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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby mkwin » Sun 08 Jul 2007, 07:33:08

From Here: http://nuclearinfo.net/

Reasonably assured reserves (or proven reserves) refers to known commercial quantities of Uranium recoverable with current technology and for a specified price. The terms additional and speculative reserves refer to extensions to well explored deposits or in new deposits that are thought to exist based on well defined geological data.

As of the beginning of 2003 World Uranium reserves were:

Reasonable Assured Reserves recoverable at less than $US130/kgU (or $US50/lb U3O8) = 3.10 - 3.28 million tonnes.
Additional reserves recoverable at less than $US130/kgU (or $US50/lb U3O8) = 10.690 million tonnes.

As of the beginning of 2005 World Uranium reserves were:

Reasonable Assured Reserves recoverable at less than $US130/kgU (or $US50/lb U3O8) = 4.7 million tonnes.
Additional recoverable Uranium is estimated to be 35 million tonnes

The substantial increase (almost 50%) from 2003 shows the results of the world-wide renewed exploration effort spurred by the increase in Uranium prices which commenced in 2004. This increase in activity has continued through to 2006. Thus, the provable uranium resources amount to approximately 85 years supply at the current level of consumption with current technology, with another 500 years of additional reserves. It is worth noting that the numbers above do not reflect the considerable increase in Uranium exploration that has taken place in 2005 and 2006.
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby PraiseDoom » Mon 09 Jul 2007, 00:02:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mkwin', 'T')hus, the provable uranium resources amount to approximately 85 years supply at the current level of consumption with current technology, with another 500 years of additional reserves. It is worth noting that the numbers above do not reflect the considerable increase in Uranium exploration that has taken place in 2005 and 2006.


So you are saying in a few hundred years we shall have Peak Uranium!!!

Excellent post by the way. Its nice to have hopeful people posting rather than only us Doom and Gloomers....we are so pessimistic when left to ourselves.
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby mkwin » Mon 09 Jul 2007, 05:45:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PraiseDoom', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mkwin', 'T')hus, the provable uranium resources amount to approximately 85 years supply at the current level of consumption with current technology, with another 500 years of additional reserves. It is worth noting that the numbers above do not reflect the considerable increase in Uranium exploration that has taken place in 2005 and 2006.


So you are saying in a few hundred years we shall have Peak Uranium!!!

Excellent post by the way. Its nice to have hopeful people posting rather than only us Doom and Gloomers....we are so pessimistic when left to ourselves.


lol well it's nice to lift the mood somewhat.

Seriously, my post was written by a university physics department - so they aren’t my words. I don't know the first thing about Uranium supply or thorium fuel or breeder reactors etc.
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby PraiseDoom » Mon 09 Jul 2007, 19:56:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mkwin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PraiseDoom', '
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Excellent post by the way. Its nice to have hopeful people posting rather than only us Doom and Gloomers....we are so pessimistic when left to ourselves.


lol well it's nice to lift the mood somewhat.

Seriously, my post was written by a university physics department - so they aren’t my words. I don't know the first thing about Uranium supply or thorium fuel or breeder reactors etc.


Well, thats alot better expertise than you usually see on topics around here, where "experts" appear to be defined by post count. Myself, I figure most of us could acquire a PhD in Nuclear Physics in the same amount of time it takes to rack up thousands of posts, but then we'd know enough to not be Doomers, and I like being a Doomer, so I'll just stay ignorant and happy I guess. :lol:

Talking about nukes and uranium supply is a good thing as the world electrifies I think, assuming it can happen faster than the Gorge arrives of course. I would think rolling blackouts woould put a crimp in building nuke plants, but its nice to know we have plenty of fuel to build the new world order on ( by those of us who survive the Gorge of course ) when we want to.
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby Tanada » Sat 28 Jul 2007, 06:58:42

OMG Uranium prices have crashed! (down to $120.00/lbs) How can this be! Was the Uranium shortage nothing but Hype????

