[Nicholai]

Last year I read about climate change on a daily basis. At the end of the year my teacher sat me down in his room cuz he was worried I was going to start drinking heavily. I was like, "How many copies of Shakespeare do you have? 40? 50? Do you have a wood burning stove? Good."

The school is also crumbling to pieces and I live in one of the richest cities in North America.

[Nicholai]

Triple POST WTF

[Nicholai]

Double post.

[shakespear1]

It is amazing reading this and thinking how much money is sinking into chasing Turbans in the desert. And this by Republicans who preached a smaller government and fiscal discipline. Unbelievable !!!!

[dorlomin]

Schooling is a long term investment that probibly does not start breaking even for society for 30 year after it begins. We are currently living on the investment of the 50s and the 60s, with that of the 70s and the 80s to become more dominant in the next ten years. It is another classic intergenerational theft, we are taking tomorrows wealth of educated work force and spending the money (and vastly less given what an educated worker gives back to a society) and spending it on our current follies.

It is a crime against not this generation of school children, but there children who will not have the same strength of economic and social base to build from.

Thats without factoring oil depletion economics.

[Cloud9]

If education is failing in this country it is because we have bought into a socialist lie. We insist that all children are equal. We tell them that they can be anything they want to be. We concentrate on building their self esteem at the expense of standards and we have done everything possible to shield them from the consequences of their acts. The result is a large population with a sense of entitlement that squanders the recourses expended on them.

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'I')f education is failing in this country it is because we have bought into a socialist lie. We insist that all children are equal. We tell them that they can be anything they want to be. We concentrate on building their self esteem at the expense of standards and we have done everything possible to shield them from the consequences of their acts. The result is a large population with a sense of entitlement that squanders the recourses expended on them.

[Chesire]

Yup and all you fucking retards that think its ok to give carte blanche for child beatings . Are o so civilized.
After your all done sittin on the front porch drinking boones' farm and looking for UFO'S.
Head back into your trailers and jump right in the sack with whatever family member 2 or 4 legged is closest.

[Alcassin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'I')f education is failing in this country it is because we have bought into a socialist lie.

[Cloud9]

The last principal I know that used corporal punishment was back in the 1990’s. He was put on the child abuse registry by the local FRS office. That pretty much ended the practice in our system. I don’t know what your experience with public education is, but I’m going to tell you again. Don’t bring a gun on campus. It will not end well for any of us.

[Cloud9]

The way the socialist lie is play out in our district is that we put on blinders and assume that each and every child is college bound. We are scrapping our vocational programs in the process.

[Alcassin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'W')e are scrapping our vocational programs in the process.

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'T')he way the socialist lie is play out in our district is that we put on blinders and assume that each and every child is college bound. We are scrapping our vocational programs in the process.

[lionstone]

You wouldn't believe chesire's potty mouth on latoc, and she's the one who doesn't want disipline in school, go figure.

[Chesire]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lionstone', 'Y')ou wouldn't believe chesire's potty mouth on latoc, and she's the one who doesn't want disipline in school, go figure.

[PhebaAndThePilgrim]

