[Jack]

Interesting document. It hints at Peak, but skirts the issue.

I wonder what's being floated on the non-public documents - the ones we'll never see?

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd the other energy sources will be - what?

[BabyPeanut]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he International Energy Agency assesses that with substantial investment in new capacity, overall energy supplies will be sufficient to meet growing global demand.

[Tyler_JC]

Perhaps we should drill into the skull of some of these Congressmen and search for a brain...


(it's the closest thing I could find to a Congressman)

[Madpaddy]

The other main energy source will be lighting your own farts.

While sitting down you could have a special apparatus you could sit in and while you fart away contentedly you could be providing the power to run your tv set or some other low wattage appliance.

Precautions would have to be taken to avoid burning of the rectal area but hey folks we invented the digital watch - WE CAN DO ANYTHING

[eastbay]

The International Energy Agency assesses that with substantial investment in new capacity, overall energy supplies will be sufficient to meet growing global demand. Continued limited access of the international oil companies to major fields could restrain this investment, however, and many of the areas—the Caspian Sea, Venezuela, West Africa and South China Sea—that are being counted on to provide increased output involve substantial political or economic risk. Traditional suppliers in the Middle East are also increasingly unstable. Thus sharper demand-driven competition for resources, perhaps accompanied by a major disruption of oil supplies, is among the key uncertainties.

.... a major disruption of oil supplies my foot. A major disruption is happening right now and it's called 'running out'. It's impossible to avoid it. This report is a bunch of nonsense because it's based 100% on a supply of oil adequate to meet 100% of the worlds demand. And that supply isn't there. Without a full supply of oil (enough to meet future increaded demand) there's no way for modern industrial civilization to continue functioning in the manner we now know. But most of us here already know that.

This report is to make us feel-good. Nothing more.

EastBay

[0mar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd the other energy sources will be - what?

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'D')ogs are renewable, and burn nicely.

[No-Oil]

Well there have been numerous pointers to the CIA World Fact Book, but the interesting thing are under the World rather than individual countries.

Here are a couple of snippets;-

Natural resources:
The rapid depletion of nonrenewable mineral resources, the depletion of forest areas and wetlands, the extinction of animal and plant species, and the deterioration in air and water quality (especially in Eastern Europe, the former USSR, and China) pose serious long-term problems that governments and peoples are only beginning to address

Now there's an understatement !

Environment - current issues:
Large areas subject to overpopulation, industrial disasters, pollution (air, water, acid rain, toxic substances), loss of vegetation (overgrazing, deforestation, desertification), loss of wildlife, soil degradation, soil depletion, erosion

Ah progress, don't ya just love it !?

The whole deal can be viewed here;-
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/

Enjoy

[stu]

CIA's list of potentially unstable countries in 2005. What no Middle East countries?
link

Mexico? The way he's talking you'd think half of Latin America was going to descend into chaos.

[smiley]

And what about the USA?

[JayHMorrison]

I would say that the EU is far more unstable than the USA. The economic and demographic time bomb of the social welfare states of Europe is far more destabalizing than anything in the USA currently.

[lorenzo]

The US is a living timebomb, ready to explode at any time (see the LA riots).
Massive hidden unemployment, ghettos, millions of people without health care, education below world average, generalized crime, a totally artificial economy (every single American is in horrible personal debt), a housing bubble of gigantic proportions, a sh!tty dollar, mega deficit, etc... etc...

Europe is world leader in social cohesion, with the best education, social protection and health care on the planet, available to all citizens, with the cleanest and most secure environment on the planet (being jobless is in Europe means still having all these benefits - in the US, you end up like a dog in the streets). Europe is the world's strongest and best armed society on the planet when it comes to economic or social shocks. Its entire essence is based on social cohesion, while America's is entirely based on the opposite and is rapidly evolving towards a two track society.

America can explode any time now. (In fact, if OPEC decides to go €uro tomorrow, America is completely dead the day after).

[lorenzo]

Iraq will be potentially stable in 2005.

[lorenzo]

On a more serious note, though, let's not forget that these countries are only a threat because of the US's dirty politics of interference:

-Colombia: America is currently occupying it, with the intention of punching Venezuela in the back and launching a classic CIA terror campaign (like the one in Guatemala, Ecuador, Nicaragua, etc....) Nothing new here. Ordinary American state terrorism. The elections might indeed delay the CIA's terror campaign. It might just as well be an opportunity.
-Venezuela: the American fascist government can't stand that a man of the people used purely democratic means to help the poor and to get rid of nazi-capitalist exploitation; the hidden agenda of the American fascists is getting its terrorist hand on Venezuela's oil, of course. So nothing new here. Terror as usual.
Will the CIA attempt a new coup d'état against the democratically elected President Chavez? Of course they will. Nothing new here. Democracy is America's biggest enemy.
-Haiti: if America and the CIA loses its grip on the cocaine trade (because of newly elected leaders who want a piece of the pie), an important source of revenue will disappear; so the CIA might organize another civil war or an uprising if others interfere in its drug business. Nothing new here.
-Cuba: the Cuban-American fascists have been dreaming about re-colonizing Cuba forever now; but they're forgetting that Castro's genes are here to stay. Nothing new here.
-Mexico: the socialists are leading in the polls. Knowing that the US hates democracy, it may want to cause an ordinary civil war if the fascists lose the elections. Business as usual.

[JayHMorrison]

http://www.imagezilla.com/img.php?im=79 ... ialism.jpg

[GD]

For you JayH:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '�')�€¦the neoliberals who promote unregulated global capitalism tell us is that there is no conflict between the whims of the wealthy and the needs of the wretched. The Economist magazine, for example, argues that the more freedom you give the rich, the better off the poor will be. Without restraints the rich have a more powerful incentive to generate global growth, and this growth becomes "the rising tide that lifts all boats". Countries that intervene in the market with "punitive taxes, grandiose programmes of public spending, and all the other apparatus of applied economic justice" condemn their people to remain poor. A zeal for justice does "nothing but harm".

[jaakkeli]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JayHMorrison', 'I') would say that the EU is far more unstable than the USA. The economic and demographic time bomb of the social welfare states of Europe is far more destabalizing than anything in the USA currently.

[stu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JayHMorrison', 'I') would say that the EU is far more unstable than the USA. The economic and demographic time bomb of the social welfare states of Europe is far more destabalizing than anything in the USA currently.

[JayHMorrison]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', '
')Europe is world leader in social cohesion,