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Are you proud to be an American?

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Are you proud to be an American?

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and for you ride the fence types and afraid NSA is gonna track you down like a dog for answering "no" - here is the "I was" option.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby roccman » Wed 17 Oct 2007, 14:25:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'd')enverdave's claim that he hears voices advocating for nuclear genocide in the middle east coming out of his radio "all the time" is clearly delusional.

rocco's claim that 90 million Americans "view" a "Haggee" (whoever or whatever that is) is clearly untrue.

"I've had enough of watching scenes
Of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas
All I want is the truth now
Just gimme some truth"


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It's all there for you to hear and look at...

you choose not to listen and see...

There is no more that can be done.

John Lennon "you can lead a horse to water".

Oh well, so it goes.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby truecougarblue » Wed 17 Oct 2007, 14:28:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'W')ell ultimately Pride is a sin and America is really no better then any other country.


Correctamundo Novus. Anybody care to find me an example in the good book where the word pride or proud is used in a positive conotation?

That being said. I'm very pleased and happy to be American. It gives me opportunities for personal growth and has given me the chance to help others in ways not likely if I'd been born in a "casa de carton" in Bolivia.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby jbeckton » Wed 17 Oct 2007, 15:16:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('denverdave', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('denverdave', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '
') I doubt very much there are many folks who consider themselves patriots who think they are "better" than someone else because they don't live here. I have never felt that way at all.


There are plenty of "patriotic" Americans who think America has the right to bomb the crap out of anyone who doesn't put our interests ahead of their own. Just listen to any a.m. talk radio show, and you will hear all kinds of right wing gasbags advocating nuclear genocide in the middle east.


I did not say that a majority of people hold these views, or that radio stations are endorsing it, merely that there is a sizable minority of individuals do.


There is a sizeable minoriy of people from any contry that endorse just about anything. What is your point?
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby Plantagenet » Wed 17 Oct 2007, 16:25:45

denverdave:

Are the "sizeable minority" you claim want to create a nuclear genocide in the middle east the source of the imaginary voices you hear all the time calling for genocide on "any program" you hear on your a.m. radio? :P
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby max_power29 » Wed 17 Oct 2007, 18:23:26

I am an american and most americans I meet or interact with are utterly retarded sheople.

I have never travelled the world so I don't know if all people are like this or if it is unique to just americans
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby roccman » Wed 17 Oct 2007, 18:57:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('truecougarblue', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'W')ell ultimately Pride is a sin and America is really no better then any other country.


Correctamundo Novus. Anybody care to find me an example in the good book where the word pride or proud is used in a positive conotation?

That being said. I'm very pleased and happy to be American. It gives me opportunities for personal growth and has given me the chance to help others in ways not likely if I'd been born in a "casa de carton" in Bolivia.


The "good book" is a pile of horse shit.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby jbeckton » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 08:29:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('max_power29', 'I') am an american and most americans I meet or interact with are utterly retarded sheople.

I have never travelled the world so I don't know if all people are like this or if it is unique to just americans


I have traveled the world, not unique. The fatness is, but not the level of intelligence.

I have spent quite a bit of time in Europe.......talk about thinking you are better than everyone else. Defiantly not uniquely American!

I do have a soft spot for Spain; I don't think I saw a single unattractive woman in the 5 weeks I was there.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby Plantagenet » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 11:52:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('max_power29', 'I') have never travelled the world so I don't know if all people are like this or if it is unique to just americans


It sad how many Americans don't make an effort to travel and so are ignorant about the rest of the world. :roll:
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby greenworm » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 12:15:22

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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby greenworm » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 12:16:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t sad how many Americans don't make an effort to travel and so are ignorant about the rest of the world.


You'd have to be a fool to travel the world at this time, not really cost effective, we are in the middle of a supposed fuel crisis, umm, HELLO!

Proud to be an american, not in the least, I loathe what this country stands for and how this fascist empire was built. Nationalistic sheep is all you are, manipulated to the end. Sad and pathetic that you don't even understand it.

