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Political compass: Self labeling

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General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

Postby katkinkate » Sat 05 Feb 2005, 19:40:57

Economic: -6
Social: -4

Liberty for the individual - control of corporation power!
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Postby mindfarkk » Sat 05 Feb 2005, 20:42:07

Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

right next to ghandi, nelson mandela, and the dalai llama, three of my favorite people.

i am in the gun club, by the way :)
what, me worry?
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Postby johnmarkos » Sat 26 Feb 2005, 17:39:41

You know, I'm wondering if the political near homogeneity of this site's participants is necessarily a good thing. It seems to me that as this community matures, it should start to move towards the center of the traditional political spectrum through the participation of people of many ideologies. I mean, obviously, I believe we bottom lefties are correct about everything but we will have greater diversity of thought, more interesting new ideas, and more vibrant dialogue if we welcome opposing viewpoints.

As peak oil moves more into the mainstream, we'll likely see more people who aren't in the traditional audience for such stuff. I think as a very broad generalization, people in the bottom left of this spectrum tend to be most familiar with ecological ideas such as carrying capacity. Because of this, we may want to think about ways of framing ecological ideas in language that is more accessible to those folks outside of the bottom left quadrant.

Also, we might want to think about the way we treat dissenting voices in general. I'm not talking about the typical newbie who walks in here and starts making absurd claims. I'm talking about people who have done all of the reading and for whatever reason, still disagree with the majority here. There are very few of these people. I firmly believe that even if most of us disagree with them vehemently, engaging with them in rational dialogue will make our understanding of the issues more complete.

On a more general note, I've been thinking lately about the disconnect between the stereotypical ecologist's view of the world and that of the stereotypical engineer. To sum up briefly, the engineer views the world as a set of problems to be solved, whereas the ecologist views the world as a holistic system. Each side has something to learn from the other.
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The New Political Compass

Postby k_semler » Sun 29 May 2005, 23:17:29

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

What quadrant are you in, and what are your coordinates? I am in the upper right quadrant, and my coordinates are:

Economic Left/Right: 3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.49
Here Lies the United States Of America.

July 04, 1776 - June 23 2005

Epitaph: "The Experiment Is Over."

Rest In Peace.

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Postby ArimoDave » Sun 29 May 2005, 23:30:40

Assuming your axes are X-Y, I am on the U-V plane. In other words, my political leanings are not in your plane of existance.


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PS, I haven't yet looked at your site yet.
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Postby k_semler » Sun 29 May 2005, 23:55:00

You must see that it is not the spoon that is bending, it is you that is bending. There is no spoon! :lol: LOL!
Here Lies the United States Of America.

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Postby ArimoDave » Mon 30 May 2005, 00:02:50

Damn,

I have a lot in common with Ghandi and The Dalai Lama.

Economic left (-1.63)

Social Liberarinaism (-4.72)]

Except, I am prepared to kill if neccessary.

ArimoDave

PS I still think I am in a different coordinate plane.
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Postby Jack » Mon 30 May 2005, 00:09:36

Economic Left/Right: 2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 7.38

Authoritarian? Me? 8)
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Postby lowem » Mon 30 May 2005, 00:22:19

There *is* no compass. The political landscape you see before you is an illusion ... :lol:
Live quotes - oil/gold/silver
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Postby k_semler » Mon 30 May 2005, 00:53:27

Do not adjust your television set. We control the vertical and the horizontal. We can take a single image and multiply it a thousand times, or magnify one to crystal clarity and beyond. Prepare yourself as we enter... The Outer Limits!
Here Lies the United States Of America.

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Postby johnmarkos » Mon 30 May 2005, 02:37:49

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Postby savethehumans » Mon 30 May 2005, 03:41:10

I even printed out a copy of my graph.

Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.38
(all negative--yep, that's me! :lol: )

I'm roughly in the same spot as Nelson Mandela. Not too shabby a place to be! :-D Close enough to Gandhi, though the Dalai Lama's a bit away from me. I like the idea of being closer to Libertarian than Authoritarian, but not TOO close! Of course, Left is right! **hee hee**

All in all, I'm cool with these results. Thanks for posting this, k_semler!
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Postby Russian_Cowboy » Mon 30 May 2005, 04:19:22

Interesting, looks like I am a centrist with respect to both axes

Economic Left/Right: 0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.31
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Postby 0mar » Mon 30 May 2005, 04:45:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'D')o not adjust your television set. We control the vertical and the horizontal. We can take a single image and multiply it a thousand times, or magnify one to crystal clarity and beyond. Prepare yourself as we enter... The Outer Limits!


Loved that series :D
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Postby katkinkate » Mon 30 May 2005, 07:22:22

Economic Left/Right: -6
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4
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Postby Tyler_JC » Mon 30 May 2005, 08:44:50

Economic: 5.25
Social: 2.46

I'm right next to Tony Blair.
...interesting...

When I took this same test back in February I was a
Economic 6.38
Social: 1.25

I was a little above Friedman then...
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Postby TheTurtle » Mon 30 May 2005, 09:00:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')conomic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54


I seem to be south of Gandhi and west of the Dalai Lama. :)
Yet oddly enough, like ArimoDave, I too am prepared to kill if necessary.
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Postby Trab » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 11:18:49

Interesting test!

Economic Left/Right: -6.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.56

About where Gandhi registers.

In my case, while I'm socially pretty liberal, I'm guessing my anti-corporate streak pushed me left pretty far. :-)
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Postby Tuike » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 19:01:27

Here we go...

Economic Left/Right: -1.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.00
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Postby smallpoxgirl » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 20:59:10

You guys were aware this topic has already been done.

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic4595.html
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