
way of protecting them from the dreaded Corona / Chorizo
chemical weapons from south of the border. These WMD's
(Weapons de Mala Digestion) are not to be taken lightly.

[Fishman]

Now Frank, will that war be between Obama's supporter and Hilleary's or some other group?

[skeptik]

Who is this 'Mexican Boarder' anyway?

..is he getting meals included?

[SILENTTODD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skeptik', 'W')ho is this 'Mexican Boarder' anyway?

[DomusAlbion]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skeptik', 'W')ho is this 'Mexican Boarder' anyway?

..is he getting meals included?

[Windmills]

I think the sealing of the border will have a stronger correlation with the unemployment rate in this country than anything else. When Americans become desperate for even the lowly jobs that migrants now do, changes will happen. When Americans are forced by necessity to take any job that pays anything, we'll make sure that not a single migrant is employed anywhere in this country, one way or another. Most of them will simply stop coming north because the opportunity has evaporated. Word on the street will also spread about how ugly and resentful things have gotten en el Norte and how much more dangerous it is to go. Border sealing efforts will receive much more funding and attention, and likely even quite a bit more volunteer support. And Hispanic Americans will get a dose of persecution.

[Rafa]

You seem to think that the immigration is something not wanted by the people at the White House... you are VERY ingeneous if you think that.

Actually, the immigration is not only tolerated, but also wanted and encouraged by the US administration; of course, that isn't publicly admitted.

But the fact is that the US administration wants low cost working force, that can be easily exploited, and deported if they start to claim for their rights; it is also a large pool of potential mercenaries and soldiers in times where the US armies have very hard to recruit.
Study a little history, and see how empires always do it when they have hard time to recruit troops, they recruit more and more among foreigners.

Oh, maybe the US administration will send troops to te frontier, but it would only be a show; troops will be largely corrupt, and made up in great proportion of people that not so longer ago crossed illegally that same frontier. It won't stop the flow.


The only effective action to stop the flow is not closing the border, but to be radical, that is go to the roots of the problem: the immigration will stop when the emigration will stop; that is, ensure that the mexican and others just enjoy a good live in their countries and don't want to go out.

Look at the migration statistics for countries like Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador; you can see that the flow of migration to the United States has decreased greatly, and there are even people going back home, since the arrival of the new nationalist governments there.
So, the most efficient way to ensure a decrease in the flow of illegal immigration into the United States would be to encourage those governments, instead of trying to overthrow them.

[Chesire]

Will those troops be there to keep the mexicans out or the mericans in ?

[heroineworshipper]

If Mexicans stop giving us free PT Cruisers, food, & landscaping, they'll have soldiers on their border soon enough.

[deMolay]

How long before Mexican Troops in California and Texas? That would be a better question.

[mos6507]

Who needs troops when they are already colonizing the US with their anchor babies?

[UncoveringTruths]

He did say, however, that Pemex was “taking extraordinary measures” to supply gasoline to that region, particularly in Tijuana, because of the massive influx of motorists from the United States who bought Mexican fuel, the news service reported.

Mexican government subsidies keep the fuel price lower than in the United States. A gallon of regular unleaded gas (87 octane) sells for $2.54, premium (91 octane) for $3.19 and diesel for $2.20.

Rationing of diesel began Friday, with gas stations nearest the border crossing receiving no new shipments since then. [/quote]

Diesel Shortage US/Mex Border

Wonder how long Pemex will continue letting US folks get cheap subsidized gas

[emersonbiggins]

And we wonder why California is experiencing budget shortfalls?

[UncoveringTruths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'A')nd we wonder why California is experiencing budget shortfalls?

[UncoveringTruths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ome say they can save up to $100 a month by filling up every two weeks in Mexico. The extra demand is causing shortages at hundreds of Mexico's border gas stations, some of which are starting to ration fuel.

"It's worth taking the risk even with the violence," said a retired California engineer named Terry, who declined to give his surname, as he filled his red Ford pick-up truck in Tijuana, over the border from San Diego.

"I know they could kill me or kidnap me, but the cost of filling my tank in the United States is just too much," he said.

Mexico's subsidized gasoline -- around $1.40 cheaper per gallon than in the United States -- is a huge draw as average U.S. pump prices hit an unprecedented $4 a gallon ($1.06 a liter). In West Coast cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles, prices are over $4.50 a gallon.