How will M_B_S be able to cope?
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby Cyrus » Sat 28 Jul 2007, 13:17:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'O')MG Uranium prices have crashed! (down to $120.00/lbs) How can this be! Was the Uranium shortage nothing but Hype????

How will M_B_S be able to cope?


Just a guess, but, maybe due to Japan's largest reactor being used under limited-utilization, some ammount of demand was destroyed?

Any articles about the price decline, Tanada?
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby Tanada » Sat 28 Jul 2007, 13:50:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cyrus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'O')MG Uranium prices have crashed! (down to $120.00/lbs) How can this be! Was the Uranium shortage nothing but Hype????

How will M_B_S be able to cope?


Just a guess, but, maybe due to Japan's largest reactor being used under limited-utilization, some ammount of demand was destroyed?

Any articles about the price decline, Tanada?


Here are some news links for you to peruse, these are from the company that determines the international average selling price because unlike Petroleum or Copper, Uranium does not have a distinct marketing set up with brokers and speculators and such.

Price chart 2007

Market Watch Report

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UXC reports', 'U')xC Market Watch for July 19, 2007
DOE Issues RFQ to Sell 200 MTU UF6
On July 18, the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) issued a solicitation for proposals related to the sale of up to 200 MTU of UF6 (containing about 520,000 pounds U3O8) in 8 separate lots: one of 100 MTU, two of 30 MTUs each, and 5 lots of 7.7 MTU (containing 20,000 pounds U3O8) each. Bid proposals are due August 17, 2007, with DOE expecting to award contracts by August 31. Payments are due by September 21, 2007, which means that they will fall within DOE’s current fiscal year that ends September 30, 2007.

DOE is selling this material in order to fund the clean-up of its remaining technetium-contaminated inventories. The sale of DOE inventory for this purpose was originally authorized by Section 314 of the FY 2006 Energy and Water Development Appropriations Act, which allowed DOE to barter, transfer or sell uranium in any form or assay to generate funds to pay for remediation of contaminated DOE uranium inventories. DOE’s authority to sell uranium to pay for remediation of contaminated uranium was continued into Fiscal Year 2007 by the 2007 Revised Continuing Appropriations Act. DOE uranium activities under this section are not bound by the limitations or requirements of the USEC Privatization Act, including the requirement for a Secretarial Determination.

DOE has made clear that it will determine how much uranium it will sell based upon the specific bids for each lot that it receives. The lot sizes were designed to give the DOE a better ability to match the revenues from the sales with the amount of money they need for the clean-up. The smaller lot sizes may also make the uranium more appealing to a wider range of buyers who could not afford larger lots due to the dollar amounts involved. Any monies collected above what is needed for contaminated inventory remediation will be returned to the U.S. Treasury.

DOE is offering the material in a market that is already subject to downward pressure, where supply availability outstrips near-term demand, especially when it comes to UF6. Auction-like offerings for UF6 and U3O8 were conducted last month where the sellers withdrew the material when bids apparently did not meet expectations. It is expected that material from these earlier offerings will be put on the market at later date when demand might be stronger. Another auction-like UF6 offering was made earlier this month; results of this offering are not known, but it appears that this offering received a lukewarm response as well.

Over the past ten years, when DOE has auctioned material, it has received prices that were at a premium to the then existing market prices. DOE may be hard pressed to repeat that performance this time because U3O8 prices have been under downward pressure and UF6 has been selling at a discount to component prices. Also, it appears that DOE needs to complete the transaction by the end of the fiscal year, so its sale is not necessarily discretionary like that of other sellers. In any case, DOE results this time will certainly be a barometer as to where the UF6 market is going.


Also note that this is the second decline in a month, three weeks ago was the first decline announced around the 4th of July IIRC.
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby Starvid » Mon 30 Jul 2007, 10:13:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cyrus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'O')MG Uranium prices have crashed! (down to $120.00/lbs) How can this be! Was the Uranium shortage nothing but Hype????