Good day from Pheba, from the farm:
There are some points concerning the education of children that most people miss.
First, there are just too many people, and too many little people. So we herd them like veal calves into overcrowded classrooms. They are reared like cogs in a wheel to be molded into worker drones for the machine that has become our existence.
The market is killing us. More important, the market is making us retarded. We had a family gathering this past Christmas with my hubby's family. His cousin has been a kindergarten teacher for almost 40 years. She and I began talking about the rise in autistic children. She disagreed that the mercury based preservative in vaccines had anything to do with it. She may be correct. The preservative was taken out of vaccines in 2001, and autism rates are skyrocketing in this country. Why?
My husband's cousin said that children today are actually "retarded", and totally unteachable. If she sees this in kindergarten then the problem is not just the school system. Where are all of these retarded children coming from. I do not use the word "retarded" lightly. By retarded I mean that the young of the species known as homo-sapien are not reaching their potential mental capacity. As a matter of fact it seems that we are rapidly becoming more retarded in our mental capacity all of the time.
I was a substitute teacher for several years. I finally had to quit. Today's children in the public school system are not teachable.
You could use all of the rulers you want, and encourage spanking, whatever, and you still could not teach these children.
Why?
I switched to Catholic schools for a while. Wow, talk about a difference. What intelligent kids. Even the kindergarten children were highly intelligent. Where does the difference come from?
I have met home-schooled children that were sharp as a tack.
I have also met home-schooled children that were so socially and mentally retarded that they would not even make eye contact.
The family that lives next door to my daughter claims to be home-schooling their children. The mother sleeps until noon, and if she is educating the children, nobody sees it. The oldest boy is seven, does not speak or make eye contact. Her children are dirty, drooling, violent, nasty kids. This woman is crazy, and she wants to have 12 children. Her religion believes she is "A vessel to be broken in childbearing". Yes, some faiths still believe this.
On the other hand I have a girlfriend and neighbor who raised her two girls by home-schooling them. Both girls were delightful children. they were bright, socially active, friendly kids. They both went to college and just breezed right through it. Both have good careers today and both are contributing members of society. Why?
What's the difference. Do we turn the education of our children over to parents who can vary from the slovenly mother in a cult, to the intelligent dedicated devoted mother?
Home-schooling is not easy. School plans, paperwork, teaching, grading, and all of this revolves around housework, grocery shopping, and all of the other normal life chores.
Home-schooled children need outside exposure with other children. I have a hunch that the boy who won't make eye contact is lacking in that outside exposure. His mother belongs to a cult that instills fear of outsiders constantly. I shudder to think what this young boy will become.
I think our public school system is doomed no matter how much money is thrown at it. Advertising aimed at kids just makes the "retardation" worse. I don't think the retardation of the minds of our children is caused just by our schools. I think that there is a deeper cause.
My theory as to what is causing this "retardation":
First, and foremost is nutrition. The diet fed to America's children is awful. Most brain growth is finished by the age of two. Sugar is the main component of most baby formula (read the label). Then toddlers are fed more and more sugar. Not just sugar, but high fructose corn syrup. The brain does not grow with sugar. The brain needs protein and nutrients to grow.
Second, the example of thinking that is set by their parents is dismal. Television, Television, television.
third, exposure to a plethora of chemicals and toxins that science has had no time to test on generations.
Personally I have a gut feeling that plastic exposure may be the cause behind the rise in autistic birth rates. Just my theory from what I am seeing. Several industrial nations have banned pthalates in plastics, the U.S. still uses them. By the way, never, never heat food in plastic in the microwave. very toxic.
The U.S. education system is a joke. They trudge along inventing newer and better methods of "educating" our kids, and they just don't get it. First you feed them, then you love them, then you set an example for them to follow:. then you educate them.
Morons raising morons.
If I had young children today I would home-school them, just to keep them out of the system. I am not a Christian. i am an atheist, and I would still home school them. Religion has no bearing on my decision. I just think the U.S. school system is a travesty.
Pheba.

[Roy]

Great post Pheba.

I think you nailed it there and I agree 100%

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', 'G')reat post Pheba.

I think you nailed it there and I agree 100%

[PhebaAndThePilgrim]

Good day from Pheba, from the farm:
Vision-Master. Actually my degree was nursing. I wanted to be a nutritionist. I developed lupus and could not fulfill my degree potential. I switched my degree to education. While I was taking classes to finish my second degree my mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer. I quit college to take care of her. Then I developed cancer. While I did survive, I was unable to go back to college. So, I was a substitute teacher for many years. I was able, like my husband's cousin, to see the changes in children over many years. Also, with an education foundation in nursing and nutrition I was witness to the link between what children ate and how it affected their abilities and potential.
I once taught a kindergarten class long term while the regular teacher was out on maternity leave.
The children were surly, headachy, and could not concentrate. I began to bring food with me in the mornings. I brought high protein snacks, cheese squares, crackers, etc. One morning my class of 21 babies. (to me they were babies, 5 years old is still a baby) gobbled up 8 packages of cheese and four boxes of crackers.
Unfortunately I could not afford to do this all of the time. With a high protein breakfast they were different children. The sad part of this is that the poorest of the poor were receiving free breakfast from the school. The children that were not receiving breakfast were the children from the higher income families.
I then told them that we were going to play a game. I asked all of the children that had eaten breakfast to raise their hands. 20% had eaten breakfast that morning. I then asked them how many of them had a tv set in their own room. Well over 50%. Then I asked them what they had watched on TV the night before. A good percent, I forget the exact number said Jay Leno, or David Letterman.
Poptarts and Captain Crunch is not breakfast. The amount of protein in milk that is consumed in sugared cereal is minimal. Children need protein.
I worked for 7 years as a volunteer at a local food bank. While free food keeps the children of the poor fed, it does not feed them protein. The main items given away by food banks are sugared and starchy foods. Children need protein.
We are poisoning our children with chemicals.
We are starving the brains or our children with high starch, high sugar, low protein diets.
We are destroying the capacity of our children to think by training them to be market drones.
Pheba.

[Flowerr]

No one will believe the truth.
so, have a nice day.