Proud to be a native american, yes, yes I am with all my heart.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby jbeckton » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 14:24:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', '
')Proud to be a native american, yes, yes I am with all my heart.


You just got lucky that no one was home when you got here.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby roccman » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 14:29:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jbeckton', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', '
')Proud to be a native american, yes, yes I am with all my heart.


You just got lucky that no one was home when you got here.


I think we have a new candidate for the title of "expert".

Nice JB - you will fit right in here.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby jbeckton » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 14:35:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jbeckton', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', '
')Proud to be a native american, yes, yes I am with all my heart.


You just got lucky that no one was home when you got here.


I think we have a new candidate for the title of "expert".

Nice JB - you will fit right in here.


No one is saying that what the Europeans did to the Indians was justified, just that they only arrived here by following the same instincts-expand and flourish.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby greenworm » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 18:11:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou just got lucky that no one was home when you got here.


I actually don't agree with this, there is more than enough proof that the white man coincided with the red man for sometime in this land, it wasn't until the European empire arrived full force that genocide occurred. The reason I am proud of my heritage is because of the prophecy knowledge that they shared with me, which shows a true caring for humanity, you don't find this in white culture at all. Sorry, facts are facts.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby jbeckton » Fri 19 Oct 2007, 07:47:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou just got lucky that no one was home when you got here.


I actually don't agree with this, there is more than enough proof that the white man coincided with the red man for sometime in this land, it wasn't until the European empire arrived full force that genocide occurred. The reason I am proud of my heritage is because of the prophecy knowledge that they shared with me, which shows a true caring for humanity; you don't find this in white culture at all. Sorry, facts are facts.


What does any of that have to do with what you quoted me on? Do you really think if the first Indians that crossed the land bridge found that there were other Indians already there, they would have just turned around and went home?

No, the Indian tribes that were located throughout the Americas were constantly warring over the areas that contained the most resources. The idea is the same, only the scale is different.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby greenworm » Fri 19 Oct 2007, 10:36:50

You made it sound like the Indians were lucky that no one was here, right, please make yourself clear that would help the discussion. If this is what you are saying then you are wrong. If this is not what you are saying then please clearly say what it is that you would like to express.

I am proud to be a native american for reasons that you are not arguing against or for. It is like you are trying to make a point, however, your point has nothing to do with mine.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby jbeckton » Fri 19 Oct 2007, 11:00:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', 'Y')ou made it sound like the Indians were lucky that no one was here, right, please make yourself clear that would help the discussion.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jbeckton', 'Y')ou just got lucky that no one was home when you got here.


How is that not clear?

Where did I say that you cannot be proud of your heritage? My point is that you cannot claim that all Indians lived in harmony with each other. They constantly battled over the land which contained the most resources, which is the same instinct that drives the white man now.

Like it or not, its human instinct and no successful large group in history has been immune to it.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby greenworm » Fri 19 Oct 2007, 11:21:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y point is that you cannot claim that all Indians lived in harmony with each other.


Show me where I said that. You see, you are having an argument with yourself, don't worry, you are bound to win. :lol:
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby jbeckton » Fri 19 Oct 2007, 14:13:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y point is that you cannot claim that all Indians lived in harmony with each other.


Show me where I said that. You see, you are having an argument with yourself, don't worry, you are bound to win. :lol:


You were the one that questioned my post, apparently for no reason I guess.
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Re: Are you proud to be an American?

Postby greenworm » Sat 20 Oct 2007, 11:29:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou were the one that questioned my post, apparently for no reason I guess.


We're done talking, remember, the density of your brain seems to be expanding at too rapid a rate to understand the reality around you, maybe you should give back the expert tag and settle for the dunce cap.

You started a tangent and yes you did, read it you pathetic fool, stating that "native americans were just lucky that no one was here (US)". Now this was in relation to my being proud of their having the smarts to leave prophetic signs across the land. You see, your having a conversation with yourself, you are an idiot. Get a fucking life or job or something and stop wasting your silly time talking to yourself. There's medication for that you know.
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