How will M_B_S be able to cope?


Just a guess, but, maybe due to Japan's largest reactor being used under limited-utilization, some ammount of demand was destroyed?

Any articles about the price decline, Tanada?

Kashiwasaki-Kariwa is, what, 3 % of global demand?
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby yesplease » Sun 12 Aug 2007, 19:57:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'H')ow will M_B_S be able to cope?
Not very well evidently. Hopefully it'll start bouncing up and down in small time intervals so they can post every couple weeks or so.
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby EnergyUnlimited » Mon 13 Aug 2007, 05:15:00

I do not observe M B S to be particularly active in this thread recently.
I wander why he had abandoned us...
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby rostov » Mon 13 Aug 2007, 08:34:21

U308 $110 for a week now. Volume in July + august nearly 0 compared to June
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby mkwin » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 08:23:03

Spot price just hit $90
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby Tanada » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 13:23:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mkwin', 'S')pot price just hit $90


Yup spotted at 321energy.com

How will MBS cope with this new development?
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby M_B_S » Tue 04 Sep 2007, 03:16:37

Hi Guys

Demand destruction is under way

Germany plans to shut down 7 (17) old reactors :!:

India is not able to fuel its reactors 50%....

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/214166.html

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=278538

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear/cl ... ure16.html

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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby mkwin » Tue 04 Sep 2007, 05:05:21

India is not able to fuel its reactors because there is a ban on exporting uranium to a country who have not signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. Australia will soon begin exporting uranium to India.

MBS, you are completely wrong on nuclear. While not as cost competitive as coal it is a long-term solution to some of our energy needs.
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby Tanada » Tue 04 Sep 2007, 06:37:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('M_B_S', 'H')i Guys

Demand destruction is under way

Germany plans to shut down 7 (17) old reactors :!:

India is not able to fuel its reactors 50%....

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/214166.html

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=278538

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear/cl ... ure16.html

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Now go back and actually read the links you posted. I know it is tough for you to beleive but almost all reactors closed or schedualed to close to date are small and old, not large and new.
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby Bas » Tue 04 Sep 2007, 07:17:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mkwin', 'S')pot price just hit $90


Yup spotted at 321energy.com

How will MBS cope with this new development?


:lol:


Always funny to see you two going at it on this thread....no disrespect :lol:
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Re: Uranium Supply

Postby miniTAX » Tue 04 Sep 2007, 13:47:43

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M_B_S, peak U, peak U !!!!!

Doh, my bad, was just peak U price :P
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Re: Testing alpha particles.

Postby Plantagenet » Wed 05 Sep 2007, 12:41:02

Uranium is common in coal. It is dispersed around homes and coal-fired power plants in fly ash, i.e. the particles that go up the chimney or smokestack when coal is burned.

It has been estimated that there is often more energy in the Uranium from coal that goes up the chimney then in the coal that was actually burned. That uranium drifts with the wind and covers areas around homes and power plants that burn coal.

Uranium in coal fly ash also undergoes alpha and beta decay, and produces wonderful fission tracks.

http://greenwood.cr.usgs.gov/energy/fac ... 63-97.html

There are large numbers of coal-fired power plants in the US, England, mainland Europe, China, etc.. These are dispersing Uranium in fly ash right now through the air to areas around the powerplants, and downwind from the powerplant. Uranium was dispersed right into city air from homes that burned coal, especially through the 19th and early 20th century, before coal was displaced by oil.

There is much much much much much much much more uranium in the environment from coal then from DU, and the uranium is found right in cities in the US and western Europe. Chances are there is uranium from coal right in your garden in your backyard. :shock:
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Re: Testing alpha particles.

Postby Plantagenet » Wed 05 Sep 2007, 12:59:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', ' ')uranium naturally eject alpha particle which cannot be measured by geiger counter because even air blocks it.



If air stops an alpha particle, how dangerous is alpha decay from uranium?

HINT: Don't eat uranium. :roll:
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